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DeLOLantis
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May 18, 2023, 3:22 PM
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Whoops. DeSantis costs Florida $1 billion in lost economic development, and I'm guess this is just the start.
In March, Disney called Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida “anti-business” for his scorched-earth attempt to tighten oversight of the company’s theme park resort near Orlando. Last month, when Disney sued the governor and his allies for what it called “a targeted campaign of government retaliation,” the company made clear that $17 billion in planned investment in Walt Disney World was on the line.
“Does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxes, or not?” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, said on an earnings-related conference call with analysts last week.
On Thursday, Mr. Iger and Josh D’Amaro, Disney’s theme park and consumer products chairman, showed that they were not bluffing, pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando. It would have brought more than 2,000 jobs to the region, with $120,000 as the average salary, according to an estimate from the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/business/disney-ron-desantis-florida.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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Do not EFF
May 18, 2023, 3:28 PM
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with the Mouse.
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I would not be putting my money on DeSantis in the FL
May 18, 2023, 3:29 PM
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primary.
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Rhonda Santis’ nightmares are Mickey in rainbow
May 18, 2023, 3:52 PM
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colored shorts and sequins. Fabulouth!
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Lol. I’m not surprised that Disney “covered” for the pulled project;
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May 18, 2023, 3:32 PM
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their main business is fantasy; after all.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Disney's not exactly setting the world on fire right now,
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May 18, 2023, 3:32 PM
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and parks are what's driving their profit. Given the Bud Light backlash, they may want to tread carefully here too. I wouldn't say either party has the upper hand at the moment.
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They're not, but they're torching his campaign.***
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May 18, 2023, 3:33 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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That's what we're told, but again we'll see
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May 18, 2023, 3:47 PM
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Being more or less the front runner for the Republican nomination for awhile now, he's been target #1 for media propaganda so far. Which frankly might work out if someone else can fly under the radar and scoop up the Pub nomination before our Goebbels-esque media can adjust.
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I hate to show you the polls, but...
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May 18, 2023, 4:13 PM
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He is way, way behind Trump. Like getting destroyed by Trump.
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Disney has a vastly more sticky brand that's already
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May 18, 2023, 3:37 PM
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withstood Christian Right boycotts. Right Snowflakes may not think much about switching pisswater beers because they're triggered, but much harder thing to tell your kids "No more Disney+ and we're not going to Disney world because we're taking a stand!"
Whatever economic turbulence Disney is suffering, it is most certainly not because of some "culture war" fight.
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Two kinds of people like Disney; kids and pedophiles.***
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May 18, 2023, 3:39 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Are you sure about that? Two straight quarters with a drop
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May 18, 2023, 3:44 PM
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in subscribers, I guess we'll see. I think many of you underestimate the amount of 'fed up' that's in the air just because you don't necessarily care.
Not to mention, with household debt skyrocketing those trips to Disney World may not be financially feasible anymore, so it may not all be culture war related, but they're not exactly in a position of strength either.
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My point was culture war related.
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May 18, 2023, 3:50 PM
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Of course Disney is going to be affected by economic trends every other business is facing.
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There you go buddy; you figured it out.
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May 18, 2023, 3:57 PM
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Nice of Disney to try to blame DeSantis though. Looking out for their ESG future.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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It's hurting other brands, why do you think they would be
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May 18, 2023, 3:59 PM
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immune? Like I said, Disney+ has lost subscribers for 2 quarters in a row now.
I'd also add they're probably more susceptible to a boycott than they ever have been before, lots of competition for children's content out there now. When I was growing up you were more or less confined to Disney movies/shows, that's not the case now.
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Re: Disney has a vastly more sticky brand that's already
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May 18, 2023, 4:19 PM
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You don’t think parents can tell their kids “no Disney?” Parents who act like parents will have no trouble doing so.
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Re: Disney has a vastly more sticky brand that's already
May 18, 2023, 11:18 PM
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Sadly, there are plenty of good parents who are still not aware of Disney Corp’s role as a social driver in the sexualizing of children.
This is especially true for dual income families.
The kids want to go to Disney, and the parents say ‘why not’?
Same situation with public schools, except that the schools have far more ‘touch points’ than Disney to bring the schools’ groomer activities to the parents’ attention.
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Re: I like Disney and will take my kids and grandkids there
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May 18, 2023, 4:30 PM
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Lots of parents today have trouble saying no. My parents never got the memo that “no” is taboo.
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But, to be fair, Keowee likes to project insecurities.***
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May 18, 2023, 4:33 PM
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I would never go without my children or grandchildren
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May 18, 2023, 5:24 PM
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I like it for them not me. I wish they could experience what I did 50-60 years ago, but it's still a great place to go. I do wish they would up the cost to get rid of more of the low lifes.
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Re: Disney's not exactly setting the world on fire right now,
May 18, 2023, 9:51 PM
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Lakebum1® wins the ‘smart post’ award for this Disney / DeSantis thread.
Office parks are not a very good development investment at this time.
Disney can pompously posture that their decision to pull the plug on their $1B office complex is because of Big Bad DeSantis.
B.S.
Disney realizes this project is not smart for now, and therefore the prudent business decision is to delay it.
DeSantis is their straw man.
Disclaimer: I’m not a huge DeSantis supporter.
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Re: DeLOLantis
May 18, 2023, 3:48 PM
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pulling the plug on a nearly $1 billion office complex that was scheduled for construction in Orlando.
I can't read the article. Does it say where they are moving it to, or are they shelving it?
Because there is a difference.
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Dang 120k average salary for office jobs
May 18, 2023, 4:22 PM
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that's pretty good considering how mediocre average is.
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They should've said $500,000. Really stick the knife in Ronnie.***
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May 18, 2023, 4:38 PM
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LOL at Disney
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May 18, 2023, 4:36 PM
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$1B office complex? Disney is struggling as it is, there's no way they were seriously considering spending that kind of coin for office space.
It's posturing, just like Desantis is doing.
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According to Disney, some people have already relocated
May 18, 2023, 5:21 PM
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to Florida and others have quit because they did not want to relocate.
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Re: DeLOLantis
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May 18, 2023, 4:43 PM
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Personally, I doubt this had a thing to do with DeSantis and is 99% the fault of changing business conditions.
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They say that tax cuts were jerked out from under them
May 18, 2023, 5:19 PM
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that might be enough to stay in California.
Desantis watched what AOC did in NYC with Amazon and agreed with the concept.
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Re: They say that tax cuts were jerked out from under them
May 18, 2023, 11:35 PM
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With CA being such a business-unfriendly state, let’s see if Disney is using their very recently announced plan to expand at their historical Anaheim site (I.e., Disneyland Forward) turns out to be anything like what they had wanted to do in Orlando.
I think that this is a (relatively cheap … from Disney’s perspective) bluff.
(*). Disney’s bluff will probably work unless DeSantis has learned his lesson to not understand the manipulative power of Disney on local politics. If DeSantis blinks and caves to Disney, then he’ll have forfeited the high moral ground that he has established for himself. This high moral ground is the foundation for his candidacy for POTUS.
If DeSantis doesn’t blink, then he’ll win. CA is just the wrong place for nearly any business to expand. FL is a bazillion times better investment location.
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Re: DeLOLantis
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May 18, 2023, 7:05 PM
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Sounds like something they decided not to build for other reasons and thought they would pretend it was Desantis' fault so morons would think they were sticking it to him, when the reality is the exact opposite. Keep pumping out those ###### movies Disney and you'll be canceling even more projects you can blame on Desantis. They certainly know how stupid their supporters are. Have to grant them that.
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Re: DeLOLantis
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May 18, 2023, 7:42 PM
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Disney also announced they are shutting down their Star Wars hotel. Guess if they told you it was because of Desantis you'd believe that as well, as opposed to them destroying perhaps the most valuable intellectual property of all time. Great work you woke pieces of garbage.
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may be smart on their part
May 18, 2023, 8:26 PM
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With Desantis'new immigration bill, nothing is going to get built down here.
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Re: may be smart on their part
May 18, 2023, 9:58 PM
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With Desantis'new immigration bill, nothing is going to get built down here.
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