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He's actually lucky...
Jul 26, 2018, 9:07 AM
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Twitter hasn't banned him. Pretty sure he's violated multiple terms of their service.
Although we know Twitter lets it ride so they can get the publicity.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102987]
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and deny dems the pleasure of their kneejerking reactions?
Jul 26, 2018, 10:11 AM
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I think not so.
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You realize...
Jul 26, 2018, 10:19 AM
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Twitter has banned people for much less than what he's done?
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Re: You realize I could wring his neck over half his tweets?***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:23 AM
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He’s just a ####### moron***
Jul 26, 2018, 9:16 AM
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Re: Great, now Twitter is part of the "Deep State" conspiracy
Jul 26, 2018, 9:18 AM
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Remember when Republicans didn't like government telling a private company what to do? Good times.
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I stopped saying or thinking "Simply Incredible" months ago
Jul 26, 2018, 9:24 AM
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It has become taxing to try and make sense of almost any of his ramblings and assertions. His magician's trick ("Look over there!") has grown beyond old.
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He thinks his base is incredibly stupid.***
Jul 26, 2018, 9:33 AM
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He’s not wrong.***
Jul 26, 2018, 9:38 AM
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lolutz..."everybody is stupid--
Jul 26, 2018, 2:57 PM
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Except those who believe what I do"
Shockingly enough, it appears that the Dems still haven't figured it out: this is why Donald Trump is in office.
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His base is a bunch of idiots. That's not much of a stretch
Jul 26, 2018, 3:18 PM
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to say. I'm not speaking to the GOP or conservatives as a whole.
A died in the wool Trump supporter is a moron.
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Autocorrect is also a moron. Dyed****
Jul 26, 2018, 3:26 PM
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Re: He thinks his base is incredibly stupid.***
Jul 26, 2018, 9:42 AM
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again i ask. what has the man done in 18 months that you dont like and is making your life worse. it is a very long list in a very short time. i could care less what he did before taking office. he!! we had a president that was sticking cigars into a teenager in the oval office and i am quite sure you goobers thought that was a ok. please hit me with your list.
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Sure, how many tweets has he sent since becoming President?
Jul 26, 2018, 9:44 AM
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About 30% of them are on your list for starters.
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TWEETS...BAHAHA
Jul 26, 2018, 5:25 PM
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Is that ALL of what you come with as a defense, pusscake?
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Re: He thinks his base is incredibly stupid.***
Jul 26, 2018, 9:48 AM
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One of Trumpies' dumbest arguments: "What has he personally done to you?!"
That isn't the litmus test for pointing out a ###### president. Those who still support him have been swindled on a level that would make P.T. Barnum proud.
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Re: He thinks his base is incredibly stupid.***
Jul 26, 2018, 11:32 AM
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Swindled...what does that mean?
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typically it means someone has taken something from you
Jul 26, 2018, 2:59 PM
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However, I bring more money home now that I did two years ago, and that doesn't mean I got a raise.
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lol...complaining about a strong economy
Jul 26, 2018, 5:13 PM
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Identity politics may be the dumbest thing ever.
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ignoring facts has become a big part of identity/tribalism***
Jul 26, 2018, 5:35 PM
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I think you already understand low inflation is a sign of
Jul 27, 2018, 9:24 AM
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of a growing economy, so rather than explain that to you, I'm just going to move along.
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Re: I think you already understand low inflation is a sign of
Jul 27, 2018, 3:42 PM
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Lol that’s literally the complete opposite of reality. High inflation is almost always connected to a strong economy.
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Stupid is ok with me.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:29 AM
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My old Cherokee grandmother used to tell me about Yankees coming down and thinking because we talk slow we think slow. 'Well honey, don't let that bother you. If they believe you think as slow as you talk that puts you a step ahead of them." So yep, stupid is fine.
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Re: Great, now Twitter is part of the "Deep State" conspiracy
Jul 26, 2018, 10:01 AM
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He thinks the Chinese created the hoax of climate change to have a competitive advantage in commerce. He is a nutcase.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102987]
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Phyconarcissist is more accurate.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:32 AM
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I love what he's doing but his ego seems to step on his actions and message.
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Re: Phyconarcissist is more accurate.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:40 AM
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That would be interesting to see what everyone would think of him if he were off twitter and wasn't a combative attention hound with the media. Maybe we could see the forest through the trees.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102987]
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Maybe, but maybe he does this knowing that keeping the...
Jul 26, 2018, 6:07 PM
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opposition media bouncing to react to every detail of his administration the public will change its perception of what is worthy or not of the ink spent crying foul.
Maybe, the complaints about Trump from the media will eventually exhaust the middle of the road listeners. I know the kneejerk from the politicians won't stop but some of the public may numb to the noise considering it audio pollution.
After a year break from politics I'm enjoying being entertained at the shouts and cries.
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There is a reason that Trump and Obama won a lot of the same
Jul 27, 2018, 9:56 AM
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counties. And grew in popularity in those places over time. Probably lots of them, but at least one of them is scandal fatigue.
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i mustve missed the Deep state thing.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:29 AM
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or are you saying Twitter isnt shadow banning conservatives?
Cause there is a ton of proof that it's happening.
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LOOOOOL, what?
Jul 26, 2018, 10:31 AM
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Where's the proof Twitter is "shadow banning conservatives"?
And how have you missed the "Deep State" thing?
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Also, please address how it is "illegal"***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:33 AM
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what in hades are you talking about?
Jul 26, 2018, 10:36 AM
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where did i say anything about illegal?
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...read Trump's tweet...you know, what we're talking about.***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:44 AM
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my post was on shadow banning. nothing else***
Jul 26, 2018, 11:00 AM
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Do you even read the article?
Jul 26, 2018, 10:43 AM
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“This isn’t evidence of a pattern of anti-conservative bias since some Republicans still appear and some don’t. This just appears to be a cluster of conservatives who have been affected,” said New York Law School Professor Ari Ezra Waldman, who testified at the House Judiciary Committee’s April hearing on social media filtering and is the author of Privacy as Trust: Information Privacy for an Information Age. “If anything, it appears that Twitter’s technology for minimizing accounts instead of banning them just isn’t very good.”
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I don't have enough tin-foil on my head to watch***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:51 AM
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TigerNet Elite [73592]
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no, cause you want to keep your head
Jul 26, 2018, 10:54 AM
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in the sand or up your ###.
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Stops that sub-thread...
Jul 26, 2018, 5:28 PM
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SK is too dense anyway...
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More open minded than you are, cupcake.***
Jul 27, 2018, 9:36 AM
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TigerNet Elite [73592]
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and no one ever say ALL republicans were
Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
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being banned. that would be too obvious. Weird how this never seems to happen to a bunch of Dems?
if its a glitch, then it just seems to happen on one side
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LOL, right. Those sneaky Twitter people.***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:52 AM
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evidence doesnt lie. but your laughing makes your case so
Jul 26, 2018, 10:57 AM
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well.
That is how idiot libs try to shut down debate. Try to mock the other side into silence.
That or call them racist.
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A handful of people are flagged and shadow banned because
Jul 26, 2018, 11:04 AM
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of something in an algorithm that triggered violence/danger/racism/whatever and snuffed the account, and it is now evidence of a complete Republican anti-conspiracy (that's where "Deep State" comes in, since you clearly cannot use your brain)?
Gotcha, and you wonder why I'm laughing.
And then Trump takes it one step farther, and says it is "illegal" for Twitter to be doing it. LOL.
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where did Trump mention the deep state thing
Jul 26, 2018, 10:37 AM
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in his post?
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I sometimes wonder about your intelligence level.***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
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Re: I sometimes wonder about your intelligence level.***
Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
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He is on the cusp of going full Memphis. He just restrains on here a touch so he doesn't look insane.
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Deep State conspiracy is separate from the MSM liberal bias
Jul 26, 2018, 11:21 AM
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The two work hand-in-hand, but are separate. The Deep State is the FISA warrants issued based on a known false piece of opposition research to launch a fake investigation into something that was never there to begin with. It's the intelligence community blaming Benghazi on a YouTube video instead of calling it a terrorist attack. It's the FBI saying no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute Hillary for having an email server in her bathroom which she used to send classified documents and later destroyed without honoring a subpoena. All THAT stuff is the deep state attacking Trump and aiding Hillary.
Twitter, etc. falls under the MSM, which all leans or falls over left.
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I think that's a too narrow of a definition of Deep State.***
Jul 26, 2018, 11:24 AM
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Nope. If it got broader it wouldn't be very deep
Jul 26, 2018, 12:30 PM
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would it? Deep state is basically the FEDERAL intelligence and law enforcement agencies and their associated bureaucrats. It also branches out to other executive departments and bureaucrats as well. It ain't Twitter though.
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Are we just ignoring that your FISA talking point is wrong?
Jul 26, 2018, 4:07 PM
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The Deep State conspiracy is a reaction to try to fight the russia/trump investigation with a "look over there, they are the bad guys" strategy. Some of it works better than others - remember the Obama is spying on me with the microwave claim? - which is why Hillary is still used as part of the conspiracy. Trump's base will believe anything about her so it makes sense to use her to build the conspiracy around.
The Conspiracy also started on 4chan (similar to pizzagate...) with QAnon and spread to Trump's supporters. So, either you are on the side that has 4chan trolls as your support or you have the intelligence communities and courts of the United States as your support (many being republicans themselves).
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Weren't people talking about the "deep state" before Trump?
Jul 26, 2018, 5:19 PM
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The Trump-ites just picked up where those folks left off because of all the leaks that were intended to influence policy. Of course, a lot of that has to do with Trump's dysfunctional management style.
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True, I should say this version of "the deep state"
Jul 26, 2018, 5:40 PM
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was started to counteract the controversies surrounding his administration.
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Not defending Trump, but shadowbanning is real.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:48 AM
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It has happened to me. It's not really a deep state conspiracy. It's part of the flawed algorithm that Twitter uses to reduce viewership of certain type of content that may be considered "harmful or offensive." I don't believe anyone is targeting all conservatives directly, but depending on the topics they discuss they can have their voices limited in several different ways.
This also happens to subjects outside of politics. I know it happens a lot to cryptocurrency enthusiasts. It also happens a lot regarding Russia or international topics than involve American criticism of Russia. (The criticism isn't being shadow-banned, its the argument with the criticism. This has more to do with the fallout over election "meddling."
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Never said it isn't real.
Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 AM
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The conspiracy is that it is targeted at Republicans, which is flat out hilarious.
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Re: now you are the idiot
Jul 26, 2018, 10:58 AM
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No, Facebook doesn't want to promote guns. It's bad business with the mass shootings. It's common sense, which you lack.
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This is exactly the logic for shadowbanning.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:11 AM
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Politically correct people aggressively assume that their opinions are facts and then the banning becomes justified.
This behavior is exactly how someone like Trump got elected. Frustration with one side controlling the facts.
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Re: This is exactly the logic for shadowbanning.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:27 AM
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No he won because Hillary was the candidate and liberals didn't show up. Morons like yourself will always be a heavy minority.
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Haha, you are like... pathologically butthurt.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:34 AM
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All you would have to do to feel less insecure is expand your horizons. There is still time. 
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Re: Haha, you are like... pathologically butthurt.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:38 AM
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You tried and that's what counts. I respect that. I am actually just relaxing and trying to decide where I want to go for lunch and a brew. I think you are projecting my friend. I think you got your feelings hurt, again, very easily too. I was just being honest with you bud.
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Re: you are teaching school today!!! preach it!***
Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM
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That was adorable. Look at you! Way to go!
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I don’t remember advocating for the banning of certain
Jul 26, 2018, 6:17 PM
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opinions simply because I believe they are factually incorrect. I also don’t know which opinions of mine you think I have aggressively asserted as facts, so I’m not able to respond to that dig.
On top of that, I have not said anything remotely resembling political correctness.
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Should I have added more winky faces?
Jul 26, 2018, 7:26 PM
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for you to understand that post was in jest? Sheesh.
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Now I'm the idiot? Sorry you're too stupid to see flawed
Jul 26, 2018, 10:59 AM
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algorithms and flags on dangerous/offensive/graphic content are the reason posts vanish.
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dude you are seroiusly whacked!
Jul 26, 2018, 11:04 AM
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So this dude had a purely ad saying he supported the 2nd amendment and the NRA.
These companies have made their algorithms so that is you are for guns, or against "illegal" aliens or against abortion, you get banned!
If you want to continue to be an idiot, please proceed. But you know #### well what is going on. These algorithms are put in to ban certain legit thinking.
Now go hide in your safe space.
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You don't understand technology at all, do you?
Jul 26, 2018, 11:07 AM
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It's like you only read the headline and not the articles of what you post, yet attempt to call me an idiot. Facebook messed up, they admitted it, and it's been rectified.
Not proof of a liberal agenda against your beliefs here.
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Re: dude you are seroiusly whacked!
Jul 26, 2018, 11:09 AM
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Yeah that is more than enough. Yeah makes sense. In the current climate that would be bad business. If he were promoting fiscal conservatism there would be no issue. Promoting guns is niche issue. It's touchy and bad business. That would be like them running adds promoting abortion. It would be bad business. You can't alienate half of your customers.
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They do unfairly target and silence 2nd Amendment supporters
Jul 26, 2018, 11:13 AM
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I know this from firsthand experience. "They" being algorithms. I do not believe that "conservatives" as a whole are being targeted though. I think the odds of that are very low.
It's subject matter based.
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That's fair. It isn't secretive, or shady (or shadow'y').
Jul 26, 2018, 11:20 AM
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Promoting the 2nd Amendment (which I'm totally for and am a responsible gun owner) is obviously promoting guns. Guns are tied very very closely to violence and other dangerous triggers to the algorithms. It's obvious Facebook (and Twitter) have their algorithms to flag more on the false positive end of the spectrum.
Message was edited by: soccerkrzy® - said "false negative" because I was thinking too hard and double negatived myself, lol
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I don't promote guns. I promote rights. I don't want anyone
Jul 26, 2018, 11:30 AM
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who doesn't care about or want guns to have to think about or look at guns. I was shadow-banned for a thread about the historical context of the 2nd Amendment. It was lifted quickly, but it shows that the interpretation is very loose.
Those who decried the 2nd Amendment and used the same vocabulary like "guns" "murder" shootings" etc don't seem to be effected to nearly the same degree. That makes you wonder.
The other times I was shadowbanned was for discussing the Syrian War and the other was for discussing cryptocurrencies.
From what I can tell, 2nd Amendment debates are the most biased on Twitter. Even extreme misogyny (involving threatening and explicit language) directed at female 2A supporters went unpunished.
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That's pretty anecdotal. How did you know you were shadow
Jul 26, 2018, 11:37 AM
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banned? In what capacity was your shadow banning? And like I said, it's triggered heavily to false positives.
How did you know those retaliating weren't affected?
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Great question. First, I have no proof. So even my personal
Jul 26, 2018, 11:47 AM
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experience only confirms, to me, that the shadow-banning is real.
The first time I knew I was shadow-banned it was because Twitter actually notified me. It said something like, my tweets were not going to be seen by people who do not follow me for the next 48 hours. The reason given was extremely vague, something like, "Twitter's policies against abusive or harmful content."
I do not know the extent of how much the other "side" was effected beyond the fact I could still see their content despite the fact I was not following them. So I deduced that their "punishment" did not equate to mine.
But again, I am not offering proof so take it however you want it.
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I reckon your stuff was still visible with direct links,
Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM
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just not showing up on searching algorithms, as well as "Did You See?" or whatever other promotional ways Twitter gets new content to viewers. Which would explain why you could see their stuff.
The fact you were notified by Twitter makes me think others are notified as well.
Thanks for sharing though, it is interesting, and seems like you got caught up in a false report (someone didn't like what you said so they reported it like a little bitch) and then flagged by the algorithm (because it was close enough - the false positives).
None of this is indicative of a shady practice done by Twitter out to get conservatives, does it seem that way to you?
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I believe there is an indirect angle there.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:06 AM
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I'm not a republican, but there is definitely a liberal bias on Twitter. There are many slight ways to manipulate things on Twitter. That's why "shadowbanning" is the term for it.
"Liberal" and politically correct voices have a much better platform on Twitter. The same is true for Neo-cons who are socially liberal( or silent on social issues). It's an uphill battle for those opposing them.
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It's targeted at appeasing offended people.
Jul 26, 2018, 12:37 PM
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That means it's targeted to help the snowflakes stay in their safe place. Which means it targets Republicans by its very nature. Liberals are always offended over something. Republicans generally are not.
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Shadowbanned is different than being outright banned.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:09 AM
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And I know it is against your nature to know much specifics about a topic before aggressively asserting your opinion, but once again that would probably help you out here. I have never been banned, and have actually been consulted in having other actual racist psychos banned, but I have been shadowbanned a few times. And most of the time it had nothing to do with social or political issues. Most people who are shadowbanned don't even know it and it is not permanent, usually.
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Re: Shadowbanned is different than being outright banned.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:14 AM
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I know how you write and how extreme you are. I didn't say your opinions or research are definitely wrong, but they are extreme. I think they are probably nuts, but maybe you are on to something. It is possible. I just think you were probably on an extreme tangents and they blocked you. It doesn't happen to moderate people.
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Anyone who relies on a narrow channel for
Jul 26, 2018, 11:18 AM
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information is going to perceive things outside of their small box to be radical.
Once again, because you have demonstrated yourself to be an intellectual coward, you will not specify which things I say are radical. You just make vague statements to avoid being nailed down.
Either way, the fact that you are so cool with opinions that are outside your wheelhouse being labeled as "radical" and then being banned as a result further demonstrate why you are the ideal subject for an Orwellian society.
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Re: Anyone who relies on a narrow channel for
Jul 26, 2018, 11:33 AM
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CliffsNotes: You're a nutcase and your mind is getting to you. You're a smart nutcase though. I can see that.
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This is your strategy from a position of weakness.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:43 AM
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1. Avoid specifics at all costs, because I don't want to get crushed. Specifics are not my bag.
2. Make insults because it is a great emotional outlet for internal shame of not knowing sh*t.
3. Acknowledge he's knowledgeable but use the "crazy" angle so he still looks wrong.
Other people can see that you never specify what I say that is actually crazy. Even those who are really annoyed by me are going to notice that. I try to help, but you just keep whiffing there.
I wouldn't be so rude if you just disagreed with me. This only happens because you insult me in substitute of an actual discussion. Even if you insulted me as part of a discussion it would be more respectable. The only thing you can do with a troll who offers no substance is to treat them like a troll.
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Re: This is your strategy from a position of weakness.
Jul 26, 2018, 11:46 AM
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I was very specific. You're a nutcase. Very fascinating, but very long winded and nutty. You're out there, but it keeps you occupied. Which is good.
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and this is why Trump won
Jul 26, 2018, 11:24 AM
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people like you are so smug, anything that thinks differently is a radical.
2nd amendment is radical.
Want "ILLEGAL" aliens to come in the country legally is radical.
Wanted to deport the ones that are in here is radical.
Not wanted to kill babies in the womb is radical.
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Re: and this is why Trump won
Jul 26, 2018, 11:30 AM
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No, Trump won because Hillary was the ticket. Liberals didn't show up. Morons like yourself will always be a heavy minority. You caught lightning in a bottle. Trump will be blown out in 2020.
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Re: and this is why Trump won
Jul 26, 2018, 11:34 AM
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If he's on the ballot.
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Re: and this is why Trump won
Jul 26, 2018, 11:40 AM
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Other than the 2 years of nuttiness we will have to endure, I hope he is. He will get destroyed.
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By whom?***
Jul 26, 2018, 3:02 PM
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Re: By whom?***
Jul 26, 2018, 5:41 PM
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By anyone who can take a breath at that stage.
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You don't think shadow banning is a problem?
Jul 26, 2018, 5:09 PM
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I'd be curious to know why people like the Chairman of the RNC are being shadow banned. My guess is it's happening because Twitter is allowing people with left-wing biases to control its algorithms.
On the other hand, I don't think the government needs to be involved in regulating Twitter.
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Eh, I don't think shadow banning is a problem.
Jul 26, 2018, 5:16 PM
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Incorrectly shadow banning and continually shadow banning an account after it was a false positive from the algorithm is a problem, but that isn't happening here. Also, it is NOT illegal.
My guess is the algorithm is triggered sensitively to false positives, and people associated are getting many followers from accounts that *are* flagged/shadowbanned/etc, mistakenly follow/RT/like a tweet that flags their account, and/or enough weeny left-wing dingbats keep reporting their accounts.
Regardless, this isn't a conspiracy. I don't even think the algorithms are too "left-wing bias", they might be too PC bias and sensitive.
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It's obviously not illegal
Jul 26, 2018, 5:25 PM
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Trump probably doesn't know what shadow banning is. But, to me, the fact that this is mostly happening to conservatives makes me think that there's a problem with whatever criteria is being used to determine whether something is "hateful" or "violent." As you said, it's the "weeny left-wing dingbat" factor, except that it's not just people reporting accounts, it's the actual people Twitter is consulting on how to regulate accounts.
I don't think it's some kind of conspiracy, because it's not like Twitter is explicitly trying to shadow ban conservatives, and they've been pretty open as far as who they're consulting. But it does result in decreasing the reach of conservative influence.
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Re: It's obviously not illegal
Jul 26, 2018, 5:56 PM
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Basically it is happening to ignorant morons and ironically idiots like that are usually Trumptards. It goes hand in hand.
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There are many more left-wingers like that on Twitter
Jul 27, 2018, 3:38 PM
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A whole lot of pretty milquetoast Republicans have been shadow-banned, too.
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I think it's because of the russian bot issue on twitter
Jul 26, 2018, 7:29 PM
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there is some major overlap with conservative talking points and russian/fake bots that I can see an algorithm getting confused.
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This is a bit todo about nothing.
Jul 27, 2018, 9:50 AM
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No one is going to stifle freedom of speech. Sometimes the kneejerk from the right rivals that from the left. Fact is the speech that offends changes no mind. We aren't changed with offensive attacks we are change with reason. The fully charged emotions on display in this country confounds the message.
Both sides could benefit from a good long objective look.
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Re: This is a bit todo about nothing.
Jul 27, 2018, 9:54 AM
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You're deep.
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