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Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 7:51 AM
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almost equals total cost of building the entire house. Inflation is tough. I remember a 5 pound bag of sugar being 49 cents - now 10 times that for 4 pound bag. What do you older guys remember? (Not that you need to be old to have seen big increases).
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 7:59 AM
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Prices are crazy right now and are unlikely to go back down unless something really bad happens. Inflation is the primary reason I am working a few more years.
BTW, I remember when the min wage went up to $3 per hour and I got a raise at my PT high school job.
Those were the days!
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Saw yesterday where one school district is paying bus
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:04 AM
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drivers over $23 an hour. Big change from just a few years ago but big responsibility.
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When I was in school, high school students drove the busses***
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ReWhen I was in school, highschool students drove the busses
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:38 AM
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yes and about as soon as they got their license. what could possibly go wrong? wonder if they weere supposed to have extra insurance?
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Re: ReWhen I was in school, highschool students drove the busses
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Jul 13, 2023, 9:08 AM
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Heck my dad used to drive a tractor from Columbia to Lake Murray when he was 14 lol
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Re: ReWhen I was in school, highschool students drove the busses
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Jul 13, 2023, 10:49 AM
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yes and about as soon as they got their license. what could possibly go wrong? wonder if they weere supposed to have extra insurance?
Students including my older sister drove the buses back in the day and I don't any issues other than one guy was able to remove the governor off his bus for a little extra speed. Is it any worse to have a retire person driving the bus than a 17 year old?
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Would you want your children riding on a bus...
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that was driven by a 16, 17 or 18 year old kid? Not me !!! The maturity level of kids that age today is not what it was years ago.
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Re: When I was in school, high school students drove the busses***
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Yep, my dad who went to Columbia HS used to drive a bus and that is how he met my mother (she was a freshman when he was a junior). On afterschool "dates" he used to pull the bus up to the drive through at Rush's lol. Also, he was a late bloomer and so short he had to stack pillows to sit on to be able to see while driving. Can you imagine such a thing these days? lol
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Re: When I was in school, high school students drove the busses***
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Jul 13, 2023, 5:04 PM
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Uphill both ways. You forgot uphill.
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The current minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:16 AM
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When I got my first job in 1978, the minimum wage was $2.00 an hour. I was making $6.00 an hour.
Chick-fil-A currently pays high school and college age kids between $15.00 and $20.00 an hour.
If you want to attract and retain good workers, you have to pay them.
In this economic climate, there is no way a person working full time could survive on $7.25 an hour which is less than $14,000 per year. For a single person in US, the 2023 federal poverty level is $14,580.
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Re: The current minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
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It won’t let me like your posts TU for some reason? Anybody have a clue why?
Or Clovers either?
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I was able to like your post, even though I don't
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particularly like it. 
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Re: The current minimum wage is $7.25 an hour.
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Jul 13, 2023, 9:40 AM
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The $15 an hour people are fighting for is hardly enough to live either.
$32,000 doesn't get you far even in the most rural of communities.
If you look at the pay rates and benefits packages of McDonalds franchies in Europe you can see that their is still plenty of profit available when you aren't paying poverty wages.
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your not supposed to live on entry level jobs.
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Jul 13, 2023, 10:14 AM
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most of these jobs are for high schoolers, or retired folks or second job workers.
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While that is correct...
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Jul 13, 2023, 3:57 PM
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at least in part, there are plenty of adults who are either incapable, unqualified, or simply unwilling to do anything beyond those entry-level type jobs. The prisons and jails are full of them because they resort to illegal activities.
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nobody is making minimum wage.
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Jul 13, 2023, 10:12 AM
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high school kids are getting $15 an hour to work fast food. You don't need a federal minimum wage, because the market is ignorning it anyway.
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Re: nobody is making minimum wage.
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Why does it matter that they are in HS? Doesn't mean they aren't good employees. Also, I'm not sure when you had a fast food job but the overwhelming majority aren't HS age.
Many kids have bills. Poor parents, needing a car, saving for college, etc.
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It matters because its supposed to be an entry level job
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Jul 13, 2023, 10:26 AM
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where you learn customer service, the basics of operating a business etc. High school kids aren't "living" on the money they earn. And if they have any sense, they will realize its a dead end job and go to trade school to earn more pay. It's a "wake up call" job. Go learn a trade, earn a better living.
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Re: It matters because its supposed to be an entry level job
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That is incredibly inaccurate and outdated.
1, high schoolers make up an extremely small percent of the work force. The last two fast food places i went to were entirely staffed by adults. Also, very poor logic to think that HS kids can work your tuesday lunch rush 9 months out of the year.
2, you cant paint all high school kids with the same brush. every situation is different. I had friends in HS who had dead beat parents so they worked nights / weekends to provide for their siblings.
3, despite your lack of respect for the service industry it isnt a dead end job. Tons of opportunity in that field.
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Re: It matters because its supposed to be an entry level job
Jul 13, 2023, 7:12 PM
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Every business is in the service industry? All businesses provide a service.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Rent. Remember working a part time job at $3.25 and being able to pay for rent, utilities and groceries.
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I renember when I had to close about 15 transactions(List
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side was 1, sale side was 1) to make the million dollar club...now, you can do it in one deal. I remember when you only got 2 points for a 20 footer. I remember when the the service station attendant asked you if you wanted him to "Check the oil" as he filled up your tank. I remember my dad filling up his "Bug" for THREE WHOLE DOLLARS. I remember a cheeseburger,fries,and a small coke at McDonalds for 99 Cents. I remember hunting discarded drink bottles until you could get four or five of them to take back to the store to cash in for a nickle each, so you could then buy a Pepsi and a Three Muskateer.....I remember my first pair of canvas Converse tennis shoes that cost me 10 whole dollars(I had to cut two yards with a push mower to buy them).
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Before I was old enough to get a "real job"...
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mowing lawns, cleaning gutters, and cutting firewood for people were my sole sources of income. I charged $5.00 per yard to mow the front, back and both sides. At one point, I was mowing ten yards each Saturday in the spring and summer. I'd fill two or three glass Gatorade bottles with Kool-Aid and take them with me. If I ran out, I'd drink from the spigot or a garden hose.
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I started mowing yards at 12 years old. Just like you, $5
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bucks for the whole yard, and would trim the shrubs for another $5. But, I had a poore clientele than yourself,I had to drink from their hose pipe.
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A large Double combo at Culvers yesterday..
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$14. I was shocked.
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Gas, Fuel, Petrol
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Gas $019.9, could fill my '62 Bonneville for less than $4
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:40 AM
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I got 75 cents an hour, worked 13 out of 14 days (got every other Sunday off).
I was blessed to have a job.
Oh, almost forgot -- just had all my windows replaced.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:42 AM
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Cause the old ones melted?
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 8:44 AM
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I paid $1 for the 1981 Orange Bowl program (my son had it framed). It is in mint condition and the guy that framed it said he would give him $335 for it!
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Problem is everybody keeps on paying it like we're stupid or something. My grandparents would have just said pass.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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not an increase but my dad was a plumber and he used one of the folding wooden carpenter rulers. He could put on end under the bottle cap edge of a coke and pop the cap off. He also had a way of coiling his extension cord in a chain link fashion where it wouldn't tangle and it would come apart tangle free when you shook it. I miss him every day.
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My dad coiled his extension cords the exact same way.***
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Re: My dad coiled his extension cords the exact same way.***
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We can too, there are videos on how to do that on Youtube. Ha Ha
And for the record, I've watched them several times and STILL can't coil my extension cords properly.
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Re: My dad coiled his extension cords the exact same way.***
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do you know his technique? I would love to do that but dad has been gone for years and I have forgotten. I'm sure there is a youtube chanel for it.
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I can do it, but I generally don't...
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I usually just coil them around my hand and elbow like a rope.
His technique was just a series of slip knots.
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Re: I can do it, but I generally don't...the how to video
Jul 14, 2023, 8:08 AM
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Looks like you loop it through each time. Need to see the beginning to see how they start it. With a rope if you feed it in a bucket or other space(anchor locker) it doesn't tangle coming out. Might work for cords too. I coul mine so I can hang them on the wall.
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Re: My dad coiled his extension cords the exact same way.***
Jul 14, 2023, 7:52 AM
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Been coiling my extension cords for 40 years since I was in the plumbing business. It's easy to do but hard to explain. Youtube might have it.
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Re: My dad coiled his extension cords the exact same way.***
Jul 13, 2023, 4:29 PM
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So did mine! I wish I could get him to show me the technique one more time.
Never thought I'd ever miss someone as much as I miss him.
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Gas for 32 cents per gallon***
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Re: Gas for 32 cents per gallon***
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Leaded or unleaded?
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Re: Gas for 32 cents per gallon***
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July forth Sheetz had a grades of gas for $1.776, filled one car up…lol
My first real job at 15 (worked all the time as a kid cutting grass, uncles farm, roofing. & any side job) at a restaurant making $3.35 an hour in 1982… lol
I worked 30 hours a week after school for about 65-70 dollars a week…. Lol
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Yep, I was mowing lawns at 12 years old and got my
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first job at 14 paying 2.40 an hour. That was actually below minimum wage because to get minimum wage you had to be 15 at that time.
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I also meant to include that the 2.40 an hour job was for
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landscaping.
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Gas for 32 cents per gallon is cheaper now than it was then
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If you bought a gallon of gas for 32 cents in 1973, factoring in inflation over the past 50 years that same gallon would cost $3.16 in 2023. The average price of a gallon of gas last week across the country was $3.00.
The price of gasoline hasn't even kept up with inflation yet people complain more about gas prices than anything they buy.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Awww, us old (or older) people reflecting on "the good ole days". In the early 80's, I worked about 35 hours a week in a Quincy's Family Steakhouse during high school. That's six nights a week, and I got Tuesdays off (woo hoo).
I think I started at 3.25/hr and a year and a half later was making 3.35/hr. When the rest of my high school friends went off to college, they "bumped" me to 3.50/hr. Because the steakhouse was only at night (35 hours a week, mind you), my dad thought I needed a day job also. I took a job in a rug company for 4.00/hr (40 hours a week) and "reduced" my steakhouse hours to 30.
Two jobs, 70 hours a week, and too tired to spend any of it....I saved enough to pay for my first year at Clemson the following year.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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We worked back in he day, it was never an option if you wanted or had something.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Hi clover65,
I replaced windows in my 40 year old house about 18 months ago for $300 per window, including labor. I shopped around, bought windows myself and hired someone to install them. I saved around 50% overall. If you're patient and shop around, you can still avoid some of the ###### going on to us consumers. Good luck!!
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 9:31 AM
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I feel your pain. I've paid a small fortune replacing 30 of them in mine. They were so rotted by neglect we had to do full frame rip out and replace.
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When my house was a few years older than yours I,.....
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.....went to Homely Depot and purchased double pane, argon filled w/the dividers in them. They cost less than $200 each and I installed them myself. I ordered 2-3 at a time and paid as I went. I had no knowledge on the technique and no YouTube, only Bob Vila on Saturday mornings to coach me as this was 30 years ago. I`ve had to go back to HD and order weatherstripping and various hardware and they still make it good.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 9:33 AM
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I remember, in the early 1950's, riding with My Dad and Grandfather to purchase gas for .06 cents a gallon in North Carolina. Filled up gallon jugs and other containers and my job was to hold them up without spilling on the way back. They both were in the front seat with My Dad smoking a cigar and my Grandfather a cigarette. We made it back to Winnsboro. In 1964 I graduated from High School on a Thursday night. The next day at 3:00 P.M. I went to work in the Cotton Mill making. $1.25 an hour. By the end of the Summer I was making full pay, $1.65 an hour. I was glad to see Newberry College in September.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 9:56 AM
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I cropped (or "primed"...depending on where you're from) tobacco for $1.15 per hour from around July 4 through Labor Day. Would make enough to buy my school clothes in September. The second summer we worked so much overtime that I also got myself a $65 ten-speed bike!
Nothing like getting up at 5am to be in the fields by 6am...working until 6pm...then going to football practice at 7pm. And back in those days the first week of football "practice" was nothing but running.
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My job in high school was at a tire store
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Jul 13, 2023, 10:19 AM
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I worked 55 hours/week in the summer for $110 cash. Min wage I think was $3.35 but I didn't have to pay taxes and when I started I was only 14 so I was cool with it. Bought my first car for $600 from that job (1974 Toyota Celica).
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A country store a mile from my house as a kid
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Jul 13, 2023, 11:41 AM
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had hand dipped ice cream cones for a nickel and bottle cokes for about the same price. If you were lucky enough to find a coupon from a newspaper or from a package, the store owner would take it instead of money if he had that product in stock - talk about "No purchase necessary"!
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 11:48 AM
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TV Wdw companys rip you off go to local Lumber Yard get same or better quality for lots cheaper!
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 12:43 PM
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I remember gas being $0.33/gallon
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 1:23 PM
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Over the years I have spent far more repairing and renovating my home than I actually paid for it
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 1:25 PM
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At this very moment I'm sitting in a house on the River Road in louisiana. The windows and all the doors are at least 150 years old. Beautiful and sturdy with most of the original wavy glass. These days you're lucky if your windows hold up 25 years.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 4:29 PM
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My house was built in 1905 and still has the original front door and all of the windows. I've been tempted to have them replaced for better efficiency, but I can't bring myself to do it. The wavy glass is always a good conversation piece when folks come over.
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A Hershey for a nickel!!!***
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Jul 13, 2023, 1:49 PM
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 2:06 PM
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I just got my entire house painted inside and out and it cost $20,000(best quote by far). In 2009, I actually bought an occupied rental HOUSE in a mill village for $22,000.
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I umember a "gas war" when I was in high school where the
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Jul 13, 2023, 2:38 PM
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price per gallon dropped to 15.9 cents per gallon. Nowadays, 15.9 cents worth wouldn't even fill up a baby food jar.
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Jul 13, 2023, 4:54 PM
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 13, 2023, 5:06 PM
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Here is a personal example:
In 1995, I purchased my home at a cost equal to 3x my salary. That same home today would require nearly 5-6X my salary.
Income has not kept up with the cost required to achieve the American dream (home ownership). Throw in the last 2 years of across the board inflation, and it’s been brutal. Forget the government manipulated CPI data. We can easily see that we are paying 50-100% more for goods than we were 3 years ago.
Unfortunately the trend looks to continue to rise at a higher than average rate over the next few years.
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Re: Estimate for replacing windows/doors in 38 year old house
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Jul 14, 2023, 12:56 AM
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My wife and I replace some windows last year. We chose Pella windows. Wood inside/ Clad outside, Low E with Screen. Cost was 1000.00 a window basically. Hope this helps!!
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CU Medallion [53826]
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Clover, you might want to order a couple of extra ones...if
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Jul 14, 2023, 7:36 AM
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they come in damaged, it may be weeks or months before you can get anymore shipped...
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CU Medallion [53826]
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My builders used to quote 5 to 6 months on say a 2,000 sq.ft
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Jul 14, 2023, 7:39 AM
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house...and do it in 5 with good weather. Now they say 12..and they will not guarantee that...What is amazing is that they have to treat their subs like Dabo treats recruits....Look at one crosseyed for showing up late...and you have to go find a new electrician, plumber,hvac guy etc....
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