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The more you know.
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:40 AM
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3 more long years for you all.
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And Catahoula
Oct 26, 2025, 9:41 AM
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will still argue you guys aren't racist/bigots.
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Oh, you won't catch me arguing that about Manac***
Oct 26, 2025, 5:29 PM
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Ready to admit you were wrong about our friend
Oct 26, 2025, 6:08 PM
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from the other day?
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No, but I endorse your efforts to hijack Manac's thread***
Oct 26, 2025, 6:19 PM
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That right there is funny!
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:51 AM
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Sure it's partisan, biased, political BS. So freaking what? Lighten up people; the country won't implode if you lighten up and laugh.
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It's also flat out wrong, but don't let that stop a good feeling.***
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I only hate liars, and/or people who mislead.
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Oct 26, 2025, 10:58 AM
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Byproduct of being an investigator for 24 years. Seen it THOUSANDS of times.
But hey, I'm paid to sort out lies and liars, so I guess half my income would be gone if people were honest. I would think a person like Manac could appreciate this. I'm sure he's seen his fair share of liars in his profession, probably as many or more than I have. You'd think he'd be loath to become one, much less vote for one. I'm sorry, if my vote is between two liars (politics notwithstanding), the only honorable thing to do is not vote. And if my TV viewership choices are between which lies, or misinformation source I like the most, I'm turning off the TV.
The lack of liability laws that were ushered in to facilitate the monetization/profitability of the internet 25 years ago or so, plays a HUGE role in where we are today, as a nation.
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Re: List the descriptions in the picture that are/are not true. Thx.***
Oct 27, 2025, 1:52 PM
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The entire east wing was torn down, not just that little facade like originally reported. That's the false part.
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Can you point to where it's funny? Even in partisan meme terms, it's cringe***
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Orange Immortal [67936]
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Look, humor is very much an individual thing. I think it's funny.
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Oct 26, 2025, 9:53 PM
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If you don't that's fine, but you don't get to decide for anybody else. I understand why people who are in a constant state of rage over Trump or are looking for something to be offended by wouldn't think it's funny though. That just makes it funnier to me.
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No need to be catty. I was just wondering what you found funny in that image
Oct 27, 2025, 5:12 PM
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What's funny to me is when grown men act like children when asked a simple question.
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Sure. Here's what I found funny:
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Hunter losing his coke.
Clinton getting a beej from an intern and skeeting on her dress.
Biden inviting a ###### to show his #### to children.
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Smh......
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Oct 26, 2025, 10:24 AM
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Three more years of you posting BS from the ill-informed corner of the internet you inhabit. Got it.
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Re: Smh......
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The guy spent 4 years posting
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Oct 26, 2025, 10:54 AM
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4 paragraph post after post about how COVID was not manufactured. Give him a break. He is slow.
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I never said it was not manufactured. I consistently said there's
Oct 26, 2025, 12:11 PM
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a 50/50 chance it was from a lab leak or natural.
If you force me to guess, I'd wager it was a lab leak, of an imperfect virus, that was perfected by nature over 6-8 months before Wuhan exploded.
Believe it or not, there are still people studying covid (mainly in countries devoid of democrats and republicans). It will leave a legacy, and is currently.
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Re: I never said it was not manufactured. I consistently said there's
Oct 26, 2025, 12:22 PM
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The NIH sends people across the globe to shoot bats with blow darts, draw their blood, collect fecal matter, etc.., and return the samples to a lab to study for viruses, or antibodies that suggest prior infections.
I would imagine the CDC has all the same Viruses as the Wuhan lab, and many more we do not know about, nor would we want to leak out to the public. Unfortunately, the Trump administration has handicapped funding to these studies.
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Most covid studies published now are in other countries.
Oct 26, 2025, 8:02 PM
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The legacy remains to be seen, but generally many/most studies say there is lasting immune damage, that compounds. So whatever. AIDS started in San Francisco in 1976. No one knew a thing about it until 1981 or 1982. Some viruses that damage the immune system, can take years for the damage to be apparent and cause issues.
Like last winter. In SC. It was the worst influenza season in SC in over 25 years. At the peak, 2/3 as many people were hospitalized (last winter) from the flu in SC, as were hospitalized at the highest peak of covid in SC. Last winter I had RSV (never had it that I ever knew of, worst cough ever), THEN I had influenza a month or so later. THEN another month or two later, I got covid (again). This is from like October to February or March. My whole house got influenza (5/5), and that's never happened, with influenza. Wife was unvaxxed for flu, and she got it. Me and the biys were vaccinated, and we got it, mild thankfully. Wife was the sickest, she had a pretty high fever.
ANYWAY........is what it is. Public health is dead in the US.
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Public health is dead because your family got the flu? Jfc.***
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No it's dead because it's being run by a nutjob. Has nothing to do with me.***
Oct 27, 2025, 8:03 AM
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Re: No it's dead because it's being run by a nutjob. Has nothing to do with me.***
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Not only that, but we’re watching a man in clear cognitive decline. The East Wing ballroom project feels like a toy to keep him occupied while others quietly manage the real business of the presidency.
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Re: No it's dead because it's being run by a nutjob. Has nothing to do with me.***
Oct 27, 2025, 11:42 PM
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Te good news is that the original structure has been laser scanned. Perfectly restoring is not an impossible task. Once Trump's warranty has fully expired, I doubt we would get much pushback from the House to take this on.
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I know anything longer than two paragraphs...
Oct 26, 2025, 5:30 PM
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Is hard for you to read, but he never claimed that.
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You were the one crying on here the other day
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...because you don't like getting called out for spreading misinformation and degrading women.
Suck it up, buttercup. Learn how to be a respectable man, and quit complaining when people call you out for your bullsiht.
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Dang dude. You back on the MAGA train?***
Oct 26, 2025, 5:31 PM
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Unlike yours, my world is not comprised of two, and only two distinct
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parts, MAGA and non-MAGA.
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Normally I would say this faux intellectualism doesn't work
Oct 27, 2025, 7:28 AM
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but Catahoula® did spend 3 days defending your open and apparent racism in the other thread.
So maybe this does work sadly.
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Actually, I'm starting to regret a little bit that I did defend him
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Oct 27, 2025, 7:52 AM
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Not because I think you're right (you're not), but because he's being a complete jack ### in this thread.
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This exchange really just highlights an issue I've been trying to explain to you
Oct 27, 2025, 8:52 AM
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for months.
There isn't any difference in opinions between this thread and the other thread for Smiling Tiger. What you're seeing here is the true Smiling Tiger, and it was obvious that this was the true Smiling Tiger in the last thread. The only difference is Smiling Tiger used coded language in the last thread and is being open and obvious in this thread.
But you're probably wondering why it feels so different? Because you enabled him. When he used the coded language he got away with the obvious racism. He had the "liberals" on here defending him. He felt emboldened by that support and now he doesn't feel the need to hide the racism/bigotry in this thread.
At some point you have to accept that your attempts to appeal to both side isn't working. It's just strengthening the hate.
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I didn't enable anything. He's a grown ### man on a message board
Oct 27, 2025, 10:06 AM
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He'll post what he wants.
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But he actually won't
Oct 27, 2025, 10:22 AM
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social pressure is a real thing.
There is always a chance he's just completely oblivious to social norms, but the fact he tried to hide his racism indicates he is impacted by social pressure.
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Calling me a racist doesn't bother me one bit, for a couple of reasons.
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First, I know I'm not a racist. Second, you have no clue what racism is. Third, unlike you, there isn't a list of offensive words that I'm eagerly anticipating hearing so I can be triggered and go of on a self-righteous, condescending rant to signal to try to validate my own moral superiority.
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The tough guy act doesn't work on me
Oct 27, 2025, 10:43 AM
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which is precisely why I saw through your act in the last thread.
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This thread is ridiculous
Oct 27, 2025, 11:23 AM
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You're still falsely accusing him of being racist when he said nothing in that thread to indicate he was a racist. He only discussed other people he knew. So it's absurd you're still harping on this.
And then he's somehow saying it's okay for him to b!tch about things the Trump admin does because he thinks it's important but not okay for others to do the same on other topics.
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It's ok to admit that I'm right when I'm actually right
Oct 27, 2025, 11:32 AM
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that doesn't make you less of a person. It doesn't mean you have to like me any more.
But you owe it to yourself to not continue to try to defend someone who was staunchly racist in that thread.
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Well, dude, my world isn't that either.
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I don't get how you have so many great threads and discussions, and then suddenly you'll have a rare moment where you're just "#### #### sh!t!" outta nowhere and lash out for no reason.
Manac is an amoral POS troll. If he's your personal friend, my apologies, but that's what he is. Tiggity posts really intelligent stuff and discussion. Your response to him was absurd and out of character. He's on your side in this mess. Manac will celebrate whatever hardship befalls you during this admin.
The White House issue is a valid one, and maybe one of the most important: Trump is sending a clear message that he can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. Making changes to the White House--the people's house--takes a process. A person cannot just fund his own major renovations to the White House with complete disregard for the people and the law, and do so to the tune of a 1/3 of it being destroyed.
Trump said to all of us with this, "#### you. I do what I want." Which is EXACTLY what you've been speaking out against for months, yet suddenly... crying child gif? That's the best you got?
I just got done defending you for 09's idiocy and false accusations against you, and the best you can do is "Derp derp Unlike yours, my world is not comprised of two, and only two distinct parts, MAGA and non-MAGA."
Go outside and touch some grass.
You sh@t the bed in this thread.
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It's called "differences of opinions".
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You honestly believing that your opinions are intellectually, morally superior and correct, and therefore those of others are inferior, amoral, and wrong, is downright hillaious. Sure, we disagree; not only is that normal, it's okay. We just don't have to judge and be enraged at each other because of it.
Einstein vs. Newton
Jefferson vs. Adams
Plato vs. Aristotle
Not a clown in the bunch. If a messsage board victory is that important to you, you can have it. You and 09 are morally and intellectually superior in every way. I'll just look to you two for guidance from now on.
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I don't have a problem with differences of opinion.
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You honestly believing that your opinions are intellectually, morally superior and correct, and therefore those of others are inferior, amoral, and wrong, is downright hillaious.
You're playing Classof09 games with false assumptions and claims.
There are distinct cases when my opinion is more intellectually, morally superior and correct than the other garbage here. Examples:
-I think it's abhorrent to cheer on Asheville's destruction for politics.
-I think a person who takes joy in the pain and horror ICE is inflicting on innocent people is a bad person.
-I don't think we should start unprovoked wars.
You get the drift?
If a messsage board victory is that important to you, you can have it. You and 09 are morally and intellectually superior in every way. I'll just look to you two for guidance from now on.
Now that's another pathetic response given the defense of you I levied on 09. I'm not looking for victory. Let's break down what you did:
You have complained numerous times about the atrocities committed by the Trump admin. You think they're worth addressing. But now, when someone else (Tiggity) takes issue with another issue, you mock him.
You have in effect said that YOU get to decide which Trump issues are worth complaining about and which ones are worth mockery.
So I guess who is acting intellectually and morally superior now?
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My first post in this thread was in response to a JOKE which I thought
Oct 27, 2025, 12:49 PM
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(and still do think) was funny. WHOA! That was my crime. Tiggity, who was not part of the conversation at this point, joined in order to criticize me for thinking it was funny.
I think it's abhorrent to cheer on Asheville's destruction for politics.
-I think a person who takes joy in the pain and horror ICE is inflicting on innocent people is a bad person.
-I don't think we should start unprovoked wars.
Me too. Me thinking Manac's joke is funny has nothing to do with those things, or support for Trump in any way. Just like I thought the South Park episode that cricified Trump was hilarious, and people who got alll riled up about it were being ridiculous, I think Manac's joke is funny. Sorry I don't run every single thing through the political morality filter before I decide how to act or feel.
You have in effect said that YOU get to decide which Trump issues are worth complaining about and which ones are worth mockery.
I decide for myself, just as you and everybody else does. But here, my complaint has nothing to do with where Tiggity stands on Trump issues; it's about his problem with me laughing at something because it pushed his political hot button.
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I get that...
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Which is why I didn't reply to that post. I don't see an issue if you find humor in the meme. Manac is too much of a doofus to get me to laugh at his posts, but if you liked it, cool.
I decide for myself, just as you and everybody else does. But here, my complaint has nothing to do with where Tiggity stands on Trump issues; it's about his problem with me laughing at something because it pushed his political hot button.
Okay, but both responses to him were extra. You find it funny. He doesn't. Seems that wraps up the discussion.
Something seems to have gotten you irked in this thread (thus targeting me as well); sorry for whatever that is.
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Re: I get that...
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His ASPD aside, he's also dumber than a bag of Dildos. I find it adorable when he attempst to match wits with 19b and yourself. It is comedy gold.
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To hear that coming from an objective, level-headed, non-partisan poster
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whould really carry some weight .... but since it's you I can chuckle and move on.
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Re: To hear that coming from an objective, level-headed, non-partisan poster
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Whatever is going on in your life, I wish the best for you. Being sincere here, this is not you.
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Seems pretty obvious that Trump has empowered him
Oct 28, 2025, 10:34 PM
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to blow his cover.
This is the real him.
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Your analogy fails for the very important reason
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that Newton would have agreed with Einstein is Newton was lucky enough to still be alive in in 1915.
Newton's theory missed an important nuance because humans hadn't possessed the ability to actually measure the speed of light yet. Einstein was able to improve Newton's theory because of that improvement in understanding.
You and I don't disagree. You're just wrong.
You're trying to say that the speed of light isn't ≈ 299,792 km/s in vacuum. I don't have to disagree with you. I can tell you that you're wrong.
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I'm still a registered republican. Still have never voted for a democrat.
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So whatever. I know BS when I see it. Also know a cult of personality when I see one too.
Our problems are not political, they're human nature. The wise men who framed our governemnt and wrote our constitution did it with the express purpose of not supporting one faction or another, but with an eye squarely towards human nature. Our Constitution was a human nature document, not a political one. The problems they feared most were NOT political. A free nation can flourish and thrive with differing politics, or "factions" as they called them. It will never thrive, and will fail, if human nature becomes a problem.
The weakness in the document was not in the checks and balances they codified, but in the checks and balances they never saw coming, or a need for. They held the legislative branch in a higher regard than the other two branches, which traditionally are more prone to human nature problems, hence Congress had less checks and balances. They assumed the President's veto pen would suffice. They also thought the judicial branch could nullify laws that were unconstitutional. They never conceived of a democratic legislative body that would take on debt, print money, take on more debt, and more debt, and print more and more money and become an entrenched, perpetual, pandering and vote-buying machine. They assumed the people would be wise and prudent. But the votes of even the most wise, and prudent can all be bought with dollars. Money corrupts. Unlimited money breeds unlimited corruption. Who in the world would vote for someone who promises LESS? We always vote for more. And in this, they actually erred in their assumptions on human nature. A little too much Rousseau, and not enough Hobbes.
Two biggest errors? Congressional terms should have been limited, and/or Article V should have been made far more clear to prevent a corrupted court from neutering it. Truth flourishes in well-run nations. Truth is attacked in poorly run nations. We now have a man, and a party corrupted, running a country. Corruptly. If we had a party running this country those Reagan clips I showed, or even go back to JFK, there has been good leadership and bad from both parties. We've never had a single person, though, corrupt a party like Trump has. That's the difference IMHO. He's not conservative. he is devoid of any ideological backbone. He doesn't read FFS. he hasn't read. I'm talking way over his head. But he knows what people want to hear, and he's excellent at spotting weakness and opportunity, and as such he will say whatever is necessary to pander to whomever necessary to enrich himself.
MAGA is a movement, Trump is a person who created a movement. It's classic cult of personality from any history book, but Trump hasn't read a book cover to cover in his life. I'm in the Ronald Reagan camp, so call me whatever you like. I see a world of liberals, conservatives, Hispanics, workers, executives, straight, gay, ignorant, educated, hungry, fat, I see the whole thing. Maga is just a person, leading just another movement. You think the German people were Nazis? You think the German people wanted to start WW2? You think the German people wanted concentrations camps and genocide of the Jews? You think the Russians wanted Stalin? You think they wanted his purges that killed millions of Russians? You think Americans wanted masked, unidentified men snatching illegals off the streets without due process? Or troops invading cities? Or wanted the East Wing demolished for a gaudy ballroom? Do you think the American people want tariffs on the whole world that ONLY AMERICANS PAY? Or whatever else will come up down the road? Human nature, you can't escape it, and it takes wisdom to see through it. Human nature dictates that all Germans were Nazis and supported WW2, and genocide. Human nature dictates that Russians are all communists, and support communism and the litany of communist tyrants who have led them. Human nature assumes that all Muslims are terrorists, and want to kill all Christians. Human nature....is flawed. Why do you think the Holy Bible has survived for almost 2,000 years? Because it checks human nature, and if you do that, you prosper. Everyone does.
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Good post, Tigg. I agree.
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I'm in the Ronald Reagan camp, so call me whatever you like. I see a world of liberals, conservatives, Hispanics, workers, executives, straight, gay, ignorant, educated, hungry, fat, I see the whole thing.
Me too. Not a registered Pub though.
I would just add, human nature assumes that all Trump supporters are ignorant racist Nazis.
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It doesn't
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I would just add, human nature assumes that all Trump supporters are ignorant racist Nazis.
No, it doesn't. All ignorant racist Nazis in America support Trump, but not all Trump supporters are that. However, all current Trump supporters have made it clear they're okay tolerating that group to get whatever it is they want.
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These guys really miss the analogy
Oct 28, 2025, 7:43 AM
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it's that all these guys would support Hitler if we were in 1930s Germany.
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Who are "these guys"?***
Oct 28, 2025, 7:44 AM
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Smiling Tiger and everyone else who walked in that voting booth
Oct 28, 2025, 8:01 AM
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and voted for Trump
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No...
Oct 28, 2025, 8:12 AM
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Not if they voted for Trump in the first term and then turned on him, which is what they did.
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Haha. Youre really lying to yourself
Oct 28, 2025, 8:33 AM
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If you think Smiling Tiger didn’t gladly vote for Trump in 2020 and 2024.
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Nobody here has a reason to lie about their votes
Oct 28, 2025, 8:38 AM
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It's an anonymous message board (at least when the loser nutjobs aren't trying to dox people).
I can't remember how he said he voted in 2020, but I know he said he didn't vote Trump in 2024. He has no reason to lie about that.
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Of course he has a reason to lie
Oct 28, 2025, 8:44 AM
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Because he’s cognizant enough to know it’s wrong.
That’s why he uses the coded language.
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Coded language?***
Oct 28, 2025, 8:57 AM
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Hes tricked you into thinking hes a decent person
Oct 28, 2025, 9:52 AM
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That’s what he gets out of it.
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He hasn't tricked me into anything...
Oct 28, 2025, 10:02 AM
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And even if that was a motive, that makes no sense. I see no reason for him to lie; if anything, it takes a man to admit he made a mistake in his support of Trump and he should be lauded for it.
You pursue these weird white whales. You have this obsession with making people out into something they aren't and demanding everyone agree with you about it. This is not a healthy way to live. Let it go.
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Dude youre literally defending someone
Oct 28, 2025, 10:10 AM
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That argued every country in the world would be afraid to lose their culture because of immigrants. Someone that argued it’s funny to call a transgender person a homphobic slur.
That’s no way to go through life.
I may have jumped the gun on CharlestonTiger15® but Smiling Tiger and Flow have both proven me right.
You’re going to get one wrong from time to time but there is no benefit to letting all the others lie to you.
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Re: Dude youre literally defending someone
Oct 28, 2025, 10:22 AM
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That argued every country in the world would be afraid to lose their culture because of immigrants.
I bet he has no historical examples throughout history to support this opinion.
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Tell me why you think that statement is wrong.***
Oct 28, 2025, 11:05 AM
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Why dont you tell me why you think its not bigoted?***
Oct 28, 2025, 11:08 AM
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Is it bigoted that those nations would feel that way?
Oct 28, 2025, 11:11 AM
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Yes. Is it bigoted to point out this has happened throughout history and this is how nations feel? No.
Am I bigoted to point out that the people in Palestine didn't like it when Israel was created? Am I bigoted to point out the Native Americans didn't like it? Am I bigoted to point out the aborigines didn't like it?
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Yes, if youre arguing that its ok to be bigoted
Oct 28, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Because other countries in the past have practiced exclusionary practices, that’s bigoted.
Now can you man up and admit you were wrong?
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Then show me the quote where he says that's okay
Oct 28, 2025, 11:17 AM
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Because I can show you the one where he says he isn't defending it.
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Are you honestly arguing
Oct 28, 2025, 11:26 AM
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That the quote he himself made arguing almost every country would feel this way isn’t something he believes?
You’re saying he just argues things he doesn’t believe? Well maybe but that would prove my point he’s just lying to you.
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Uh... yeah.
Oct 28, 2025, 11:37 AM
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He was pointing out something that's been true throughout history, which you haven't denied or countered.
How does pointing out a historical fact make someone bigoted?
Do I believe in the #### the Nazis did because I point out what they did?
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I mean if you argued that what ICE is doing is ok
Oct 28, 2025, 11:40 AM
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Because the Nazis did it.
I don’t think there is any question that would be bigoted?
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But he didn't argue it was okay.
Oct 28, 2025, 11:49 AM
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He just stated that's how they would feel. And he's right. History said it is.
How many times do I have to point out that he said he wasn't defending that viewpoint?
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So youre saying he was arguing his friends
Oct 28, 2025, 11:56 AM
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and family were wrong to feel this way?
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Let's break down the post that set you off
Oct 28, 2025, 12:04 PM
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Any bold sections are added by me:
They have swallowed the load and think Trump is the greatest president since Washington. Yes - they fear that America is changing in a way that they don't like. Sometimes, that fear and anger does indeed get wrongly directed at the people they associate with that change, which often happens to be people of different nationalities and religions who look and talk differently. I am not arguing otherwise, or defending it. All I am saying is that none of them hates anyone just because of their nationality, ethnicity, or skin color.
I understand where you guys are coming from, and I understand the slippery slope of racism and bigotry. I just believe that making broad, sweeping assumptions and judgements about people is misguided and misunderstands the problem.
Please tell me EXACTLY where in that quote he defended this view or where he stated he believed he felt that way.
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Is that the only quote of the exchange?
Oct 28, 2025, 12:24 PM
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Later on in the thread I explained how their line of thinking was bigoted.
This is how he responded:
I don't agree.
There is a distinct difference between wanting to preserve and maintain ones cultural heritage and influence, including customs, values, and all that goes with it ... and hating all people who are different, just because they are different.
How can this statement be taken in any other way than he believes that wanting to maintain your culture at the expense of immigration isn’t bigoted?
He then went on to discuss the quote you’re trying to deny that confirms his position is that it’s ok to be afraid of immigrants of other cultures coming into your communities.
Catahoula, you’re not this dumb. Quit acting dumb.
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Show me the quote I'm trying to deny so that I can aptly judge it.
Oct 28, 2025, 12:50 PM
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As for this:
There is a distinct difference between wanting to preserve and maintain ones cultural heritage and influence, including customs, values, and all that goes with it ... and hating all people who are different, just because they are different.
Nowhere does he state that he believes any of this with his own personal ideology. He's only explaining the difference.
You still have failed to prove he's a bigot. Don't be dumb. Prove it.
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Ive proven my case
Oct 28, 2025, 1:02 PM
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You just keep avoiding the evidence.
You literally cut off the part where he said “I don’t agree” then proceeded to give his opinion that you just posted.
He’s explaining what he believes…
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The fact that...
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:04 PM
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You continue to dodge requests to provide evidence shows that you know your case has no merit. The discussion is done. I win. You lose.
Go ahead and have the pointless last word.
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^ The Winner!
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Oct 28, 2025, 1:13 PM
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No doubt about it.
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I really wish I knew whether you honestly
Oct 28, 2025, 1:17 PM
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Believe this.
Because you’re so obviously wrong I just can’t imagine that you’re this dumb to believe it.
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When I state the facts, and express my honest opinions, he simply calls
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me a liar if it doesn't fit his predetermined, small-minded narrative. Somebody like that isn't interested in a conversation, a debate, or even an argument. He's just screaming, hurling accusations, and having a hissy fit.
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Re: When I state the facts, and express my honest opinions, he simply calls
Oct 28, 2025, 2:34 PM
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Just to show how absurd this argument
09: that opinion is racist
ST: I don’t agree it’s racist. Here is why
CAT: See how can you say he doesn’t believe it’s racist!
It’s honestly wild.
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Show me where I posted a racist opinion.
Oct 28, 2025, 6:34 PM
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Believing that certain ideas, and the customs and traditions that support them are better than others, and wanting to preserve them is not racist. That's not hate, it's preference. It's not evil, it's normal and has been present in every culture throughout history. What we have to realize is there's plenty of room for all of them in this big old world, and that requires respect and cooperation. When done properly, there is no room for hate, discrimination, or oppression based on those differences alone.
Unfortunately, a lot of people do take that, become isolated, defensive, fearful, and angry. There's an important distinction between respect for cultural differences and defiant tribalism.
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"wanting to preserve them is not racist"
Oct 28, 2025, 7:09 PM
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when you're wanting to preserve your culture by excluding immigrants of other cultures, that's by definition racist.
I get it that Catahoula falls for this coded language, but it doesn't work on anyone who thinks critically.
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Just to clear things up for you, I voted for Trump in 2016.
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Never again. I disagree strongly with much of what he says and does, and don't support him as a political entity in any way. That's only important though, to the extent the truth is important, so I expect you will stay in denial. If you would expand beyond your bubble just a bit, open up your closed mind and need to judge everyone so you can pretend to be superior, you would understand that everybody who doesn't agree with you is not evil or stupid. You simply can't wrap your head around the fact that some people who don't support or agree with Trump, don't stay lathered up in a deranged rage 24/7 at Trump or his supporters like you do. Trust me, it can be done, and life is much better that way.
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This arguing style might work on Catahoula (it appears it does)
Oct 28, 2025, 9:36 AM
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but this doesn’t work on people with critical thinking skills.
You’re accusing others of being miserable and thinking they’re superiors. But you’re over here trying to claim you’re better than others because the “liberals are the real closed minded.”
You posted that calling a person a homophobic slur is funny. People who are actually happy in life don’t think stuff like that is funny. And the people who are upset enough to think that is funny are definitely the people voting for Trump.
At the end of the day we both know you’re lying about who you voted for in 2020 and 2024. Another poster already outed you for defending January 6. A person who didn’t vote for Trump isn’t defending that.
Sitting here lying about your actions is all that we need to know that you are unhappy in life. That is probably what burns you the most is that you’re the one that has a miserable life and you take it out on others to feel better about your place in life.
Those of us who have been successful in life don’t need to bring others down to be content.
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Critical thinking skills? You're just a troll
Oct 28, 2025, 9:46 AM
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You can't even provide a quote from a person when challenged to do so when you make a false claim about them.
Critical thinking involves having evidence to back up your claims. You are never able to provide it.
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Its wild you keep bringing up this quote argument
Oct 28, 2025, 9:58 AM
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Then every time we get to the point you have to admit that people imply things with their words, you go silent.
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You accused him of making a statement he didn't make.
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You took his comments about how some people may feel and misattributed it to him feeling that way, which he never said. He even said that he didn't defend their views.
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This isn't about an "arguing style", it's not even about an argument . . .
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it's about your cognitive shortcomings, your fragile ego, and your total disconnect from reality.
Yes, in this context, on a political message board, "######' is funny. People who don't like that or understand that are simply looking for reasons to be offended and virtue signal. Those are miserable people. How many of the people complaining about it as a homophobic slur have used "ghey" as a humorous refernce when posting on here? A Lot! Nobody EVER complains about that, because that's not the issue. The issue here, 100% is that it's a joke directed at one political "side", and people on that side can't stand it. Being offended is 100% a choice. #### the self-righteous, virtue signaling speech police.
Once again you are totally full of ####: "At the end of the day we both know you’re lying about who you voted for in 2020 and 2024. Another poster already outed you for defending January 6. A person who didn’t vote for Trump isn’t defending that."
Please provide proof or shut your ignorant mouth.
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Trust me its obvious you think the truth sucks.***
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Here are some truths relevant to this thread . . .
Oct 28, 2025, 9:46 AM
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I voted for Trump in 2016. I have not voted for him since, and have not supported him since. I disagree with too many things he says and does. I have been totally open and vocal about that on here. Try to keep up. That much is a matter of verifiable historical record - it's objective truth that is not up for debate.
Good, honest, intelligent people are often wrong. Just like you're wrong here  . That's not in any way an excuse - it's just a reality we all should accept.
People who disagree with you, even people who support Trump, do not have to be your enemies.
Laughing and seeing the humor in the original post in this thread is in no way a measure of character or intelligence. It's a joke. It's political. Have you seen the South Park episode lampooning Trump? It's absolutely brutal! And hilarious!
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What gets difficult in discussing these matters
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Is explaining to the knuckledraggers that in order for stuff like this to go down in DC, it takes a process. The reason it takes a process is so that some imbecile can't just wreck a building or make it hideous without proper government approval.
These processes are in place to keep an individual with power from going off the rails. Which is precisely what Trump is trying to do, and that's the whole issue of the presidency. He thinks he can swing a wrecking ball around to anything he wants and no one is allowed to stop him.
The demolition of the White House is about as metaphorical as it comes to this presidency.
People who don't understand our government don't get this and don't care. They cheer it on like Manac, because he wants a dictatorship and adores anything Trump does. You can't expect a kid like that to have paid attention in his civics class. Or they don't understand it because they're having an episode and post a crying child gif.
The lack of education about how our government works has hit peak crisis at this moment, and I think it's going to cost us dearly.
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I will be so happy, if and when our country moves past the Trump era.***
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In which corner are the Epstein files?
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Also show us where Trump was sitting silent for 187 minutes while his Lynch mob tried to murder the VP on Jan 6th. That point of interest WILL actually make the history books once MAGA is no longer here to whitewash it.
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Re: In which corner are the Epstein files?
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He was never silent during the attack on the capital. He was either giggling or yelling for another diet coke the entire time.
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Really sound logic on display here.
Oct 26, 2025, 12:09 PM
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FYI, the entire east wing was taken down. But you just pull the pin out of grenade and hide, I doubt you will a single response.'
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Orange Phenom [14427]
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Now show me
Oct 26, 2025, 6:12 PM
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What JFK did and where. Preferably with pigs of Marilyn
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Solid Orange [1343]
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Re: Now show me
Oct 26, 2025, 10:47 PM
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And where Trump does (whatever he is still capable of) with Laura Loomer after their discussions about how HItler wasn't all bad.
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Paw Warrior [4970]
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This is false. Biden never once invited The Don to show his
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#### to children. Just a flat out fabrication that never happened.
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TigerNet HOFer [124224]
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Re: This is false. Biden never once invited The Don to show his
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Campus Hero [13678]
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Re: The more you know.
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NEVER FORGET
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