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Front Page Story: Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call
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Front Page Story: Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call

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Sep 1, 2013, 7:15 PM

 
Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call

Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney said the Tigers were as healthy as could be expected after a physical game against Georgia. What does he say about Jordan Leggett and Mackensie Alexander? What does he say about the clip that purports to show Georgia players faking injury? Full Story »


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Saw it last night and called it. LSU did it also. MAD!***


Sep 1, 2013, 7:30 PM



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Re: Saw it last night and called it. LSU did it also. MAD!***

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Sep 1, 2013, 7:42 PM

The difference between LSU doing it and UGA doing it was how it affected our offense. When LSU did it, it was on some crucial, late-game drives, and their "injuries" actually kind of gave us some extra time outs to talk about what we wanted to do. Wasn't mad at them nearly as much as UGAy, who could not have faked any more obviously than they did, when they flopped in the middle of first half drives against us to intentionally kill our momentum. It makes me sick. They might as well hold a press conference and say, "We are physically incapable of keeping up with Clemson from a physical standpoint."

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The first flop was 4 minutes into the game***


Sep 2, 2013, 11:36 AM



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I say let them do it-


Sep 2, 2013, 8:40 AM

If they're worried enough about the tempo to fake injuries and spend time at practice devising plans and signals to do so- we are in their heads- and we've already won. In my opinion that kind of tactic is a waste of time and indicates that the coaches and players either can't figure out how to stop us, or haven't put the work in during the off season to get in good enough shape...

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Re: I say let them do it-


Sep 2, 2013, 10:09 AM

It does mess up our tempo some, though.

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Re: I say let them do it-


Sep 2, 2013, 11:52 AM

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!the play should should continue @ the normal pace!!one of the advantages of fast play is to wear-out the other teams Def..it will be ILLEGAL SOON!! it is highly unethical @ best now!! I thought the dawg coach was a more honest man than to allow this!!

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Re: Front Page Story: Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call


Sep 1, 2013, 7:36 PM

Any comment anywhere from a UGA fan or official about this clip?

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Had a Georgia fan behind us and a Georgia friend of

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Sep 1, 2013, 8:50 PM

mine criticizing Clemson fans booing. Mark Richt said last week that he would do anything to slow down the game.

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If anyone is wondering if he changed his mind ...

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Sep 1, 2013, 8:53 PM

or was just lying he knew as much about Clemson last week as he did at kickoff time.

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Yep. When a player just colapses like that after another

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Sep 1, 2013, 8:55 PM

player whispers in his ear, come on man.

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There's something in these hills.


Re: Had a Georgia fan behind us and a Georgia friend of


Sep 2, 2013, 11:53 AM

if they did not FLOP there would be no reason to boo!!!

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Re: Had a Georgia fan behind us and


Sep 3, 2013, 10:13 AM

he said ACC had no class for booing. I told him it was a holdover from LSU game. Then I said Richt showed no class by allowing players to get to the bottom of the hill. He said he didn't know what I was talking about and I said, I didn't think you would.

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Georgia and Most of SEC "Bush League"

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Sep 1, 2013, 9:16 PM

Georgia and the SEC stands for cheating, thugishness, poor sportsmanship, etc--everything that today's media likes to hold up as a role model. I am never surprised at what these teams do--I am somewhat surprised that they consistently get away with it. Also, hats off to Bush League coach Mark Richt who, like the holier than thou Lou Holtz let their teams come over to the bottom of the hill to diss Clemson's tradition of Running Down the Hill. No Class--and don't tell me that the coach cannot control this by his team.

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Sep 1, 2013, 9:32 PM

You are all over it. He talks the talk, but he doesn't walk the walk of a sportsman, a moral man, or a great example of a leader in so many ways IMO. Sadly, he doesn't have to be that kind of guy. They have plenty of talent, great facilities, a rabid fan base, plenty of money. He should be able to succeed without the shenanigans.

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Agree, taunting us at the bottom of The Hill was Classless.***


Sep 1, 2013, 9:58 PM



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Re: Agree, taunting us at the bottom of The Hill was Classless.***


Sep 1, 2013, 11:42 PM

Lack of class can be hidden for just so long before it is exposed. It didn't take long before it came out in MR and his team (re: UF game several years ago when MR supported the thuggery even knowing the team would be penalized for it). It also comes out in the lack of character his players so regularly demonstrate.

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Re: Agree, taunting us at the bottom of The Hill was Classless.***

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Sep 2, 2013, 9:17 AM

unlike former usc games at CU

I believe few game viewers realized there was any jeering at the bottom of the hill

cameras did not give jerks much camera time
This shows respect for US Clemson people

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Re: Agree, taunting us at the bottom of The Hill was Classless.***


Sep 2, 2013, 10:04 AM

Glad their ESPN didn't show ugay's classlessness. Remember though, it is the sec's network.

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Re: Agree, taunting us at the bottom of The Hill was Classless.***


Sep 2, 2013, 11:50 AM

Our staff controls what goes on in our stadium. We should make the opponents come out first and get on the sideline.

But they do need to do something to control the flow

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Re: Georgia and Most of SEC "Bush League"


Sep 1, 2013, 10:30 PM

Anyone remember a few years ago when Richt had the entire team "rush" the endzone to celebrate a TD? He said he didn't care about being penalized and I have no doubt he told them to go to the bottom of the hill either.

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Agree on UGA. Makes the win sweeter. But can't blame all SEC


Sep 1, 2013, 10:39 PM

Only about half!

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Sep 2, 2013, 11:55 AM

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!!!!! Richt knew what they were doing.. he had to give his OK for it to continue like it did!! not as bad as LSU but BAD

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Re: Front Page Story: Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call


Sep 1, 2013, 9:36 PM

What a class act Dabo is! Very proud of our coach!

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@ Cal, NWU players faked injuries & didn't even see trainer!

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Sep 1, 2013, 10:46 PM

Cal's new coach, Sonny Dykes (who runs a HUNH that you may remember seeing him run at LaTech last season) was visibly disgusted at the numerous fake injuries. The sideline reporter said that the "injured" players were coming off the field and not even seeing the trainer. Unsportsmanlike wimps.

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Sep 1, 2013, 11:51 PM

I believe we need a rules change that says an injured player who leaves the filed must stay off until a change of possession. That would at least force them to use 2nd team players to fake injuries, which would make it even more obvious as to what they are doing. Eventually this will all come back to haunt the teams doing the faking.
What university is going to want their team known for playing bush league ball?!
They are just openly admitting that they can't compete with HUNU teams playing by the rules and that they have to cheat.

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Re: @ Cal, NWU players faked injuries & didn't even see trainer!


Sep 2, 2013, 10:13 AM

Good idea, but it probably won't be considered, because it would be even more for the officials to have to keep up with.

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Re: @ Cal, NWU players faked injuries & didn't even see trainer!


Sep 2, 2013, 10:07 AM

You are all over it on this one, Razz. It would be nice for the NCAA officiating body to send out a memo instructing ref's to caution players of time outs for fake claims. Ref's have a way of getting even when they want as in some of the obvious "make up" calls that occur after a bad flag.

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Anyone have an idea where the "injury" happened in the game?***


Sep 1, 2013, 11:52 PM



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Re: Anyone have an idea where the "injury" happened in the game?***


Sep 2, 2013, 1:58 AM

bout the third quarter in the Atlantaome, Back last winter 2012 just befor 2012 became 2013. Close enuff?

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Re: Anyone have an idea where the "injury" happened in the game?***


Sep 2, 2013, 8:41 AM

The game clock is at the bottom of the video - 1st Quarter, 10:58....

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Re: Front Page Story: Swinney talks about faking injuries and Clemson's health in Sunday media call


Sep 2, 2013, 8:42 AM

What message are these coaches sending young athletes, "do whatever it takes to win or get what you want regardless of the ethics"? Great, that's exactly what this culture needs, more citizens "gaming" the system to get a free ride!! Looks like the "Culture de jour" is invading College Football. Either flag the behavior or change the rules and let the defense sub, but this is ridiculous, pathetic, and destroys the integrity of the game!!

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Sep 2, 2013, 9:12 AM

my grandson plays 9th grade football & is a fan of Shuey as he plays same position how can he follow him

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Dawgs: Cheaters, Classless, and LOSERS Report that ESPN


Sep 2, 2013, 9:29 AM

Let them act like thugs at the bottom of the hill requiring our coaches to keep them back from players run off area, let them receive orders from their coaches to fake injuries and fall to the ground because they can't handle our offense and need to cheat, but most importantly that is the difference between winners and losers and Clemson is definitely the winner here! Dawgs, SEC, and NCAA who does not address this are the losers. Like Dabo says grab some "ethics" and try to win the game by your effort not what you try to fake. Sorry Dawgs once again no respect for you as always.

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What do you think no comment means?......


Sep 2, 2013, 11:23 AM

It means I think that is what they were doing but I can prove it....so no comment

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Solution to this : Injured player must leave the game


Sep 2, 2013, 11:37 AM

for the entire series.

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Re: Solution to this : Injured player must leave the game

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Sep 2, 2013, 11:58 AM

until the end of the QTR or 10 mins of play time!! that way U can tell when he is really hurt.. of courSe those UNETHICAL COACHES ( the entire SEC) will just send in a third team gut to flop!!it will take the Presidents of the offending colleges to stop this practice.. coaches will not stop it until then

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I am watching rerun


Sep 2, 2013, 12:01 PM

The announcers are saying that coaching actually work on this.......If the talking heads know who is doing this, why don't they say.

Let everyone know who is doing this. Currently it is not against the rules, but still cheating in my book

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Re: I am watching rerun

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Sep 2, 2013, 12:18 PM

Heard the same thing. If defensive coaches will tell visiting announcers that this is their new strategy, then Clemson, Oregon, etc. should demand action.

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Sep 2, 2013, 12:39 PM

Unsportsman like conduct? 15 yard penalty......it is a a delay of game too

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Here's what rulebook says


Sep 2, 2013, 1:28 PM

"Feigning an injury for any reason is unethical. An injured player must
be given full protection under the rules, but feigning injury is dishonest,
unsportsmanlike and contrary to the spirit of the rules. Such tactics
cannot be tolerated among sportsmen of integrity."

So it's sort of against the rules, but there's no punishment listed because it's hard to know for sure if a player is faking.
Like others are saying, there needs to more of a deterrent than sitting out 1 play. I'd say sit out a half, with the option of taking a 5-yard penalty instead. Offensive players used to fake injuries late in the game to stop the clock, so they added the 10-second runoff rule and you don't see those injuries anymore.

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Sep 2, 2013, 3:37 PM

1) For in-conference games have league officials review game footage and hand out post-game un-sportsman-like penalties.... resulting in some type of limited player AND coach suspensions....

2) For OOC games use "neutral" officials....

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Sep 2, 2013, 3:47 PM

I've heard where they actually practice fake injuries in practice. Ill see if i can find the article.

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