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Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 15, 2012, 9:40 PM
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Standout [306]
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Thank You, BV, for the honesty, instead of "We'll fix it"
Sep 15, 2012, 9:42 PM
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That said, I hope you do fix it.
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Yeah...Night and day...***
Sep 16, 2012, 1:05 AM
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CU Medallion [18159]
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is venables considered a dumper now?***
Sep 15, 2012, 9:42 PM
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Oculus Spirit [43144]
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geez, he posts that on Tigerboard with an anonymous
Sep 15, 2012, 9:44 PM
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name and he'll be called every name in the book
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Scout Team [156]
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THIS WEEK BETTER COMPARE TO HELL WEEK FOR DEFENSE
Sep 15, 2012, 10:51 PM
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Last national game we got embarassed. ANOTHER National stage ths week. Time to show NATION WV was fluke and we are better defense and team as a whole. Lets not get embarassed a second consecutive time ON NATIONAL STAGE. IT EFFECTS RECRUITING!!!!!!!
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110%er [3661]
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Re: THIS WEEK BETTER COMPARE TO HELL WEEK FOR DEFENSE
Sep 16, 2012, 2:38 PM
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Yea our recruting has really stunk sense the orange bowl. Lighten up some enjo victories and life!
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Redshirt [94]
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Play Steward, Play Townsend, and Play Blanks at safety
Sep 16, 2012, 8:06 AM
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How can any coach in America think that Wright is better than Steward? Look at the difference b/t the first half with Wright and the second half with Steward.
I safetys have been taking horrible angles. Try Blanks back there.
Townsend? give him a shot. We can't do any worse.
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Re: Play Steward, Play Townsend, and Play Blanks at safety
Sep 16, 2012, 11:10 AM
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Agree, if we're gonna fail, we might as well do it with all our 5* recruits out there.
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Rock Defender [50]
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Play Steward and Blanks. That is why they are here.
Sep 16, 2012, 12:45 PM
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Hope Venables agrees. Blanks and Steward can change everything with their athleticism. Go Tigers. This game means so much. If Florida State breaks scoreboard Clemson's recruiting is screwed for next several years. Florida State will own the ACC for 5 years if they win handily Saturday.
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How do you figure that? We have owned them recently
Sep 16, 2012, 3:28 PM
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but it didn't hurt their recruiting. That said, I do think we will get lit up by them. I just hope it isn't Orange Bowl Part 2...
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I thought that headline was a joke post...wow!***
Sep 15, 2012, 9:43 PM
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CU Guru [1357]
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Re: I thought that headline was a joke post...wow!***
Sep 16, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Vulnerables=Steele 2.0?
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Orange Blooded [3233]
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Sharpen that blade, Brent.
Sep 15, 2012, 9:45 PM
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I'm just waitin' for nut cuttin' time. I know it's coming. I just hope it starts at FSU.
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yep... he already questioned their "Manhood" this week!***
Sep 15, 2012, 9:59 PM
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Suzi, he should tell them they're all Johnsons and no Balls.***
Sep 15, 2012, 11:17 PM
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Give him credit.
Sep 15, 2012, 9:47 PM
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He is not sugar coating it. Just laying it out there and wants his guys to realize what they must do to win...
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I give him no credit
Sep 15, 2012, 10:49 PM
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You me and the frickin' stadium light towers know we can't play defense. He doesn't draw a paycheck to know we suck on the defensive side of the ball right now he gets paid to do something about it. To date, he has not.
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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I'd hate to be a defensive player come Monday
Sep 15, 2012, 9:47 PM
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Brent is not happy. But I'm happy that he's not happy. He's not making excuses for his players or the product on the field. He's going to make our players own up to what they are doign wrong or play someone else ahead of them if they don't shape up.
Unless I'm wrong he was very hard on Chrsitian the past few weeks and started blanks over him today. Chrsitian seemed to play harder today as a result.
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Orange Blooded [2280]
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Coot. How can he judge the defense after just 3 weeks?*
Sep 15, 2012, 9:56 PM
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Re: Coot. How can he judge the defense after just 3 weeks?*
Sep 15, 2012, 9:58 PM
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Easy, they are horrible. Over 300 yards against Furman. Come on. Did you watch the game?
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Orange Blooded [2104]
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You might want to check the batteries in your sarcasm meter.***
Sep 15, 2012, 10:05 PM
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Game Changer [1816]
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Good one!***
Sep 16, 2012, 12:43 AM
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Re: Coot. How can he judge the defense after just 3 weeks?*
Sep 16, 2012, 2:45 PM
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Furman scored 32 on Fla last year. Every fcs or mid major team I saw yesterday hung with their opponent for a half. A lot of talent to go around and guys playing with chips on their shoulder and that holds up for a half. Heck the SEC east has lost 2 games to them and Auburn took an over time. UAB looked preety good for the first half
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Re: ??????
Sep 15, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Sure we don't KNOW for sure how we'll do but we have to go on what we've seen so far.... and it has been mediocre at best.
If you can honestly look @ the last 2 weeks performance on d and NOT be fearful for next Sat. night, I'd be very surprised. That's the nicest way I can say it.
Ball State and Furman ? and AU is very average.
I certainly hope we play differently Sat night.
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O must put up 40 and we need to win to battle by 2 for it to
Sep 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
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Be close from what I have seen out of our d.
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Orange Blooded [2280]
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Lol. Yes but everytime a "fan" questions the D, they
Sep 15, 2012, 10:05 PM
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they are told these very things, so it must apply to the coach also.
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Our defense is bad.
Sep 15, 2012, 10:31 PM
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I'm embarrassed by the inability to stop the run.
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110%er [4063]
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Are Jarrett and Williams just too small to play D tackle?
Sep 15, 2012, 10:56 PM
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Clemson is getting killed on gap control, but doesn't that start on the line?
I heard too much that these two were going to be fantastic, but what is giving way here? Seems like most of the complaining is coming from the linebacker side of the ball.
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Yep, "V" saids it like it is...and I'm afraid the scoreboard
Sep 16, 2012, 12:09 AM
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will lit up a lot...but hopefully for us 1 point more. Have faith Tig Fans since our Boyz may just get the lead out of their b*tts and play ball.
GoTiGERs!
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 12:11 AM
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Venables knows what he is doing. He is lulling FSU into a false sense of greatness only to stomp their heads in the ground and cut their nuts off! The Criminoles won't score 20 points on us. #### right I feel confident. Tired of hearing all this #### about our D. They will man up and make us proud! GO TIGERS!
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 12:34 AM
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Venables "lulling" Fla. State??? Have you watched our "defence" over the past three games? Did you happen to watch the Noles demolish Wake Forest today? I think Coach V., much more so than Dabo, is trying to prepare us for the reality that next Saturday night is going to be a long and embarrassing one for us. Telling it like it is doesn't constitute dumping on our D. They do a good enough job of that themselves---and unfortunately they'll very likely leave a pile of it on the field next Saturday.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 12:36 AM
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Yeah I watched them demolish a team on the same level as Ball State basically. Wake is not good period. If FSU beats us by 50 then yeah I will say we are screwed and they are that good. Until then I will put my money on BV and Clemson.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 4:33 AM
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It's easy to see what is happening on the "D". 2 issues. For the secondary, the coverage is way too soft. They're getting left in their shoes on curl routes and slants. They do pretty good defending streaks. More evidence of this is when the defense tightens up in the red zone, less field to zone cover, more men in a smaller area, better defense.
The issue with the run is that the Tigers are not wrapping them up and taking them to the ground. I saw way too many yards gained in the last 3 games after the point of initial contact. The defense is going for the BIG HIT, lowering their shoulder into the ball carrier as if to knock him off his feet - what is happening however, is the ballcarrier is bouncing off them for at least an additional 3 yards. If the defender can not get them to the ground, then he needs to hold onto the ballcarrier and wait for the calvary.
All in all - it is not the scheme that is making the defense suck, it is the discipline of the individual players.
I even watched Anthony get burned by not wrapping up defenders yesterday - and Anthony and Blanks seem to be the most disciplined kids on that side of the ball.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 7:14 PM
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Couldn't agree more. I saw way too many yards after contact yesterday. Seems like it often took 3 or 4 guys to finally bring the guy down. Seems like either poor tackling technique or lack of size/strength.
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Associate AD [1039]
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New year, same old tune...blah blah blah
Sep 16, 2012, 8:37 AM
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stop talking about it and fix it!! Sounds just like Steele.
Now you see why OU's defense was garbage under this guy. He sucks.
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Re: New year, same old tune...blah blah blah
Sep 16, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Actually, I remember watching the Oklahoma /FSU game last year and thinking - "I wish we had a defense as mean as that".
I was shocked and elated that we got BV. The breakdown is with the players vision and discipline. Those "intangibles" the coaches are always talking about. They're playing too soft and lack intuition.
This is the sort of thing that can only be overcome with recruiting. Some of the kids have it, but we need some key people in every tier of the defense to really become a force.
I am very happy with Travis Blanks and Stephone Anthony as well as Beasley stepping up.
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Re: New year, same old tune...blah blah blah
Sep 16, 2012, 7:16 PM
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I also don't think a coach can correct the problems with existing players in three games. My hope is that we'll see steady improvement from week to week.
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Re: New year, same old tune...blah blah blah
Sep 16, 2012, 8:58 PM
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OUs defense was garbage under him?
LOL sigh poor chicken fan. Grow a pair and at least get a USC screen name.
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Associate AD [1039]
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Yes, look at the film
Sep 17, 2012, 8:47 AM
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And the numbers bear it out as well
2008 - 68th ranked defense
2009 - 8th
2010 - 53rd
2011 - 55th
that's garbage defense by any standard.
BV has seen lots of spread offenses in the Big XII but just like steele, he never figured out how to stop them.
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Game Day Hero [4509]
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I would kick them in the #### ....
Sep 16, 2012, 10:13 AM
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which I think is what he is going to do...
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Well, if BV doesn't kick them in the #### then...
Sep 16, 2012, 11:09 AM
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...FSU will. But the FSU version will be in national TV for all to see.
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Ring of Honor [23577]
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BV denies greatness, quacks like a duck and sounds like a
Sep 16, 2012, 10:59 AM
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5 percenter on the devil's playground.
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Game Changer [1816]
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Shouldn't he have taught the fundamentals BEFORE week 4?***
Sep 16, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Now that's just crazy talk...***
Sep 16, 2012, 12:20 PM
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At least he is not
Sep 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
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Breaking down ypc!
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Yet...***
Sep 16, 2012, 12:12 PM
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Lol very true, at least we havent heard any Dillon math yet!***
Sep 16, 2012, 2:25 PM
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 11:30 AM
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We had 385 yards rushing against Wake on Saturday. I expect no less than 450 against the Clemson defense. This is going to be one of the longest weeks of the season, waiting in anticipation of this Nationally televised Gameday Saturday in Tallahassee. Welcome all Clemson fans.
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Excellent, maintain that type of thinking...
Sep 16, 2012, 11:33 AM
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..we WANT you to feel like you're entitled as opposed to taking us seriously.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 3:26 PM
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As I told the guy sitting beside me at the game - our defense tired out the Furman offense keeping them on the field that long. Maybe that is our plan.
seriously - i sure hope we can run the ball this week better than we did saturday. I knew our defense was an issue - but the lack of making holes for ellington is just as bad.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 9:07 PM
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All due respect-Doubt that keeping their offense on the field to wear them out is the plan.
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110%er [3823]
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Mount Adams will be in attendance.
Sep 16, 2012, 3:33 PM
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This game has HUGE implications, not only within the ACC but on the recruiting trail. A signature win in Doak definitely leaves an imprint on guys like Adams and Alexander.
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Re: Front Page Story: Venables: FSU will break scoreboard if defensive woes aren't fixed
Sep 16, 2012, 8:56 PM
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Watch how Notre Dame defensive secondary handles Michigan State in the first half. Imitate.
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