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Orange Blooded [2025]
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So students can get season tickets in lower deck for $225
Apr 17, 2016, 9:38 PM
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and they are complaining? Seriously?
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Orange Blooded [2025]
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I would love that deal........... add it into the tuition!!
Apr 17, 2016, 9:41 PM
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Letterman [285]
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No, Alumni are complaining for multiple reasons...
Apr 17, 2016, 11:15 PM
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1) This decision could negatively impact our pipeline of future donors. There are repercussions that should be considered. Smart money should focus on turning students into life-long Clemson fans.
2) Part of what I pay for in season tickets is about the atmosphere. I want a rockin' crazy student section. Tarnishing this negatively impacts fans (and players).
3) Many other schools who have implemented these types of changes have incurred a decline in their student sections.
- https://t.co/NX25z0jyHf
- https://t.co/Ij8OmaawFy
- https://t.co/NVbXGvlSnd
- https://t.co/9BVDJt21NN
The students aren't upset, but the Alumni who are looking at the bigger picture are.
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Orange Blooded [2025]
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Why would they stop coming? This is a great deal.... ask any
Apr 17, 2016, 11:27 PM
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fan!
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CU Guru [1027]
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I have a feeling that you are the type
Apr 17, 2016, 11:48 PM
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Of fan that has his life together. Sure, as a fan and not a broke college student, I would love that price for a season ticket. Now, if i were given free tickets and then was told that I have to pay $225 that I don't have as a college student to have a seat (top deck sucks, let's be honest), I would be pretty upset.
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Commissioner [1261]
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Re: I have a feeling that you are the type
Apr 17, 2016, 11:59 PM
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Nothing is "free". I paid 33k tuition a year in out of state fees. Better be included with.
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CU Guru [1027]
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Re: I have a feeling that you are the type
Apr 18, 2016, 12:06 AM
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Ok. I think you know what I mean.
Call it complementary.
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Letterman [285]
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Data says otherwise
Apr 18, 2016, 1:48 AM
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Why has this lowered student attendance? To be clear, the universities do sell all of the tickets, so the money is gained. The problem is schools consistently see about a 20% drop in student attendance by year three.
There are various reasons, but when you can't sit next to your friends, can't take a date, a large chunk of your friends don't go, etc. it's not as fun.
Let's also point out that being a first timer on the hill is insanely better than seeing the game from the upper deck. They are two totally different experiences!
My point is other schools have instituted these and they have resulted in students being less involved. The scarier part is this has resulted in lower donations from graduates compared to previous years (looking at similar age groups prior to implementation). Granted there aren't more than about 10 years of data for this so it could easily be economy related.
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Standout [226]
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Re: Data says otherwise
Apr 18, 2016, 10:46 PM
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This! ^^
If the answer is to charge students for tickets then we are asking the wrong question.
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110%er [5330]
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Associate AD [1095]
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Did you read those articles? The only correlations they made to students
Apr 18, 2016, 1:17 PM
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Not attending games had to do with either a perceived weak opponent, the time of the game being an early kick, or students wanting to have wifi and watch it on TV. Nowhere do they mention the price of a ticket being a factor in students not attending games. Hell, the problems they outline in these articles, we have seen them for years.
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Letterman [285]
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Clemson Icon [27766]
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No doubt, to many students the fee won't be a problem. There
Apr 18, 2016, 5:55 AM
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will be some who simply can't afford it despite the relative affluence of our society.
That ongoing discussions are now occurring between the administration and students begs the question, why weren't they held before the announcement? Rather, it appears the plan was tossed out along with a number to gauge reaction, and to me that's bass ackwards.
If the plan ensues, then I believe every student, despite each's financial circumstances, should have an equal opportunity to engage, even in the form of deferred payments, if necessary. Otherwise, there are the free tickets for those who opt out.
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Scout Team [156]
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Re: No doubt, to many students the fee won't be a problem. There
Apr 18, 2016, 6:47 AM
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Costs of running big time college football exploding.
How about NCAA imposition of coaching staff salary caps?
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Commissioner [1273]
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Re: So students can get season tickets in lower deck for $225
Apr 18, 2016, 6:59 AM
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Yup! Same thing I was thinking.
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110%er [4090]
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amen!! $250 for lower area tix is an incredible
Apr 18, 2016, 7:16 AM
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Bargain. Do they realize how much one must give to Iptay to have seats like that after graduation? Incredible bargain!
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Letterman [285]
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No and they never will
Apr 18, 2016, 10:12 PM
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Schools who implement ticket prices like this see less alumni joining programs like IPTAY.
Thus thousands of students never understand the incredible deal... b/c they end up not caring about football. Oh and this also proves to negatively impact general donations.
But other schools are doing this (only a few have switched back to free) and so it MUST be a brilliant idea!
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CU Guru [1341]
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Re: So students can get season tickets in lower deck for $225
Apr 18, 2016, 7:33 AM
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Well, I’ve been reading the comments and rebuttals for the last several days on student ticket prices. Obviously, there are many different types of people that go to the ball games, from various socio-economic levels.
On the one hand, you have the Iptay members that pay thousands of dollars just for the opportunity to buy season tickets, wondering what all the fuss is about for paying $32 to attend a Clemson Football Game. Then you have the students. Yes, there are many that work to pay their way through Clemson, but the majority come here on Scholarships and /or have Mom and Pop pay for practically everything they have (tuition, books, car, allowance, apartment, etc.). Myself, I was at Clemson in the early 70’s, got $10.00 a week in the mail every Friday to live on, so I probably would have never made a game back then if we had to pay.
The best alternative would be to add $5.00 to the price of each game ticket. This would pay for all the seats in the student sections and Clemson would still receive the revenue it’s looking for. Don’t get me wrong, it already costs me about $1000 per game for the wife and I each year, so I really don’t need to keep adding to that cost, but with what we already spend on Clemson Football, $5.00 per game is minimal knowing the students can come and enjoy the football season.
You also have to remember that DRad is here for two reasons, create revenue and spend it as fast as he can. His legacy will be to build as much as he can at Clemson and raise as much revenue in the process. It’s all about the money.
Anyway, hope they come to a reasonable solution.
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Valley Protector [1411]
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Will this now open a secondary market for selling/buying
Apr 18, 2016, 9:12 AM
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lower deck tickets?
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Letterman [285]
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Only to other students
Apr 18, 2016, 10:13 PM
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However, they are still debating on how this will be implemented.
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