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What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 7:58 AM
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Strengths and weaknesses as a basketball coach? I'm not really sure, and since we have so many Clemson basketball experts on here telling us he's the one coach that we didn't want to leave, I figured this would be a good place to get a detailed analysis.
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He was a huge part of our sweet 16 run and he had
Apr 13, 2022, 8:07 AM
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Nothing to do with our struggles since then.
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Re: He was a huge part of our sweet 16 run and he had
Apr 13, 2022, 8:29 AM
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Lol 10-4. Probably a more rational explanation than anybody else will give.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 8:30 AM
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Some of the loudest voices concerning our basketball coaches have never actually set foot on campus so not sure how they know the level of detail them claim to be true. I suspect it all guff to support their goal which is a coaching change regardless of its impact on the program.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 11:05 AM
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Isn't that called fandom or fans? Don't we need fans on top of Alumni? Especially being a smaller school, pretty sure we need a strong brand!? How else can we cruit TX, Cali, Canada, along with rest of the world?
While I know it feels great to be part of Little Ole Clemson, but we need these non-alum fans to pay for and build our brand. They spend money on Tix, hotel, gas, Concessions, etc.
But I will concur that a lot of radical coot posts that happen, are most likely not affiliated with Clemson and just trolling. Some of the irrational posts are nee fans that think of Clemson as a 1-horse football team and never consider the students, education nor the actual idea of playing for a full schollie worth more than a million at end of life. They are the ones that want players to get paid and don't take into consideration of education along with food, housing, books, tutors, free entertainment and free healthcare.
That said..... Feel free to add.
Go Tigers!
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 8:33 AM
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Unless there is a former player that reads this site, your question is a waste of time.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 8:51 AM
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Strengths and weaknesses as a basketball coach? I'm not really sure, and since we have so many Clemson basketball experts on here telling us he's the one coach that we didn't want to leave, I figured this would be a good place to get a detailed analysis.
Thanks.
He was the top recruiter on staff pulling in consistent top 150 guys from GA and other areas. Also very good bigman coaching helping PJ, Sheff, Middlebrooks and Simms and Thomas Before.
Think White the Georgia coach putting a full court press on 4 star PG London Johnson who Dean was the main recruiter and thinks they can double up on the effort to get him signed.
Big loss.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:02 AM
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Why does "never having set foot on the campus" have to with it ? I think that is also an inaccurate statement. Many of the non alumni folks have experienced the Clemson way by attending things on campus.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:25 AM
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Why does "never having set foot on the campus" have to with it ? I think that is also an inaccurate statement. Many of the non alumni folks have experienced the Clemson way by attending things on campus.
The topic is how can a person who has never been to a game in LJ or set foot on campus know so much detail about the inner workings of our program? The thought is much of what he says is conjecture. He trashes our coach as a game to see if he can turn the fanbase against our staff ultimately resulting in the firing of CBB. He does all of this without concern with the impact to our program.
Being an alumni or not is a different discussion.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 11:02 AM
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:25 AM
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Why does "never having set foot on the campus" have to with it ? I think that is also an inaccurate statement. Many of the non alumni folks have experienced the Clemson way by attending things on campus.
The topic is how can a person who has never been to a game in LJ or set foot on campus know so much detail about the inner workings of our program? The thought is much of what he says is conjecture. He trashes our coach as a game to see if he can turn the fanbase against our staff ultimately resulting in the firing of CBB. He does all of this without concern with the impact to our program.
Being an alumni or not is a different discussion.
NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME THAT TROLL IS AN ACTUAL CLEMSON FAN.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Strengths and weaknesses as a basketball coach? I'm not really sure, and since we have so many Clemson basketball experts on here telling us he's the one coach that we didn't want to leave, I figured this would be a good place to get a detailed analysis.
Thanks. He was the top recruiter on staff pulling in consistent top 150 guys from GA and other areas. Also very good bigman coaching helping PJ, Sheff, Middlebrooks and Simms and Thomas Before. Think White the Georgia coach putting a full court press on 4 star PG London Johnson who Dean was the main recruiter and thinks they can double up on the effort to get him signed. Big loss.
Interesting. I heard from you that our team wasn't recruiting at the level that we needed to. You also mentioned multiple times during the season, that our coaching staff did not develop big men very well. You used examples such as ray sykes under Purnell, but completely dismissed guys like Landry noko or sidy djitte each of who had very similar career professions to Sykes. Also, Elijah Thomas went from 7.5 points a game as a non-starter, to a starter that averaged 10.7 points. That's not a huge improvement.
Elijah progressed a lot here and was a great player, but his development wasn't all in coach dean. He was already averaging 7.5 ppg at Clemson while not starting.
Also looking at recruiting, we have gotten 2 top 150 players from Georgia. Chase hunter, and he Godfrey. I'm not sure I would call that "consistently getting top 150 players out of Georgia.
You are a hack. You talked crap about Dawes and honor all year, and then when they transfer, you cry and say brownell is losing the team.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Yeah, getting top 75-100 guys they definitely need more. If Clemson wants to get to top 5 in the ACC consistently they will need better recruiting. But Dean was pulling in the best recruits the staff was getting for sure.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:02 AM
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Also, heard on radio that transfer commit JL's dad played basketball at Rhode Island with Dean so that's maybe how they got foot in door when they recruited him so can give Dean some credit on him as well.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:04 AM
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Lmao.
Narrative: Clemson doesn't recruit well enough to win consistently in the ACC.
Clemson coach leaves. NOOOOOOO HE IS SO GOOD AT RECRUITING!!! THIS IS HOING TO HURT US SO BADLY!!!
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:09 AM
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Nctigs during the season: Dawes and honor are way too inconsistent. Dawes is not very smart and makes boneheaded plays to often. Honor is not big enough or consistent enough to play in the acc.
They both transfer: NOOOOOO! WE ARE LOSING OUR MOST EXPERIENCED GUARDS. HOW WILL WE WIN NEXT YEAR??? BROWNELL IS LOSING THE TEAM.
NCTIGS on Clemson getting one of the top PGs in the portal: according to my ridiculously stupid calculations on transfers from smaller conferences, he will only average about 7 points a game.
Dude, give it a break and seek counseling. Everybody on here knows you are a hack. Just stop.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:30 AM
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Are you really this dense. Not everything in the world is binary (regardless how you feel about gender). Clemson can be bad at recruiting and still have a best recruiter. Being bad at recruiting overall could make it much more damaging to lose your “best” recruiter. Perhaps he’s only moderately better. But it also begs the question why are we losing our best recruiter immediately after our AD doubles down on keeping Brownell because he hasn’t received the institutional support he needs. It would appear that we’ve feel the first test of that new found support. Is our young AD not actually been given the same leve of authority as his predecessor? Does Neff see this as an opportunity to upgrade? Even if he does, wouldn’t it make more sense to dismiss and upgrade our worst recruiter and retain our best too? Did Brownell want him to go (like he actually wants every outbound transfer to leave)? These are not illegitimate questions (barring the obviously snarky parts). And, contrary to JK’s assertion elsewhere - the BOT, if it so desires, can approve a budget request in very little time. That was not an impediment and that shouldn’t be treated as a serious argument.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:38 AM
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Lmao.
Narrative: Clemson doesn't recruit well enough to win consistently in the ACC.
Clemson coach leaves. NOOOOOOO HE IS SO GOOD AT RECRUITING!!! THIS IS HOING TO HURT US SO BADLY!!!
So Clemson has no consistency problems? As long as they have winning seasons and get to the NCAAs twice every 5 years. Ok, status quoe is fine. Got it...
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:52 AM
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Clemson basketball has a lot of problems.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:03 AM
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Yeah, getting top 75-100 guys they definitely need more. If Clemson wants to get to top 5 in the ACC consistently they will need better recruiting. But Dean was pulling in the best recruits the staff was getting for sure.
I'm not saying I'm glad we lost him. I am saying that you told us all year that we didn't develop bigs good, and our recruiting was poor. You said he consistently snagged top 150 guys. He did not.
And then when I prove you wrong, you tell me
You aren't going to argue and just link a tweet from oglesby. What a joke.
Quit making this to be bigger than it is. You do that with everything negative about Clemson because you hate brownell and want us to perform poorly so he gets fired. That's what you want. You do not want Clemson to succeed under brownell.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:46 AM
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I never said Clemson has problems developing bigmen. The consistent guard play has been the issue. Clemson has generally had one really good player like PJ, Simms, Blossomgame and KJ, the only exception was the sweet sixteen season. Maybe next season is more of that with PJ, Tyson, Chase and LJ leading the charge. We will see...
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Strengths and weaknesses as a basketball coach? I'm not really sure, and since we have so many Clemson basketball experts on here telling us he's the one coach that we didn't want to leave, I figured this would be a good place to get a detailed analysis.
Thanks.
He was the top recruiter on staff pulling in consistent top 150 guys from GA and other areas. Also very good bigman coaching helping PJ, Sheff, Middlebrooks and Simms and Thomas Before.
Think White the Georgia coach putting a full court press on 4 star PG London Johnson who Dean was the main recruiter and thinks they can double up on the effort to get him signed.
Big loss.
Interesting. I heard from you that our team wasn't recruiting at the level that we needed to. You also mentioned multiple times during the season, that our coaching staff did not develop big men very well. You used examples such as ray sykes under Purnell, but completely dismissed guys like Landry noko or sidy djitte each of who had very similar career professions to Sykes. Also, Elijah Thomas went from 7.5 points a game as a non-starter, to a starter that averaged 10.7 points. That's not a huge improvement.
Elijah progressed a lot here and was a great player, but his development wasn't all in coach dean. He was already averaging 7.5 ppg at Clemson while not starting.
Also looking at recruiting, we have gotten 2 top 150 players from Georgia. Chase hunter, and he Godfrey. I'm not sure I would call that "consistently getting top 150 players out of Georgia.
You are a hack. You talked crap about Dawes and honor all year, and then when they transfer, you cry and say brownell is losing the team.
BE CAREFUL, HE GOT ME BANNED FOR A WEEK FOR CALLING OUT HIS NONSENSE.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:19 AM
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Can you provide a link to a post where anyone said “he’s the one coach that we didn’t want to leave.”? Until then I’ll assume this is another passive aggressive strawman argument targeted at a specific TNetter.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Clemson gal on the original thread
"This is the coach we didn't want to lose. Hate to see him leave."
Thanks, and come again.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 10:34 AM
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Thank you. However you did use the plural “experts”. Anyone else or did you start a brand new thread just to start a p*ssing match with clemgal? We don’t see eye to eye on everything but she’s as authentic a fan as you will find on this board. Seems like a weird flex to go after her. Seems like you could’ve simply responded to the post in question.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 2:07 PM
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Thank you. However you did use the plural “experts”. Anyone else or did you start a brand new thread just to start a p*ssing match with clemgal? We don’t see eye to eye on everything but she’s as authentic a fan as you will find on this board. Seems like a weird flex to go after her. Seems like you could’ve simply responded to the post in question.
Lmao. You tried to infer that I was making up a statement and you asked me who said it. I replied with the person's handle. And now you are angry that I'm bashing Clemson gal?
Grow up dude. You are such a drama queen.
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Re: What are Antonio Reynolds Dean's
Apr 13, 2022, 2:14 PM
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You still haven’t substantiate your plural claim of experts. I thought you were referencing NCTigs who hadn’t said this - just that incoming players might be affected so much. You usually try to play the middle of the road a little more and suddenly you’re hardcore Brad Brownell and trashing everyone who isn’t. My position is clear and easily substantiated - Brownell has had more than enough time and we should move on. I don’t bash players. I don’t know about the dating lives of out assistance coaches. How do you quantify needing to “grow up”. Just my different opinion? Because other you’re outposts me on this topic and being far nastier with other people about it. Clemgal doesn’t deserve your bs.
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Clemgalalways is a pretty big complainer when it comes to basketball.
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She is second only to nctigs in volume of complaints lately.
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Re: Clemgalalways is a pretty big complainer when it comes to basketball.
Apr 13, 2022, 2:17 PM
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Clemgalalways supports all Clemson sports in a way few others on here do (myself included). She never bashes players, that I’ve seen. And, even when we’ve disagreed, I’ve never seen her get ugly or personal. If you’re directing even an ounce of negative energy at her you have completely lost your way. Why don’t you start sh*t with lightbulbbill while you’re at it.
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