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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
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Nov 20, 2023, 5:31 PM
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I understand today the idea is to lessen the number of kickoffs that are returned in hopes of fewer injuries. But it’s a waste of time to keep having the ball sail into the end zone and the runner trot off the field. Are not injuries still occurring as the players up front collide not knowing if the ball will be ran back? I say move the kicker back and put that exciting play back in the game.
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Top TigerNet [30098]
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Yeah I agree
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Nov 20, 2023, 5:32 PM
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just wastes of time now. The kickoff used to be an exciting play
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Heisman Winner [86096]
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I say if we are too pansy to let the opposition return it, the ball should be
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Nov 20, 2023, 5:38 PM
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placed on the THIRTY FIVE, not the 25, when it goes into the end zone.
BUTT, if the team receiving the ball pansies up and FAIR CATCHES a kickoff on the field of play, the ball gets placed at the FIFTEEN!
Put some decisions back in that play!
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All-In [10873]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
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Nov 20, 2023, 6:24 PM
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Kicking the ball into the endzone is why schools recruit kickers. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Campus Hero [13749]
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Leave it where it is, BUT
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Nov 20, 2023, 6:39 PM
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If the KO goes through the uprights, it’s 1 point.
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Athletic Dir [1163]
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Re: Leave it where it is, BUT
Nov 20, 2023, 10:05 PM
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Yes that is what I’ve said for years. More exciting!
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Offensive Star [349]
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Re: Leave it where it is, BUT
Nov 21, 2023, 7:19 AM
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I hold my breath on every kickoff and punt as Clemson’s cover teams have traditionally awful.
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Valley Legend [12684]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
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Nov 20, 2023, 6:41 PM
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make it exciting, make everyone run backwards on the kickoff
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Paw Warrior [4850]
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Take away the fair catch moving it to the 25. Fair catch is as before, where
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Nov 20, 2023, 6:57 PM
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you catch it. And 25 yard line is ONLY for touchbacks.
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Paw Warrior [4843]
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Re: Take away the fair catch moving it to the 25. Fair catch is as before, where
Nov 20, 2023, 7:15 PM
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This is correct. That’s why KOs became less exciting.
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Orange Phenom [14679]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
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Nov 20, 2023, 7:02 PM
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Great ideas in this thread! 🙂
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Standout [233]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 20, 2023, 7:19 PM
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It's called FOOTball for a reason.
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Associate AD [1098]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 20, 2023, 9:47 PM
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Can't eliminate kick offs without eliminating onsides kicks. Then what?
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Game Day Hero [4327]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 20, 2023, 9:53 PM
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Do like the XFL (USFL?) did, if you want to try an on-side kick, you get 4th & 10 from the 40. Make it and you get the ball, fail and you turn over on downs at the spot.
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Solid Orange [1305]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 1:09 PM
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That's what they did? What an abomination.
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Game Changer [1834]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 3, 2024, 11:32 AM
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Just get rid of the kicking tee and snap it
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CU Guru [1054]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 20, 2023, 10:43 PM
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Do away with kicks and punts altogether. Spot the ball on the 40 with 4 downs to get a first. If that fails the other team takes over where the ball is spotted. No field goals. If a team scores they go for 2. The other team would get the ball spotted on their 40. They’ll never do that because I have no say (which may be a good thing)
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 7:37 AM
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I like the idea of no field goals, too. Especially THIS YEAR.
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110%er [4074]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 11:01 AM
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I like the idea of no field goals, too. Especially THIS YEAR.
We haven't needed a rule change for that this year.
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Hall of Famer [8360]
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Game Changer [1834]
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Solid Orange [1389]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 11:04 AM
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4 downs to get a first is really stupid. You should always play make it take it then. 4th and 10 on the 40 is more interesting.
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Game Changer [1834]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 1:55 PM
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How about time? You have x amount of time to move the ball 10 yards or you have to kick it or turn it over where it lies. Who cares if you run 10 plays? You only have so much time to get it done.
It would totally change the dynamic of games. Imagine not being able to milk the clock ever. If you have 60 seconds to get a first down or turn it over how would that change everything?
The other part is why in the heck with all of the technology available in the world can we not high-tech the football and the gridiron and always know where the ball is at the exact second we want to know it? Look at when the player is down, look at the clock get the exact position of the football at that time on the clock. End of debate about first downs and touchdowns and greatly increase how fast the game plays.
Out of four quarters of football there is actually only 11 minutes of actual play action on the field, the time between plays takes most of the time.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102926]
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It won't be long until they have 3 hour commercials and...
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Nov 21, 2023, 11:10 AM
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flip a coin to see who wins.
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Solid Orange [1305]
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Re: It won't be long until they have 3 hour commercials and...
Nov 21, 2023, 1:11 PM
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3 hours of commercials is practically already here.
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Game Changer [1834]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 12:02 PM
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In regard to injuries,
In 2011, from the numbers I found, there were approximately 2880 players in the total NFL system. This includes practice squads, pup lists, IR, etc. Out of all those players, 2.5% experienced an injury that ended their NFL career. Sure some were severe, like ripped knees or broken limbs or bad concussions...but most were chronic injuries that made the player non-competitive even though they would still kick butt on most college teams.
So, is taking the 2.5% risk of a career-ending injury, in a league where the average pay is $1.6 million per year, worth the risk of actually having a kick-off? It is basically the same for college kids. If we face the truth on a good year a great player has about a 5.5% chance of getting signed into the NFL. If they are in the 2.5% that have a career-ending injury they lose that 5.5% chance of the big NFL payday. They still have an 81% chance to complete a life-changing college education based on our team's graduation rate.
So this long post is to say, play freaking football. Serious injuries are a risk that all sports have. Football's risks have been greatly exaggerated in my opinion. If we keep up this idea that no one should ever get injured for any reason we won't have football or any kind of manly contact sport anywhere ever. We'll all be those wastes of skin playing animated fake life games in our parent's basement instead of living real life and enjoying it.
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National Champion [7638]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 12:11 PM
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Remember........the overall goal is the destruction of Western Civilization, of which College Football is a major part of our tradition in the USA. These radicals on the left will not be satisfied until every tradition, sport, organization, religion and institution we enjoy is destroyed. College football being one of them........a small piece at a time until it is unrecognizable or gone completely.
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Game Changer [1834]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
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Nov 21, 2023, 12:46 PM
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Agreed. Capitalist sports especially. I always call soccer "communist kickball" because of three things. You need no advanced society or capital to play it. All you need is a rolled-up ball of something and two sticks in the ground and you can play soccer. Just like with Marxism, the value in the sport is in all the effort put in and not the output. A score of 1-0 is the norm after playing for two hours. The 3rd part of soccer is that it is all about uniformity. Soccer has no positions for the heavy kids like linemen in football. In fact, if you are big enough to be a linebacker or a good runningback or tight end you are likely too big to play soccer. Everyone in soccer needs to be built like wide receivers, corners, and safeties. You have to fit the communist uniformity or you'll never be considered a serious player. The capitalist sport of football in contrast celebrates diversity as is evident by the sport having a place for everyone. Even that waif of a boy can come out and be a kicker. The heavy kid can be a lineman, the beefy muscled kid can be a linebacker, the thinner fast kids can be wideouts and safeties...on and on.
Socialism just uses diversity as a tool until it gets what it wants and then diversity (real diversity) needs to be eliminated because uniformity is required for the system to work for the elites that enrich themselves from it. Just look at socialistic type people everywhere. They are the ones banning free speech. They are the ones banning things as unsafe. They are the ones invading the privacy of our homes to tell us what we can do or how much of a resource we can use. They are the ones trying to silence anyone with a different opinion (aka diversity) than their own. At the same time, they accuse people who are genuinely for diversity as being a threat to diversity. They charge us for the crimes they commit themselves every single day.
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Rival Killer [2939]
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Nov 21, 2023, 2:03 AM
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I called soccer a "third world sport" and acquaintances in England took offense, telling me that England originated soccer and detailing the history of the sport, which I cared nothing about. I couldn't verbalize what you expressed, but this is why I hate it too.
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Game Changer [1834]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 4:02 PM
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The fourth thing about third-world communist kickball is that it takes away the major physical difference between us and the animals and that is the use of the opposable thumb. Fits into the socialist communist narrative as well because those systems are designed for the majority to be mindless chattel.
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Clemson Conqueror [11756]
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At the very least they should be made the field the ball.
Nov 21, 2023, 12:13 PM
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Just letting it bounce and walking away seems wrong.
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Dynasty Maker [3447]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 12:56 PM
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It won't be long before they do away with them, although it seems to me the punt catch is the more dangerous of the two. why in the world did they eliminate the 2 yard neutral zone around the punt catch?
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Hall of Famer [8360]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 12:58 PM
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It's not the catch that's the concern. It's the full head of steam both teams have running at each other. On a kickoff, all 11 defenders are moving forward before the ball is kicked. On a punt, 0 are doing that, and the majority of the offense has to block before they release downfield.
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 22, 2023, 4:56 PM
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Don't the defensive players keep running and make contact with the defender blockers?
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Hall of Famer [8360]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 22, 2023, 9:07 PM
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They are lined up a yard from each other at a standstill…
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All-In [10143]
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Re: Do away with kickoffs or move the kicker back.
Nov 21, 2023, 3:40 PM
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Everyone should be blindfolded. That would be really fun to watch
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CU Medallion [20924]
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Part of the greater movement to two-hand touch & flag football
Nov 21, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Turning football into a minimized practice and no-contact speed sport not unlike futbol.
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