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Economic issues are getting worse
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Economic issues are getting worse


Nov 15, 2025, 3:48 PM
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1 in 4 households are paycheck to paycheck, 900k homes are underwater on mortgage, car loans are defaulting. Inflation is still rising contrary to government stats, those pesky food prices that are not counted do show up in real life. I doubt the Fed gets it down to preferred 2%. Do not even want to look at credit card debt.

This does not end well sitting on $38T in debt.

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Those are things youve been told or things you see?***


Nov 15, 2025, 3:57 PM
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Re: Those are things youve been told or things you see?***

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:06 PM
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All data is there to see, if you choose to deny it that is your prerogative. I see folks that are #### deep in debt, be it credit card/ mortgage/ car loans. I see the same patterns in lending from 2008.

House and car prices are just plain silly. I see prices rising in the grocery store with my own eyes.

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Every store and restaurant is packed here today. Youd think they would be empty

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:12 PM
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based on your data.

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:28 PM
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Maybe, credit cards are great till they ain’t.

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Re: Every store and restaurant is packed here today. Youd think they would be empty

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:31 PM [ in reply to Every store and restaurant is packed here today. Youd think they would be empty ]
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As of the third quarter of 2025, U.S. credit card debt stands at approximately $1.233 trillion, a 1.99% increase from the previous quarter and 5.75% higher than one year ago. Credit card balances have been rising steadily since 2021 and are at their highest level since 1999, with around 46% of cardholders carrying a balance. Common reasons for this debt include emergency expenses and day-to-day costs, and many consumers report delaying financial milestones due to their debt.

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Once again thats on the individual.***


Nov 16, 2025, 10:31 AM
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Re: Once again thats on the individual.***

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Nov 16, 2025, 10:34 AM
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And once again that is a lot of individuals that certainly make up the economy, it really is not that hard to understand.

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Re: Once again thats on the individual.***


Nov 16, 2025, 10:37 AM [ in reply to Once again thats on the individual.*** ]
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Also you need to understand that while you may not be in that situation , I certainly am not, a lot of folks are in bad shape financially. Some certainly self inflicted.

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Well, my grandma smoked from age 5 to 105


Nov 15, 2025, 5:56 PM [ in reply to Every store and restaurant is packed here today. Youd think they would be empty ]
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so I don’t trust your data.

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Re: Well, my grandma smoked from age 5 to 105

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Nov 15, 2025, 9:19 PM
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Sounds like you are just as dumb as grandma

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Re: Those are things youve been told or things you see?***


Nov 15, 2025, 4:08 PM [ in reply to Those are things youve been told or things you see?*** ]
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Things I’ve seen for the past decade

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:08 PM
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We’ve spent 21 Trillion dollars since 1991 being the world’s policeman. Destabilizing the Middle East, who wasn’t a threat to us, on behalf of Israel. Meanwhile China, India, and Russia were keeping their money home instead of funding Israel.
We just sent more money to Israel and 40 billion to Argentina. This is why life sucks for the middle class and it’s getting worse.

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Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?***


Nov 15, 2025, 4:11 PM
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Re: Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?***


Nov 15, 2025, 4:14 PM
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https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

Israel has long been the largest recipient of U.S foreign aid. We’ve sent them hundreds of billions directly. Why did we bomb Iran? Why dude we destabilize Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya?
One answer. Israel

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Re: Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?***


Nov 15, 2025, 4:17 PM
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Nope, nope and nope. That is an 0 for 3.

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Re: Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?***


Nov 15, 2025, 5:32 PM
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What are you talking about, Nope? 0 for 3 on what?

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Re: Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?***


Nov 16, 2025, 5:37 AM
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You listed Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan right? How many is that? 3 right? You claim we destabilized them for Israel right? Well you are wrong on all 3. So 0 for 3.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:46 PM
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I’m right on all of them please prove how I’m wrong. Include Sudan, Somalia, and Lebanon in that as well

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That's a whole lot less than $21trillion

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Nov 15, 2025, 4:20 PM [ in reply to Re: Are these made up numbers why you became a white nationalist?*** ]
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You claimed, or parroted a claim from some antisemitic website, that all our actions in the middle east were for Israel's benefit. You probably also think George Soros is behind it.

You're just an antisemitic sack o chit

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Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion


Nov 15, 2025, 5:32 PM
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I said we have spent 21 trillion on wars since 1991. Not in direct aid to Israel you ######. This article shows a study that we spent 8 Trillion just on the post 9/11 wars alone. Not to mention the Gulf War and every other military operation in the Middle East from 1990 until 9/11. Go look at Wikipedia it has a great breakdown of every single military operation during the 90’s.
Not every single dollar we’ve spent on military operations is because of Israel but the majority is.

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This is what you said antisemite


Nov 15, 2025, 5:39 PM
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It's pretty black and white that you think Israel is orchestrating it all.

"We’ve spent 21 Trillion dollars since 1991 being the world’s policeman. Destabilizing the Middle East, who wasn’t a threat to us, on behalf of Israel."

Sack o chit

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Re: This is what you said antisemite

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Nov 15, 2025, 5:51 PM
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This is what crybabies like you and Ben Shapiro do. Jump straight to the anti semite attack any time someone is critical of Israel. Why in the hell is Israel the largest recipient of our aid? They are the size of New Jersey, have no natural resources and are in constant conflict.
We’ve sent them almost 20 billion since 2023 so they can slaughter Palestinian citizens.

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Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion


Nov 15, 2025, 5:45 PM [ in reply to Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion ]
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https://govfacts.org/government/budget-appropriations/federal-spending/estimating-the-true-cost-of-americas-post-9-11-wars/

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Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion


Nov 16, 2025, 6:51 AM [ in reply to Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion ]
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Israel had nothing to do with us going to Iraq, Libya, nor Aghanistan.

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Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion


Nov 16, 2025, 8:47 PM
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Yes they did. Why did we do a regime change in Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan? I’d love to hear it.

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Re: That's a whole lot less than $21trillion

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Nov 15, 2025, 5:45 PM [ in reply to That's a whole lot less than $21trillion ]
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Being anti-foreign aid to Israel isn’t antisemitic you little crybaby

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You are the one who stated that you are a white nationalist; not me


Nov 15, 2025, 7:24 PM
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Do you even know what that means

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Re: You are the one who stated that you are a white nationalist; not me


Nov 15, 2025, 7:53 PM
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I said I’m a nationalist and I’m a white person. The definition of nationalist is A nationalist is someone who strongly identifies with their nation and believes it should be politically independent, culturally preserved, and prioritized over outside influences.
What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with being white?

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You specificallyreferred yourself as a far right nationalist which is a racist


Nov 15, 2025, 8:00 PM
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Far-right nationalism is a far-right ideology characterized by an extreme, often exclusionary form of nationalism that prioritizes the interests of a specific "native" group, believing it should be dominant or the only group within the nation. This ideology frequently combines nativism, xenophobia, and authoritarianism, with some extreme forms incorporating elements like racism, antisemitism, and a rejection of democratic norms or even violence. While some groups operate within the democratic system, others, such as neo-Nazis, seek to subvert it.

P.S. Nationalism is not the same as patriotism you and our dear leader don’t seem to understand that

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Re: You specificallyreferred yourself as a far right nationalist which is a racist


Nov 15, 2025, 8:37 PM
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Calling Donald Trump a nationalist is laughable. Yep, I do think America should be a majority white and Christian/ God believing country. It has been since it was founded. I don’t think white people should be the only ones here. The Declaration of Independence spoke of a higher power and god given rights.
Importing tens of millions of people from 3rd world countries is antithetical to American prosperity.
The white population has been decreasing rapidly, a simple google search would show you that from 2010 to 2020 the white only population dropped from 72% to 61%. The black population also declined from 13% to 12.4%. Keep in mind the 2020 census was before the largest illegal immigration crisis in U.S. history during Biden’s presidency. From 2010 to 2020 the Hispanic population grew by 3%. With low immigration from Obama and Trump. So, Black people are decreasing along with whites. The 2 majority demographics that have been here since our country’s inception.
If you use AI or Google and search the countries with the highest quality of life, they are all majority white. I’m sorry but I don’t want America to become Mexico, Africa, Central America, or South America. I don’t give a #### if you call me racist. I think all races deserve God given rights and respect. I also have a brain not clouded by virtue signaling bull ####.

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Trump calls himself a nationalist and you are an antisemitic racists


Nov 15, 2025, 8:50 PM
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there’s really nothing else to say about it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/22/trump-nationalist-926745

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Im glad under Trump 2.0 that MAGA isnt trying


Nov 15, 2025, 10:12 PM [ in reply to Re: You specificallyreferred yourself as a far right nationalist which is a racist ]
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to pretend they aren’t racist anymore. Hopefully normal people are no longer fooled by what their movement really is.

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Re: You specificallyreferred yourself as a far right nationalist which is a racist


Nov 16, 2025, 6:52 AM [ in reply to Re: You specificallyreferred yourself as a far right nationalist which is a racist ]
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Why does it matter if the majority is white?

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Because according to him, and many MAGA,


Nov 16, 2025, 9:25 AM
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black and brown people are inferior.

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Re: Because according to him, and many MAGA,


Nov 16, 2025, 8:51 PM
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Google the countries with the highest quality of life and look at their demographics. I’ll hang up and listen. Also, please tell me what non majority white country you’d be willing to relocate to.

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Trump has been Prez 5 of last 9 years.***


Nov 15, 2025, 4:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Economic issues are getting worse ]
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Nov 15, 2025, 4:14 PM [ in reply to Re: Economic issues are getting worse ]
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I am assuming you begin with the Gulf Wars and your internal hate for Israel. Truth is you have no clue on what precipitated our involvement in that situation.

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Nov 15, 2025, 5:16 PM
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Trust me I have plenty of knowledge on what precipitated all of these wars in the Middle East. I’ll gladly break it down starting with Israel being founded in 1948 and them displacing and massacring hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. The Jewish National Fund founded in 1901 was responsible for buying settlements and areas of land within Palestine. As of 2007 they owned 13% of all the land that is known as modern day Israel. At that time the land was ruled over by the Turkish Ottoman Empire . So the JNG was founded to buy land and settle European Jews in historic Palestine as part of the initial Zionist movement.
Now we can fast forward to the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WW1. This meant that the land mass of Palestine was open for the taking. It was confiscated by British Imperial forces and Britain became the leader of that land mass which was now coined British mandated Palestine. Then in 1917 the infamous Balfour declaration was introduced was posited that a Jewish homeland state would be created on the land of Palestine.
Throughout the mandate period of Palestine from 1922 to 1948 the British were zealous on creating a modern state of Israel in Palestine. The JNF, the Rothschild banking family, and other rich aristocratic Jews worldwide were responsible for buying Palestinian land and settlements and then settling European Jews there.
This was problematic because there were indigenous Palestinians there. Majority Muslims and minority Christian made up the indigenous Palestinians. This created animosity between Palestinians and the Jews. Britain promised to pull out and disengage from Palestine in May of 1948, they then transferred to this problem to the U.N. general assembly. In 1947 the UN decided the best way to solve this problem was to partition the land. This became a problem because the Jewish state would inherit the majority of the land. When Britain pulled out in 1948, Israel immediately declares independence and a civil war breaks out between the Palestinians and the Zionist settlers. The Jews had superior military equipment and more money so they wiped the floor with the Palestinians. So they ended up taking 75% of Palestine despite the UN only giving Israel 56% of the land.
The West Bank went to the Jordanians because the cut a deal with Israel. The Zionist paramilitary groups destroyed Palestinian villages, churches, mosques, infrastructure, depopulated their villages, dispossessed them and expelled them to adjacent countries such as Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt. As previously stated Palestinian Christians were also expelled and the Zionists destroyed their churches. The Palestinian Muslims and Christians were living together in harmony before the Jews showed up. Fast forward to 1967.
Israel initiates a war with their Arab neighbors which includes Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. Israel started this war with the goal of expanding their borders and stealing and occupying land from these countries. With their vastly superior military and armaments they do just that. That was known as the 6 day war and Israel also blew up the American battleship the USS Liberty just of the coast of Israel to hide their illegal invasions from the U.S.
After defeating those 3 countries in just 6 days, Israel began to occupy the Golan Heights in Syria, the West Bank from Jordan and the Sinai peninsula from Egypt. Then in 1982, Israel invades southern Lebanon and proceeds to occupy southern Lebanon for 18 years, until 2000. They did this trying to match the borders of ancient Israel.
This brief history of Israel and its illegal invasions is necessary to understand when we became involved in the Middle East.
Fast forward to the Gulf War. Well before Iraqi President Saddam Hussein’s 2 August 1990 invasion of Kuwait, Iraq and Israel had been locked in their own tense standoff. In 1981, Israeli jets bombed the Iraqi nuclear facility at Osirak. At the time, Iraq was fighting a war with Iran, and Baghdad did not retaliate against Israel.

When the Iraq-Iran war ended in 1988, however, it did not take long for Saddam to threaten Israel as well as Kuwait. By spring 1990, Baghdad was threatening Israel explicitly. “We will make the fire eat up half of Israel," Saddam pledged, alluding to Iraq’s proven chemical weapons capability.
You have to understand that Israel had been attacking its Arab neighbors long before 1990 while the United States stood idly by. Yet, when and Iraqi leader gets fed up and does the same thing Israel does to its neighbors we volunteer or military and resources to fight them off. Why? Elite Zionists Jews have had there tentacles in our politics for decades. We have Zionist Jew politicians and massive Jewish donors that shape foreign policy. Don’t even get me started on the bs Iraqi war. If you’d like I can.

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Nov 15, 2025, 5:34 PM
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Nope, once again your klan/notsie is showing. You have now shown you actually are clueless to the Gulf Wars outside of your antisemitism. I could explain it but my bet is you are way to down the rabbit hole.

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Nov 15, 2025, 6:01 PM
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Saddam invaded Kuwait. “For oil”. Cancelling a large debt Iraq owed Kuwait. A 42 country coalition led by the U.S. came to save Kuwait and beat him back in a 100 hours.
Why are you so dead set on the Gulf War? Anyone can google it and read an extensive history of why it happened. It’s not that difficult.

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Nov 16, 2025, 5:39 AM
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Nope wrong again but you still have no clue on why we got involved.

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Re: Economic issues are getting worse


Nov 16, 2025, 8:44 PM
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Please enlighten me. You haven’t provided one thing to this conversation besides saying I’m wrong with absolutely 0 evidence.

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Nov 16, 2025, 6:54 AM [ in reply to Re: Economic issues are getting worse ]
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What a bunch of gibberish. Israel had nothing to do with the 3 wars you named.

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Nov 16, 2025, 7:29 AM
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He is just the far right version of Classof09.

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Nov 16, 2025, 7:31 AM
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They are both equally as clueless, but Class09 seems more innocent and idealistic.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:07 AM
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Seeming innocent and idealistic are equally as dangerous as the bile drummajor spouts. Simple reason is there are more clueless innocent/idealistic folks than goose stepping drummajors.

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Nov 16, 2025, 8:53 PM
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You’re just saying things man. Pony up show me you knowledge old man.

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Haha. You make the same arguments as this dude***


Nov 16, 2025, 9:36 AM [ in reply to Re: Economic issues are getting worse ]
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Nov 16, 2025, 9:46 AM
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Wrong again Clueless09! You are consistent though.



Just have to say yours once.

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Re: Haha. You make the same arguments as this dude***


Nov 16, 2025, 10:07 PM
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Old Man, you've been challenged to counter Drummer's argument.

Do it or ####.

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Re: Haha. You make the same arguments as this dude***


Nov 16, 2025, 10:19 PM
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He can’t. None of these clowns can.

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