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I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 12:59 PM
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In a statement issued to its bondholders last Thursday, Reedy Creek pointed out that the 1967 law also includes a pledge from Florida to its bondholders. The law states that Florida "will not in any way impair the rights or remedies of the holders ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any act or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged."...
..."In light of the State of Florida's pledge to the District's bondholders, Reedy Creek expects to explore its options while continuing its present operations, including levying and collecting its ad valorem taxes and collecting its utility revenues, paying debt service on its ad valorem tax bonds and utility revenue bonds, complying with its bond covenants and operating and maintaining its properties," Reedy Creek said.
DeSantis don't want this smoke.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/us/reedy-creek-disney-florida/index.html
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He had to know this would happen, and wanted it to.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:08 PM
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So he gets to put on a big show, have the courts save his ####, then walk away like it never happened.
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Bingo. That's what this is really about.
Apr 27, 2022, 5:19 PM
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Money and a play to Trump's base for his eventual run for President.
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Re: Bingo. That's what this is really about.
Apr 27, 2022, 5:50 PM
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Not according to the article...
Apr 27, 2022, 7:05 PM
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As Josephg's article points out it's Desantis' national rise that is fueling his increased coffers.
"Campaign finance records show many of these donors live outside Florida, with addresses from all corners of the country, including Ohio, Massachusetts, Washington, California, Texas, New York, Colorado, Louisiana, North Carolina and more."
Also:
"So far, DeSantis’ largest donors include some familiar out-of-state billionaires like hedge fund manager Kenneth C. Griffin and shipping magnate Richard Uihlein, both from Illinois, plus Home Depot co-founder Bernard Marcus of Atlanta. Prominent Florida businessmen have also chipped in large sums, including WeatherTech CEO David MacNeil, a Fort Lauderdale resident, and Daytona Beach entrepreneur and philanthropist L. Gale Lemerand."
But maybe what he's doing is popular in the state. But, this isn't evidence for it.
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Re: Not according to the article...
Apr 27, 2022, 7:19 PM
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Apr 27, 2022, 7:35 PM
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Re: He had to know this would happen, and wanted it to.
Apr 27, 2022, 6:08 PM
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Probably. Dude ran with the SEAL's - albeit as their legal advisor - and was a Yale grad and Harvard Law grad. To see him acting like a Trumpite gone full #### reactionary always seemed...strangely un-tactical, for a man of his background. It's just like: is there something in the water at CPAC that causes IQ's to just plummet sharply?
Which means he is playing a role, and does not in fact intend to eviscerate his state's largest employer and biggest cash cow and the thing that puts Florida on the map not just for the USA but for the world.
At some point you have to think he'll pull the ripcord and bail out of this fight. The initial headlines may have suited him, the fallout will not.
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Apr 27, 2022, 10:13 PM
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I dunno...
Apr 28, 2022, 12:52 PM
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I mean, he's probably following one Trump playbook well: Do stuff like this to benefit just himself for a bigger prize and to hell with how it hurts others, even those loyal to you. He'll be happy to leave other Florida GOPers to deal with this fallout if it helps get him to the White House.
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:10 PM
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For sure a reason to get out of this deal with Disney. Would want no part of a corporation holding a state hostage.
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:17 PM
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yep, all the more reason to trash the deal.
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:24 PM
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Good thing the people of Florida have a governor that will stand up to a company that is willing to use its power and money to try to control Florida's legislative process.
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Yeah man...eff free speech.***
Apr 27, 2022, 1:26 PM
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Re: Yeah man...eff free speech.***
Apr 27, 2022, 1:30 PM
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Whose free speech is being violated and how?
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Specifically in this situation...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:34 PM
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This is the State taking action against a private entity over speech it does not like. Legally, I think Disney has a case if they wanted to pursue it. Regardless, however, it's a very unprincipled stand by DeSantis.
On the principle side, corporate speech is free speech, and making one's disappointment with decisions of the government, and taking action to prevent it, is free speech. Having more power in this activity because one has deep pockets doesn't make that speech more or less worthy of protection.
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Re: Specifically in this situation...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:38 PM
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This is a state revoking special privileges of a corporation. There are no gag orders. No one is stopping Disney from saying what it wants. No one is shutting Disney down.
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Oculus Spirit [83130]
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But the action was taken only because of what Disney said
Apr 27, 2022, 1:41 PM
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about the Don't Say Gay bill.
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really
Apr 27, 2022, 2:31 PM
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don't say gay
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Don't be so certain on that
Apr 27, 2022, 1:44 PM
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The Court has interpreted the First Amendment pretty strongly in favor of private citizens over the government if the government is shown to be retaliating based on the speech. I'm not saying Disney will go this route or has that case (they will probably look to other methods before pursuing that), but all they would have to prove is that they were stripped of their agreement due to political speech. And they can (because you also personally know that's the case).
That will be a tough case to win for DeSantis and Florida if it goes that far.
It doesn't have to be about "stopping Disney from saying what it wants". If the government is retaliating for speech in any form, the SCOTUS will likely side with the private entity.
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Re: Don't be so certain on that
Apr 27, 2022, 1:56 PM
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I'm sure Disney will spend a boat load of free speech to buy some elections. And it's their right to do so.
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Oh yeah, you can guarantee that.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:58 PM
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And while that may not ultimately hurt DeSantis on the national level, some Florida boys are going to regret it down the road.
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Re: Oh yeah, you can guarantee that.
Apr 27, 2022, 2:02 PM
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Doesn't matter.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:54 PM
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It's State action, breaking an existing contract and arrangement, based on the content of a private actor's speech. That is bad. That is not conservative. That is not indicative of someone supportive of the First Amendment.
And we've already debated this to death so no reason to do it again, but it's especially laughable given the arrangement they're dissolving was mostly the privatization of government services...which is what conservative should be striving to do.
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Re: I'm sure the Florida people...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:35 PM
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Sounds like a test for November
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I haven't really looked into the details of this and don't
Apr 27, 2022, 2:08 PM
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have a definitive opinion one way or another....but wouldn't a lot of those costs, if not all, be offset with the increase in property taxes Disney would be paying?
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That doesn't seem to be...
Apr 27, 2022, 2:19 PM
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The opinion of the folks running those local governments.
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I mean, it's upsetting the status quo, govt. is always going
Apr 27, 2022, 2:30 PM
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to have their jimmies rustled by that. I also have no doubt many if not all of those folks in local govt. are more or less working on the behalf of Disney. What doesn't jive to me is why Disney would fight something that would reduce their operational complexity, responsibilities, and costs, all while paying off debt and giving them a future scape goat unless there was a LOT more to the story.
I've also never seen or heard of a local govt. NOT wanting more control/ability to tax.
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They would only be allowed to tax Disney at the same flat
Apr 27, 2022, 2:44 PM
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rate as other commercial properties, so from what I've read, it doesn't sound like they'd be able to make up the shortfall even with the amount Disney would be paying. From what I recall, Disney paid the Reedy River district an extra $163 million yearly for services that would not be carried over.
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And that may very well be true. However, color me skeptical
Apr 27, 2022, 2:59 PM
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when I see a local govt. attempting to punt the ability to tax new people/businesses, regardless of how it impacts residents and the county budget. That's like me saying no to an ice cold Coors Light, if I refuse you better be watching your back because I'm up to something.
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It's almost like to get out of a deal...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:30 PM
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With such a powerful, vengeful giant, one might actually consider sitting down and having some real negotiations instead of knee-jerk temper tantrum legislation because said giant doesn't like your education bill.
Which is the reason DeSantis did and you know it is.
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Re: It's almost like to get out of a deal...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:42 PM
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No I don't know this and neither do you. It looks like it's because Disney is trying to control the state of Florida, and your article and your comments lends more credence to that.
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Yes, you do.***
Apr 27, 2022, 1:45 PM
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Re: Yes, you do.***
Apr 27, 2022, 1:50 PM
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Yes you do, no I don't, yes you do, no I don't. It's like talking to a 5th grader.
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It's been made very clear this was the intent
Apr 27, 2022, 1:54 PM
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Even his own allies in the Florida legislature said it. You're being disingenuous. There's absolutely no altruism behind the move. It wasn't even on anyone's radar until the moment Disney opposed him. Then boom, suddenly, revoked at an emergency legislative session.
Okay, man. Just a happy coincidence. C'mon. You look silly claiming that it wasn't about that.
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Re: It's been made very clear this was the intent
Apr 27, 2022, 1:59 PM
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Links to full quotes please
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Re: It's been made very clear this was the intent
Apr 27, 2022, 2:00 PM
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Of all of the people that voted for this
Message was edited by: p6fuller®
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Re: Already did that last week.***
Apr 27, 2022, 2:05 PM
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I know. And the one quote you showed didn't agree with your argument.
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It did.***
Apr 27, 2022, 2:05 PM
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:17 PM
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You are right Cata. Desantis doesn’t have some of the best lawyers at his disposal and NEVER thought of this happening.
You are too smart for this. You stop thinking once they confirm your bias.
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Hold up just one little second here...
Apr 27, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Are you trying to tell me Ron DeSantis has a better legal team than Mickey Mouse?
Oh boy...
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Manac didn't address that. He said everyone has enough
Apr 27, 2022, 7:52 PM
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lawyers to not be surprised by this.
I dont know enough to get into this foot long thread. I do believe that when Disney admittedly decided to get directly involved in Florida politics they gave up the special status expectation, just as you would think they should not be able to try to elect DeSantis.
If BMW tried to take down SC's internal policies, I would hope SC would do the same to them if possible, and I would hope you would agree. Disney and BMW were provided incentives to employ people to make toys and cars. When they use those dollars to effect the state's politics, the state can and should take them away. The population seems to be behind this idea on a non partisan basis.
BTW, this is similar reasoning by which churches cant use tax dollars to get involved in politics, a principle I'm sure you support. Nevertheless, as much as some would like to frame that as a church/state issue, it's not: the ban on political activity is applied to any 501. If a church gives back its 501 status it can say what it likes. With the increased standard deduction a number of churches are not applying for 501 status, for that reason.
As much as some might want to frame the 501 matter as a church/state matter on one hand, or a free speech matter on the other, it is neither. Same with Disney. I don't know what a court will say. But it's not a free speech issue any more than the 501 rules are.
Anyway, tigermanac® was right: DeSantis isn't surprised by this.
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Re: Manac didn't address that. He said everyone has enough
Apr 28, 2022, 12:32 PM
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BTW, this is similar reasoning by which churches cant use tax dollars to get involved in politics, a principle I'm sure you support. Nevertheless, as much as some would like to frame that as a church/state issue, it's not: the ban on political activity is applied to any 501. If a church gives back its 501 status it can say what it likes. With the increased standard deduction a number of churches are not applying for 501 status, for that reason.
I do support it. I see that as a different issue, though, because of First Amendment.
And I'm not saying I'm a fan of the Disney deal overall; however, I get why they did it when they did and I get why it has benefited the public. We've cut deals in SC left and right to set up similar cases, especially under Haley. And it brought a lot of money to the state.
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 1:43 PM
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 3:55 PM
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What, you never took your kids to Disney? The expense is half the fun…
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 27, 2022, 4:01 PM
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We knew this from the get-go.
Apr 27, 2022, 2:37 PM
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It’s been well publicized that they had 1B in debt, which is why most of us said this would never happen.
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The punishment really needs to fit the crime
Apr 27, 2022, 3:13 PM
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Desantis should have to work as a ride operator for the entire summer.
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Re: I done told ya. Disney is gonna play dirty and hard and win.
Apr 28, 2022, 9:58 AM
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Here's a solid write-up of what Florida is facing. I'm guessing DeSantis and the FL GA went through a lot of effort for something that's DOA. But, I'd put my money on this being the plan all along.
"Schumer highlights the well-established case law on this issue, going as far back as a 1866 U.S. Supreme Court case, Von Hoffman v. City of Quincy, which “held that once a local government issues a bond based on an authorized taxing power, the state is contract-bound and cannot eliminate the taxing power supporting the bond.” There is “even greater protection” within the Florida Constitution blocking the state from breaching its contractual obligations to maintain the authorization for RCID’s existence."
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/floridas-contractual-obligations-to-bond-holders-block-repeal-of-disneys-special-taxing-district-says-reedy-creek-in-new-statement/
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Disney has lost.....
Apr 28, 2022, 10:28 AM
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....50 billion in stock LOST in under 60 days.
....over 300K Disney+ subscribers lost in the same time.
Let me give you an alternate view of what's going to happen to Disney:
Disney, currently in massive damage control, will inevitably fire certain members of its MGMT team, specifically the two included in the attachments above. A 50 billion loss is ****** unacceptable to shareholders. The shareholders have a direct correlation to their losses and the MGMT's leaked footage, openly pushing for pro-trans programming in children's shows.
They're in free-fall.
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Heh, no
Apr 28, 2022, 12:41 PM
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The stock price dropped but that's a given when shareholders aren't confident given issues like this. They're Disney. They'll bounce back.
And the 300k loss of subscribers is made up. You're just regurgitating right-wing social media lies.
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Heh, yeah.
Apr 28, 2022, 1:59 PM
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The only person to deny the loss in subscribers are the leftist running...... "politifact"
Already viewed their denial, online.....pretty sure leftist BS is what got Twitter pulled away from you guys. Nothing new here.
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Kind of long but worth a watch/listen
Apr 28, 2022, 2:38 PM
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A discussion from one of the few legal experts who actually specializes and practices special district law in Florida. Me thinks this dude may know a lot more about Reedy Creek and Disney and what is going to happen in the courts than most of the political based noise coming out of the media.
https://youtu.be/ylVbq4gp260
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Re: Kind of long but worth a watch/listen
Apr 28, 2022, 3:31 PM
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Re: Kind of long but worth a watch/listen
Apr 28, 2022, 4:00 PM
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Ruushin disinfermashun
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I'll save you the time.
Apr 28, 2022, 4:24 PM
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You can't find it. Or, maybe you'll have better luck than I did. Secondly, the dude's name is "Andrew Esquire" and he's doing video cast hits for people called "Valiant Renegade" or something like that. Third, most of his social media sites -- the only content that's available for him outside of a sponsored article at the DailyMail -- list his location as South Korea.
Meanwhile, the experts cited in the article I posted are local officials from the impacted counties, and an expert from a firm that, guess what, you can find a site for and is located in Florida.
But hey. I'm sure Andrew Esquire is of enough caliber to be on the Kraken team!
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Spare parts, bud. That's all you guys are.***
Apr 28, 2022, 4:25 PM
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Re: Spare parts, bud. That's all you guys are.***
Apr 28, 2022, 4:40 PM
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I'm not saying he's wrong.
Apr 28, 2022, 6:26 PM
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I don't know enough about the issue to make a judgement on what he's saying. But where there is a conflict, I look to one's credentials to see who might have a better grasp on the topic. In this case we have Disney's attorneys, county officials, and independent lawyers with subject matter knowledge -- against a guy with no credentials other than what he says.
So again. I'm not saying he's wrong, but there is nothing other than his word to say he's even an attorney, much less one who has knowledge of the topic. I remain skeptical.
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Hold up
Apr 29, 2022, 9:00 AM
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This guy is using a fake name and there isn't any evidence of working for an actual law firm, and y'all (even more silly of a response from pfuller) are just going to believe it immediately just because you like what he said?
You know ANYONE can film a YouTube video, use a fake name, and spout a bunch of information and lingo to sound legit.
I could call myself Billy Gearhead and memorize a manual on building engines but that doesn't mean you should take your car to me because I spouted that off on YouTube.
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Re: Hold up
Apr 29, 2022, 9:06 AM
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LOL. T3 continues to cite The Daily Mail as a "news source."
I need to find a left-wing nutjob supermarket tabloid and just start responding with TRUMP MISTRESS GIVES BIRTH TO HALF-ALIEN BABY headlines until it finally dawns on him this makes him looks really dumb and knocks it off.
How do you argue with a Karen who believes The National Enquirer is real news?
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I mean, really
Apr 29, 2022, 9:12 AM
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Who would click on that site and think it's legit? Most of it are just giant pictures of this Esquire ######.
"Andrew Esquire, 34, from Miami, Florida, has been practicing corporate law since 2014 and is now sharing his expertise on TikTok."
Okay, I've heard all I need to hear.
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Re: I mean, really
Apr 29, 2022, 9:17 AM
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What was he wrong about?
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I don't know. That's the problem.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:22 AM
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You don't know. We don't know this guy. He's using a fake name, getting clickbait articles on Daily Mail, and he's sharing his expertise on TikTok, and we're supposed to just assume he's a legitimate source?
C'mon. You're smarter than that.
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Re: I don't know. That's the problem.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:29 AM
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Did you watch the video?
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Re: I don't know. That's the problem.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:31 AM
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I'm not assuming he's a legit source. I don't know if he's right or wrong, or just arguing one side of a case.
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He might be 100 percent right.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:40 AM
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He might be 100 percent in the know. But he's already lost us when he can't even give us his real name and he's associated with all this weird fringe stuff.
Really legit lawyers don't have to do this ####.
If I showed up to your house dressed as a clown and calling myself Bubbles, and I went into this long sales pitch about how switching to solar would save you a ton in energy costs, I might be 100 percent right and have all of my facts straight and this might be the right decision for you.
But are you going to buy from me? Or even give me five minutes of your time?
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Re: I mean, really
Apr 29, 2022, 9:36 AM
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Does it kill people to validate their sources? And I've seen this even among tabbyplague, who is distinctly not a dummy and whose actual-military-mind reports on Ukraine I look forward to as much as any poster on this site. But whoo, doggy, the Boomers in particular just cannot get their minds around this concept called "fake news". I mean, they teach grade-school kids in Finland how to evaluate bias and what's misinformation and disinformation and how to check for ownership and source reliability, we just have, like, zero media literacy in the US right now. And it's killing us.
In the last three days or so, I've seen various posters citing articles from Zubu Brothers - which turned out to be an Ethiopion news aggregate site, seemingly for right-wing lunacy, some nutjob obscuroid Canadian outfit that came across like a Canuck had watched too much Fox News, then huffed a vial or two of crack, Daily Mail - T3 continues to insist it's legit, and throws up each headline with great gusto and crows victoriously at us every time he does it, while we just sort of cover our eyes because it's that embarrassing for him - and, oh, yeah, this one article that started much of the recent avalanche rolling, TFIGlobal. Which turned out to be the news offering of The Frustrated Indian, a "right-arm" - meaning, right-wing, in Indian slang - Facebook group so batsh!t they make The Epoch Times seem sane.
Like, wow, man. I'm almost longing for the days we were just dealing with Russian disinformation.
https://www.facebook.com/TheFrustratedIndian/ The Frustrated Indian The Frustrated Indian, Noida. 1,196,910 likes · 14,137 talking about this. Right Arm, Round the Nation Fast. The Frustrated Indian began its journey in...
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Re: I mean, really
Apr 29, 2022, 9:48 AM
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One of the problems is, most of our "mainstream" news outlets (outside Fox, which is right wing biased) is so biased towards leftists on just about every issue. This is plain to see, so people start looking for other sources. And a lot of these sources are garbage. Another issue I am seeing is, anything or anyone that disagrees with a leftist ideology is either called or implied to be a tyrant or some sort of Russian actor.
I mean, Elon Musk is an authoritarian now?
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Re: I mean, really
Apr 29, 2022, 9:54 AM
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There actually are a lot of centrist sources, p6fuller.
When I watch straight news, I've started watching News Nation. The difference from CNN or Fox will jump out at you after two minutes of watching. Straight reporting, straight down the middle, lacks sensationalist headlines.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsnation/ NewsNation Now LEAST BIASED These sources have minimal bias and use very few loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or
There's actually quite a lot of these kind of sources out there. I mean, you can argue with MBFC, and conservatives especially seem to like to, but MBFC are willing to p!ss off both CNN and Fox equally, so to me that says a lot about them.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/ CNN LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/ Fox News (foxnews.com) RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may
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There are myriad sources outside the mainstream media
Apr 29, 2022, 10:00 AM
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who work for think tanks, or have their own substacks for publication, that are well respected and highly credentialed. This is where Twitter is an exceptional piece of information aggregation.
I have no need to tune into Fox/CNN, or check out NYT, and I would consider myself very well versed on today's news. Overall what you're doing is pulling in news, and then using your own brain to determine what is real and what is not. A big part of this is avoiding confirmation bias from bunk sources.
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Re: Kind of long but worth a watch/listen
Apr 29, 2022, 9:15 AM
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actually he is wrong about Disney people using tax payer roads, and ot paying impact fees. they use toll roads that are not owned by the state. Florida sold off most of its road improvement projects to he private sector, sorry, too lazy to look this up, to keep taxes down in lieu of paying toll roads to a foreign company. We have what is called Sunshine pass, those are not owned by the state. Anything within 10 miles of Disney is a series of toll roads, which the repairs are paid for by the private sector.
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But Balm, he's a TikTok lawyer.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:23 AM
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He uses the name ESQUIRE. He's trustworthy.
Excuse me while I go perform surgery on myself with a video made by Matthew Doctor.
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Re: But Balm, he's a TikTok lawyer.
Apr 29, 2022, 9:34 AM
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It seems like Disney's autonomy is a conservative/ libertarian's wet dream, what is going here in Bizzaro Tnet in applauding the state for picking winners and losers? And just wait until the State building inspectors get their hands on Epcot, but that won't happen, this is just a dog and pony show. Desantis is not this stupid.
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We really need...
Apr 29, 2022, 9:37 AM
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Some political ideology professional development for this board because a lot of "conservatives" really don't get the economic/small government/individual liberty side...
But hey, them there Floriduh GOP boys are shuttin' down them woke trannies over at Disney so hell yeah, brother!
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Populists, pure and simple.
Apr 29, 2022, 10:03 AM
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I thought it was going to die out with Santorum's fading light, but I was wrong. Whole new era for Big Government economics, and Bible Belt social policy.
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