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110%er [5713]
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OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 3:53 PM
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Will be attempting to smoke my first brisket flat this week. It weighs 6.5 pounds before trimming.
I would appreciate your suggestions on smoking temperature, time it will take, type wood, marinade, rub, to wrap or not, et cetera.
Any ideas would be most helpful.
TIA
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All-In [10404]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 3:58 PM
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Put a Bluetooth probe in it and wrap in heavy duty foil at 180. Put it back on the smoker and take it off to rest between 190-195. Be careful because if it overcooks it’s a worthless piece of meat.
Mesquite is best for beef.
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All-In [10404]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:05 PM
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One other thing if you have leftover meat chop it up on a cutting board and add to the last hour of cooking pintos. Brisket pintos, cornbread, and chow chow makes for a fine meal watching football in the fall.
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:00 PM
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Yall's love hate relationship is pretty funny.
It even happens when someone is playing with meat.
Brisket is pretty easy to cook. Leave the fat on unless too much. Fat gives flavor and can remove later. Seare it on hot grill, gas probably. Then smoke low 200 for around 1-2hrs. I like mine rear because i can always add more heat. Light external rub of seasoning, if thick then light crosshatch slices to push rub into.
Put a pan underneath for juices to baste and use later. Put cooked meat in foil on cookie sheet for 30-45min, save that juice for the other juice. Makes great au jus
Brisket is very easy to cook, just dont overcook. Can always cook longer but if overcooked its ruined.
Remember the room temp rule. Refridge cold changes cooking time but it can aid in keeping center rear if you start cooking when cold. Versus cooking a butt that starts at fridge temp is a negative to long slow cook.
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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I neither love nor hate either.
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:06 PM
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I do feel sorry for one in a "don't turn out like this guy" kinda way.
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110%er [5713]
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Ultimate Tiger [35072]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:44 PM
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I hope you burn the #### out of it.
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110%er [5713]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 6:27 PM
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Children will be children. But this one is merely a thin skinned brat.
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Ultimate Tiger [35072]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 6:29 PM
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You talk crap to everyone else who posts non football material on the football board. Yet here you are doing it. You are a hypocrite! This is why you are universally disliked.
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 8:02 PM
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TattedCop®, welcome to being ignored and followed, simultaneously.
Cheers.
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Ultimate Tiger [35072]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 8:15 PM
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I am sure he will be passive aggressively calling me out on the donors board tomorrow from his basement.
I try to get along with everyone, but this guy is a a-hole. Even I can see it with one eye.
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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It's not you...
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Aug 13, 2023, 8:18 PM
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Narcissism is the leading issue, followed by severe guilt, likely depression and, perhaps, senility.
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Orange Phenom [14598]
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I'm a member of that club
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:45 AM
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No idea what i did to get under his skin.
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Clemson Icon [26456]
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: Use this
Aug 14, 2023, 2:33 PM
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Meater works fine, but before anyone purchases one, check out the ChefIQ. I sent my Meater back. The CHEFIQ literally does everything better, for cheaper. Longer range, higher Temps, longer battery life.....Meater just captured the market because they're marketing was awesome. Cool name. Like Yeti.
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Ultimate Tiger [34248]
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Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:08 PM
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It's getting hot in here! - Tense like, nothing perverted, just sayin
Message was edited by: BigAl31®
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All-In [10404]
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Re: Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:14 PM
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I love putting meat on the smoker hiding the failures and discussing success.
I don’t mind sharing with 1972 if he’s cordial in response.
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Re: Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:17 PM
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Better luck next post then...
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Ultimate Tiger [34248]
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bowlhunter had some good ideas, Bbo amened it***
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:16 PM
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110%er [5713]
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Re: bowlhunter had some good ideas, Bbo amened it***
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:28 PM
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Don’t trust them!
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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Too late. He already gave me his SS # and Wi-Fi password.***
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:04 PM
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Re: Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:52 PM
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I surely wouldn't, but I hate corn bread, I just don't like it
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Campus Hero [13361]
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Re: Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:58 PM
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What kind of cornbread are we talking about? Some I have had, I wouldn't break with anyone. But give me some with hot cast iron skillet with can of creamed corn, jalapeños and cheese! Then I will break some bread witch-ya!
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Clemson Icon [26456]
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110%er [5713]
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Re: Dang, a thread with 1972 Tiger, bowlhunter, and BbO
Aug 13, 2023, 8:45 PM
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Done
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Valley Legend [12697]
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Not very experienced, but I had good luck recently...
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:10 PM
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Did a 4 lb one on my Kamado Joe.
Just mixed my own rub from internet recipes. (Salt, black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, brown sugar, paprika, ground mustard, cayenne, etc.) Used olive oil as binder...mustard is too dang messy.
Smoked fat side down at 225F. Mainly oak with a little mesquite.
Hit stall at about 3.5 hrs. Took it off at 4 hrs, wrapped with about 1/4-cup of Stubb's Beef Marinade (See below).
Put in the oven at 275F to get past stall. Took out at about 201F and let it rest for about 45 minutes.
You won't get great bark this way, but the flavor and tenderness will be awesome.
https://www.amazon.com/Stubbs-Beef-Marinade-12-oz/dp/B000WH7DVA/ref=sr_1_3?hvadid=616857465789&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010755&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=1738000386350912281&hvtargid=kwd-5561507795&hydadcr=4846_13263297&keywords=stubbs+beef+marinade&qid=1691957231&sr=8-3
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110%er [5713]
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Re: Not very experienced, but I had good luck recently...
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:13 PM
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Thank you for your reply!
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Valley Legend [12697]
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Another tip...
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:27 PM
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With all smoked meats, I wrap it in towels and put in a cooler while resting.
You want it to rest warm...not cool off on top of the stove.
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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Valley Legend [12697]
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Everyone has a different opinion on this...
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:20 PM
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The fat side down folks think the fat on the bottom holds in the meat juices.
Since there's no consensus, I doubt it matters.
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Heisman Winner [80102]
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Agreed. The "logic"
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:25 PM
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I'm fat side up is distribution of the fat as it cooks by way of gravity. I have seen far more folks say fat cap down.
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110%er [5713]
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Stopped pulling on those Kool Menthols years ago.***
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:14 PM
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Re: Stopped pulling on those Kool Menthols years ago.***
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:59 PM
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I gave up on being a Marlboro Man close to 15 years ago, that was the best idea I had that day, and I'm still glad I did!!!!!
There is one thing that a smoker best not try, and that's telling a non smoker that they don't smoke, we can smell them 100 feet away!!!
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Orange Blooded [2309]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:25 PM
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I use hickory wood and smoke at 225. I make my own rub with brown sugar, salt, black pepper, paprika, garlic and onion powder, red pepper, chili powder and cumin. I rub with mustard and the spice rub the night before.
I'll smoke it about 5-6 hours, until it's about 170 degrees. Seems to always stall about there.
Then I wrap in foil and put it back in, still at 225. Usually takes about 3 hrs. to get to 195. I take it off then and rest for about an hour.
The first couple of times I did brisket I spritzed it a couple of times with apple juice during the smoke, but can't tell that that adds anything. Haven't done it since.
It is really good.
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110%er [5713]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:30 PM
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Great advice. Thank you so much!!
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Valley Legend [12697]
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Cumin & chili powder are good...
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:36 PM
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A sprinkle of Italian herbs, or just oregano is also good.
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:33 PM
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Some people wrap in foil. I use butcher paper. I think it give a kittle better bark but that's just me. And in reality probably not much different. If you want crispy bark then you have to unwrap early then put bCk on to finish. After I wrap I stick it in the oven if im having issues with temp control because no smoke is getting to the meat anyway. If you need to make up time it is OK to crank up the heat a bit more after wrapping to speed things up. It won't dry out. Make sure you rest that brisket to let the juices redistribute throughout the meat. I take the wrapped brisket and wrap it in a towel or two and put it in a cooler. Can st in there a couple hours.
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 4:58 PM
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Make sure it is the exact size you need. 6.5 Lbs. should feed 13 people. If that is too large for what you need, cut accordingly to 1/2 Lb. per person and freeze what is not needed before cooking. Always remember that leftover cooked brisket will make good soles for shoes.
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:32 PM
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Leftover cooked brisket is amazing. What are you talking about. There really must be a lot of people making a lot of subpar briskets to say that. How you reheat it is critical. I vacuum seal mine in portions for me for a dinner 3/4 pound, about 2-3 slices, and just pull out of the freezer whenever I want brisket, and boil the whole vacuum bag from frozen in boiling water on the stove for 25 mins. It's as good as when it's sliced. Sometimes I think it's better.
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Rival Killer [2780]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
Aug 14, 2023, 10:28 AM
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Freezing raw meat in a traditional freezer is bad. Ice crystal form slowly and lacerate cell walls. This will cause a lot of the water to come out of the brisket; something that is extremely bad for smoking
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
Aug 14, 2023, 2:35 PM
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If you were replying to me, I meant after it's cooked and sliced. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Listen to Cheetah - he’ll never steer you wrong
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:29 PM
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Brown sugar? Tell us you don't know how to smoke brisket without telling us you don't know how to smoke brisket. He needs to stick to rapping and hand puppets
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Orange Blooded [2209]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:06 PM
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I've done many on my real wood smoker. Make sure you apply the rub and wrap it tightly in suran wrap a day before. The brisket will really draw in the flavor. I smoke mine to 195 to slice and push it 205 to pull. A good homeade marinade baste every 2 hours or so doesn't hurt. I never have used the foil wrap method ( called a Texas crutch), but if your flat has minimal fat content it would protect it from becoming too dry. Good luck and buy plenty of beer. The cook needs hydration
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Ultimate Tiger [35072]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 5:46 PM
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This is not a football related post. How dare you? You are the first one to critisize others for posting on the football board non football related posts. I hope you burned the crap out of your food.
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 13, 2023, 9:25 PM
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People are going to tell you what they do. But generally speaking, the top people in Texas all do roughly the same thing, outside of wrap or now wrap, and what form of wrap they do. Salt and pepper is mainly what people use. Some may use a garlic powder, some lawrys, some use some other stuff, but salt and pepper is 99% of it.
A flat kinda sucks to do alone, because it's notoriously harder to do right. People buy then because it's cheaper overall, but they don't realize the price per pound is dramatically higher. Costco or Sam's prime brisket is really hard to beat for the quality to price ratio.
But you have a flat, so that's what you've got now. You can smoke at different Temps and it will work just fine, but I'd prefer a lower temp (225) for the flat only. There's no think deckel fat to render out. Time will take care of intramuscular fat and the fat cap will get yellow and sticky with time and rest. I'd just throw it on the smoker with a water pan (help keep a little moisture in the cooking chamber) and after 1-2 hours spritz it with liquid. And no, the liquid really doesn't matter. But only try to spritz the meat, not the fat. You want the fat to render with heat, not cool it off. At around 170ish (use that term loosely because different smokers have different airflow, which creates bark) look at the bark and determine when you have enough color. When you do, wrap it tightly in butcher paper (tallow brushed on the paper helps) and back on the smoker. Or you can wrap it in a foil "boat" to keep the liquid in.
When it hits AROUND 195, start probing every 15-30 minutes for tenderness, NOT temp. People get this wrong all the time. Temp is only a loose metric for tenderness. I've had briskets finish at 195. Some at 210. Plus, thermometer accuracy also.
When it gets truly probe tender, which is zero resistance going in and coming out, pull it. Open the butcher paper/foil, and let it sit for 10-15 minutes until it's stopped rising in temp. Then wrap it back up, and rest as long as you can hold it over 140-150 degrees. Hours. This is arguably the most important part.
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
Aug 13, 2023, 10:03 PM
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People are going to tell you what they do. But generally speaking, the top people in Texas all do roughly the same thing, outside of wrap or now wrap, and what form of wrap they do. Salt and pepper is mainly what people use. Some may use a garlic powder, some lawrys, some use some other stuff, but salt and pepper is 99% of it.
A flat kinda sucks to do alone, because it's notoriously harder to do right. People buy then because it's cheaper overall, but they don't realize the price per pound is dramatically higher. Costco or Sam's prime brisket is really hard to beat for the quality to price ratio.
But you have a flat, so that's what you've got now. You can smoke at different Temps and it will work just fine, but I'd prefer a lower temp (225) for the flat only. There's no think deckel fat to render out. Time will take care of intramuscular fat and the fat cap will get yellow and sticky with time and rest. I'd just throw it on the smoker with a water pan (help keep a little moisture in the cooking chamber) and after 1-2 hours spritz it with liquid. And no, the liquid really doesn't matter. But only try to spritz the meat, not the fat. You want the fat to render with heat, not cool it off. At around 170ish (use that term loosely because different smokers have different airflow, which creates bark) look at the bark and determine when you have enough color. When you do, wrap it tightly in butcher paper (tallow brushed on the paper helps) and back on the smoker. Or you can wrap it in a foil "boat" to keep the liquid in.
When it hits AROUND 195, start probing every 15-30 minutes for tenderness, NOT temp. People get this wrong all the time. Temp is only a loose metric for tenderness. I've had briskets finish at 195. Some at 210. Plus, thermometer accuracy also.
When it gets truly probe tender, which is zero resistance going in and coming out, pull it. Open the butcher paper/foil, and let it sit for 10-15 minutes until it's stopped rising in temp. Then wrap it back up, and rest as long as you can hold it over 140-150 degrees. Hours. This is arguably the most important part.
By far the best response. Costco prime is the best value. I’ve wrapped and not wrapped and when I have the time to push through the stall without wrapping I’ve gotten better bark as a result.
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 14, 2023, 9:01 AM
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Thanks for your knowledgeable reply!!
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
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Aug 14, 2023, 10:20 AM
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6.5 # hunka hunka burnin love!!!!
First off.....as everyone else has said, but CANNOT be overstated... If the meat gets too hot, ( either too close to the flame, too much heat, etc) it'll burn and you have an expense piece of shoe leather
Forget marinade. Unless you vacuum seal the meat with the liquid, you will only get flavor into the first 1/8" of the meat, and thats after 24 hrs of brining. Vacuum sealing will actually get the flavor throughout the meat. Only way. Thats science.
I like a mix of apple and cherry wood, but the type doesnt matter THAT much, just as long as you use wood and CHARCOAL. Forget the gas. Charcoal imparts more flavor.
The brisket needs to be above a pan of water. Dont care how you do it, but there needs to be the moisture. You can use a combo of water and your favorite alcohol, lime juice, etc, but you need the liquid.
Use high heat to get a good char on the outside... All over. Get it on the grill, in a black iron skillet, whatever, and quickly cook the outside. Turn it repeatedly, rapidly, for a few minutes. This will help keep the blood/juice from being forced out. Heat will cause muscle contraction and force out all the juice if you cook on one side for a long time. Leave the fat on. It will protect the brisket and you can remove later. This IS the flavor.
Low heat. Slow cook it for at least 6 hrs. 8-10 is better. Since its your first time, try to make it at least 2 hrs. You want a thick layer of char on the outside. Realistically, you want the brisket as far from the heat as possible, but maintaining a temp of around 180. The smoke and air flow, with the moisture from your pan of liquid, is what will cook your meat for the 8-10 hrs.
Let me know how it goes
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Asst Coach [830]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
Aug 14, 2023, 10:59 AM
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You don't sear a brisket. Not sure where you learned that, but it wasn't Texas.
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Clemson Conqueror [11917]
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Re: OK all you smokers…………
Aug 14, 2023, 10:43 AM
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I came here for the subject line "all you smokers"
And I'm pretty sure we're talkin about something different though.
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