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Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports
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Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports


Oct 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

This will only benefit the largest universities. Will also turn into a highest bidder situation. It’s baffling to me this is being celebrated. How can people not realize how awful this is for college football and basketball as a whole?

I also truly believe honestly this will cause Dabo to go to the NFL

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Re: Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports


Oct 29, 2019, 6:10 PM

I do hope they figure out a compromise that will at least somewhat control the potential for an open market on bidding on recruits. However, it seems that is the main issue that most have with this rule, but is it really fair to restrict every single college athlete from profiting on their own image over a concern of a potential bidding way for a very select few number of players?

I think many people only think of a Trevor Lawrence level player when thinking about something like this, and certainly someone like him would have many more opportunities to earn more income than the average player. However, let's say you're someone like Chase Brice or a similar player. You're not going to earn what Lawrence does, but what if some local business owner who can't afford thousands of dollars offers you like $200 to come sign autographs and take pictures with fans for a few hours?

Or say you're any lesser known player on a team, and you come up with a great idea to earn some money on social media where you're basically able to earn money based on an idea you came up with that has nothing to do with football. I think of this one because there was a player(I can't remember from where) this past year that was told by the NCAA that he couldn't earn money from a web series he had come up with.

This could also open up the door to bring back the NCAA football game since the players would be allowed to get paid a revenue percentage for their likeness.

I also wouldn't worry about Dabo just yet. His statement can easily have meant several things, and I doubt this alone would cause him to leave.

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It won't be good.***


Oct 29, 2019, 6:38 PM



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How much will the #1 QB go for?


Oct 29, 2019, 7:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports ]

1 million if tied to an NFL agent? 2 million?

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Re: Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports


Oct 29, 2019, 10:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports ]

Or say TL never signed, because he is at Oregon with his likeness with Nike. It was all arranged to get him.

It is now a bidding war in recruiting. How does a smaller school like Clemson compete. They don’t. Not sure how we keep up with more opportunities in larger cities and schools.

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Well, not allowing players to earn money on something


Oct 29, 2019, 11:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Amazed at amount of media thinking this a good day for college sports ]

unrelated to their football skills, should have been allowed all along. That kid in Florida last year, should have taken the NCAA'a asss to court on that one!

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Back away from the ledge


Oct 29, 2019, 7:20 PM

This certainly isn’t the “death of college athletics” as you have stated. God forbid these players get to actually make money off their own name. And you’re totally naive if you think there’s not a bidding war for many recruits already.

The only ones that will actually be able to make meaningful money off of this are the top tier players. And I’d love for you to give me one reason why Trevor shouldn’t be allowed to make money off of all the “#16 star player hairband wigs” that are being sold because someone is getting rich off them and it’s certainly not him.

Lastly, hate to break this to you but Dabo has said that he would support NIL legislation so your point that this would drive him to the NFL holds approximately zero water.

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They do make money for their name now


Oct 29, 2019, 9:57 PM



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Re: They do make money for their name now


Oct 29, 2019, 10:18 PM

Its obvious from how they act that a certain segment of the population places no value whatsoever in a free education. Of course these same people are always crying about student debt and wanting the rest of us to pay for their poor decisions.

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Re: They do make money for their name now


Oct 29, 2019, 10:45 PM [ in reply to They do make money for their name now ]

T3Tiger said:

It’s called a scholarship. And yes there are illegal recruiting activities going on now. However, legalizing the money flow will only open the floodgates now. The stated claim by many is that they want these “poor players” to be able to help their families. So how does passing a rule that only helps a very small minority actually achieve that?


Wrong. The scholarship "pays" for their talent. Not their name.

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What's their name without the talent?


Oct 29, 2019, 11:05 PM



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Re: What's their name without the talent?


Oct 30, 2019, 1:08 PM

T3Tiger said:

And don't put pays in parentheses. If you think the scholarship amount is trivial then maybe we shouldn't pay them. Then we can see how much money they get for their likenesses back in their hometowns.


They are not employees, and the schools don't own them. There is no money coming from the school to fund this new ruling, so I am not sure why scholarship money keeps getting referred to as "enough compensation" for the players. Also, you are buying into the inflated value of what it costs to be a student at a school. Just because Clemson sets the total cost to attend for a year at $30,000 doesn't mean it costs the Clemson $30,000 for a student to attend the school. It is an exchange or an agreement not a payment, no different than any other scholarship given to a non student athlete. The school needs the athletes just as much if not more than the athlete needs the school.

I received a full ride to go to Clemson when I went. I was still allowed to make money on the side, and did so quite often.

Furthermore, these "" are called quotation marks. These () are parentheses.

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An engineering student can be on scholarship


Oct 29, 2019, 11:23 PM [ in reply to They do make money for their name now ]

And also make money off their name/talent with their research. With all the money college football generates, the players are certainly not getting their fair share. Couple that with them not being able to have jobs because their sport is a full time job on top of all their classes, and the argument that they are just regular students goes out the window too.

If a guy can make a quick $1000 to send home to his family by selling his own autograph that could make the difference of his parents being able to pay rent that month, it has an impact.

In the long run one of the bigger positive impacts it will have is these guys that make questionable decisions to turn pro early because of whatever their circumstances are will be more apt to stay in school and get their degree because they aren’t in such a bind financially.

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There aren't boosters out paying for engineers' autographs


Oct 29, 2019, 11:31 PM



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Explain to me how you think the corruption gets worse


Oct 29, 2019, 11:35 PM

The corrupt ones are already corrupt. If a player can make money off of their name, how does that make what they are doing corrupt? Now you’ve made it a free market where values are easily set and readjusted. These are still 18 year old kids we’re talking about. Many of these “investments” won’t pay off which will self regulate the market. You’ll see more benefit to guys that are already on campus and are marketable.

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Re: Explain to me how you think the corruption gets worse


Oct 29, 2019, 11:47 PM

It will probably make the guidelines much easier to circumvent. But the bigger issue isn’t that it will make it more corrupt...it’s that the bug payouts to players won’t be corrupt...they’ll be permitted payments for players.

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Explain to me how you think the corruption gets worse


Oct 29, 2019, 11:35 PM [ in reply to There aren't boosters out paying for engineers' autographs ]

The corrupt ones are already corrupt. If a player can make money off of their name, how does that make what they are doing corrupt? Now you’ve made it a free market where values are easily set and readjusted. These are still 18 year old kids we’re talking about. Many of these “investments” won’t pay off which will self regulate the market. You’ll see more benefit to guys that are already on campus and are marketable.

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Because now you embolden programs and boosters


Oct 29, 2019, 11:39 PM



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This is another dumb argument


Oct 29, 2019, 11:51 PM

Boosters that don’t care enough to buy recruits now aren’t going to suddenly start caring enough to buy recruits when it’s legal. They’re going to pay the established guys already on campus because that is what will impact their business. The vast majority of consumers will not care who a recruit that’s never played a college snap endorses.

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Not a dumb argument just because you can't comprehend it.


Oct 30, 2019, 12:08 AM



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Re: Not a dumb argument just because you can't comprehend it.


Oct 30, 2019, 1:14 PM

T3Tiger said:

You seem to be mostly on an island by yourself in here about this topic. So I guess you're the smart one. Again, this will only benefit a few while creating a lot of inequities across different teams and conferences as well as within teams.


He's not on an island, just the people that don't want athletes to get paid are the most vocal, and are the ones starting the threads.

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Yes. Beginning of the end.***


Oct 29, 2019, 10:22 PM [ in reply to Back away from the ledge ]



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I agree that as long as Dabo is making $6MM /yr there is no


Oct 29, 2019, 10:34 PM [ in reply to Back away from the ledge ]

reason for him to go to the NFL.

However, if college football is going this route it will ultimately go the path of NASCAR where money ruins the sport and people lose interest.

If a free college scholarship and a launching point into pro sports (if they're good enough) isn't enough for them then "eff" them. I don't want to watch the little ##### and could care less about the whole #### thing.

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Then don’t watch anymore


Oct 29, 2019, 11:25 PM

Don’t consume games, don’t come on Tnet, give all your regular IPTAY donations to whatever educational department you graduated from. Something tells me those things aren’t going to happen.

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Why amazed. The media is the dumbest collection of people


Oct 29, 2019, 9:43 PM

on the planet (next to dirtpeckers of course.)

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Maybe I'm an anomaly but if they start paying players I'm


Oct 29, 2019, 10:11 PM

out. Not watching anymore. I would rather watch a bunch of walk-ons who want play for Clemson University than a bunch of primadonnas who are in it for their own self interest. I actually feel that way now but still watch. I'm done with IPTAY after this year though.

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You know why they are celebrating this?


Oct 29, 2019, 10:41 PM



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It's all supply & demand! If no one watched, it wouldn't


Oct 29, 2019, 11:09 PM

exist!

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Important To Remember that a large majority of the Media


Oct 29, 2019, 11:13 PM

Is LAZY, INCOMPETENT and Incapable of Critical Thought!

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