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Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 2:28 PM
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Seems he is not playing consistently or well. Do we have alternatives?
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 2:42 PM
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Oh my gosh, you guys never quit. We will be freaking 11-1 when the calendar turns to January and there will only be a few teams with that kind of record.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 2:45 PM
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Is that a yes or a re-direction. I’m happy with where we are but is he the guy?
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That's a troll named Valley-coot.***
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Dec 17, 2023, 3:41 PM
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First 70+ year old use the term "freaking" in context....
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Dec 17, 2023, 4:46 PM
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Re: First 70+ year old use the term "freaking" in context....
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Dec 17, 2023, 4:47 PM
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If we lose one of the next two games, I’m blaming it on Valley coot for jinxing it.
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He can't be right, cuz coot.***
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Dec 17, 2023, 4:48 PM
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Re: He can't be right, cuz coot.***
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Dec 17, 2023, 4:49 PM
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I just don’t understand why people keep giving this coot TUs.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 2:53 PM
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Chase can deliver but it does seem as if he's been off a bit here over this last little bit. It would be great if Beadle can get some extra time in these next two games and step up for us down the ACC stretch there. Having depth and competition at PG will pay big dividends if it comes about.
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Evidently not
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Dec 17, 2023, 2:53 PM
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First, gotta remember that he is not a PG, but a SG (which is scary) playing out of position. He is not able to pass or get other players involved with his shoot first mentality. His brother is a PG historically, but has the same problem with the ball. That leaves the Tigers with Beadle, who has been given chances, but the results have been disappointing IMO. I have wondered if Girard & Chase switching positions would have a better chance of getting the ball in the hands of the post players more often and getting better movement in the offense…
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Re: Evidently not
Dec 17, 2023, 2:56 PM
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Last year, Chase hunter averaged more assists per game than any clemson PG since ed scott. People that say, "he cant pass" are either ignorant or incredibly dumb.
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Maybe you can accept WONT pass
Dec 17, 2023, 3:09 PM
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In BB’s “jack it up” offense last year, there was rarely more than one pass per possession. Not a whole lot of assists were made by the team. Chase appears to be a stat-first guy to me.
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Re: Maybe you can accept WONT pass
Dec 17, 2023, 3:26 PM
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just posted in another reply, historically we're dreadful under Brownell at assists. Averaging 12.6 assists per game over his tenure which places Clemson in the mid-200s of Div 1 teams, on average, over a 13 year tenure.
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Re: Maybe you can accept WONT pass
Dec 17, 2023, 3:37 PM
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We averaged 14.3 assists per game last season which was the highest under brownell. It was good for 5th in the ACC behind miami, Duke, VT, and UVA. It's hard to take you sereiously when
You say "there was rarely more than 1 pass per possession." You must not watch the games. That's the only thing that makes sense.
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Re: Evidently not
Dec 17, 2023, 4:43 PM
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Now, now no need to call people names on here.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
Dec 17, 2023, 2:59 PM
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He is a combo guard and not a pure PG, but he is the best we have. He is still pretty solid.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 3:24 PM
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Brad has never placed an emphasis on true PG and it has shown. We average 12.6 assists per game over his tenure. That averages to the mid 200s or bottom quartile of Div 1 basketball programs. We're at 17.3 this year which explains why we're 11-1 not a more typical for Brad 8-3 at this point. For comparison, we averaged 14.5 assists per game under Purnell. Still not great. Not even good really. But puts you right around 100th in Div 1 on average which is a fair bit better than the 200s.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
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Dec 17, 2023, 4:11 PM
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Stats can be manipulated in many ways... per game statistics do not account for pace.
First off, brownell's offenses have been much better the last 7 years including this year. We are averaging 13.9 assists per game over that span. During purnell's last 4 years, his teams averaged 15.9 per game. It's hard to compare per game data because purnell's teams played at a much greater pace. For example in purnell's best year, the team averaged 15.7 assists per game. We took 2,191 total FG (9th in the nation) that year and had 535 assists. We assisted on 24.44% of field goal attempts.
This year we have 173 assists on 600 FG attempts. We are assisting on 27.88% of FG attempts. That will probably go down a bit in ACC play.
Last year we had 485 assists on 1,923 FG attempts. We assisted on 25.22% of our FG attempts.
So last year we were more efficient in assists per FG attempt than we were during purnell's best year.
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
Dec 17, 2023, 5:56 PM
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Shoild have done assist per fg made. Dont really know whatbi was thinking honestly. Lol. Dont habe the time anymore
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
Dec 17, 2023, 4:50 PM
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He is really good defensively and driving to the basket.. his shot has been off but nobody off the bench has been much better from three
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Re: Do we have the point guard we need?
Dec 17, 2023, 4:13 PM
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We need to do what exactly? We have a good one who should keep us in the top 25.
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