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Clemson Track Team is Fighting Back

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Mar 14, 2021, 10:08 PM

A class action law suit will be filed by members of the Clemson track team against Clemson University if needed. They have obtained legal counsel. I can't say I blame them. I hope this can be worked out so Clemson can keep the track team.

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On what grounds?***

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Mar 14, 2021, 10:16 PM



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Title IX violation

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Mar 14, 2021, 10:36 PM

229 male athletes to 318 female athletes after dissolution of Mens XC and Track & Field teams won't reflect the overall student body population of 50.01% male students to 49.99% female students.

Clemson will have to dissolve some female athletic teams to get within this balance or keep these men programs to remain in compliance...

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You would think the Clemson Athletic Department

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Mar 14, 2021, 10:38 PM

would have looked into those details before eliminating those teams.

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Mar 15, 2021, 5:22 PM

You better believe the lawyers were involved before this decision was made. If not, somebody should be fired.

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Mar 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

I am a runner and love XC and TF. The athletes need to be careful because DRad will fix this by dropping women’s XCTF as well. The lawsuit also states that this is a racial move by Clemson. Tell that to the dive and swim teams.

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Mar 15, 2021, 3:50 PM

I saw reference to title IX, but this claim wants to paint this as a racial issue.

Maybe the track team should go sell candy bars or have a car wash to raise money.

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Mar 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

but a lever to leverage a view into how it disproportionately affects black male athletes numbers and percentages and secondarily enrollment, hopefully to get the AD to review and reverse the decision to shutter the programs...

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Clemson's 50.1% male 49.9% female? No wonder I couldn't get

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Mar 15, 2021, 4:20 PM

a date.

I'm confident that a full Title IX review was conducted before making the decision, but best of luck to them. Honestly, I was raised on T&F, but the way these people have acted has been pretty off-putting.

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Mar 15, 2021, 8:27 PM

Well, there's one thing to say about it...somebody's gotta do something.

P.S. We're not giving up the softball team!

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Big picture ........ we don’t care. A LOT of the apathy has


Mar 14, 2021, 10:41 PM

been brought on by the A$$$$$$$$-HATTERY of you track goons.



We don’t care.

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Mar 15, 2021, 7:06 AM

So stupid and a waste of money. Reality is the money isn’t there for it to continue so DRad cut it. If they want to whine about title 9 all will happen is that another sport will be cut.

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Mar 15, 2021, 7:28 AM

First of all I disagree with the cancellation of these programs.XC is the least expensive sport there is of all sports.You do not need a facility. You run on trails and roads. There were only 5 or 6 meets a year.Second I totally disagree with pulling the race card.Third under the new Biden govt. all they have to do is identify as a girl and bam they are back running on the girls teams or they could sue based upon Bidens new policies and Clemson could lose fed funding too.(sarcasm)

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Mar 15, 2021, 9:26 AM

I don’t think this is a good look for either side but what do I know. It sucks but it was a cost cutting move. Now the athletes that probably bring in the least amount of revenue are fighting back. I wonder if the lawyer are working pro bono?
Colleges are all about making money and just like in any other department if you aren’t helping make the money then why should they keep you around. I hate it for the athletes but I don’t think they’re gonna win this race.

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Mar 15, 2021, 4:38 PM

Well then the only sports we would have would be mens football and basketball because all the other sports cost way more than they make especially when you include facilities,equipment,travel,etc.

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Mar 15, 2021, 4:56 PM

I realize this is not a perfect solution, but I wonder if the NCAA could allow track athletes from schools that have dropped the sport to compete as individuals?

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Mar 15, 2021, 4:57 PM

Use some of the money that is made to "Beautify Death Valley" and use it for some other sports. I did not say defund football. I said leave Memorial Stadium alone for awhile. Does this interrupt Dabo's Dream? Well I am sure He cam get more money from the IPTAY corporate members who sit there a watch the games in their fancy booths and make no noise. They will eventually make the Hill into the strip of grass that is between the curb and the sidewalk. You will not be able to see any of campus from the West Endzone. Let us make the place beautiful and without a soul.

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Mar 15, 2021, 5:16 PM

I’m all for XCT&F fighting the demise of the program. When I donate to IPTAY, it’s for all the athletes not just football & basketball. As far as bringing in money; remember the scholar-athlete grew out of intramural sports/P.E. I assume rowing/swimming/tennis/soccer/golf must be making money hand over fist.

This is going to start stinking pretty soon if something doesn’t get worked out.

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Re: rowing/swimming/tennis/soccer/golf must be making money


Mar 15, 2021, 8:36 PM

Sadly we droped swimming about 10 years ago.

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Mar 15, 2021, 7:25 PM

During a normal season I think people go to soccer matches and baseball games as well. If the softball team keeps rolling like they are I think they’ll have nice attendance as well. I’ve never heard someone say they’re going or a college track meet or a golf match so I’m not sure how those could bring in money.

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Actually T+F and XC can generate quote a bit of $$$$

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Mar 15, 2021, 9:23 PM

Many folks don't know we have 1st rate Indoor track, with one of the fastest tracks in the country.
Clemson does a lousy job of marketing it and frankly using it. Our #saveclemsonxctf group has detailed countless and realistic ways to generate more $$$ that it currently does. We are ideally situated between Charlotte and Atlanta and could host literally dozens of meets. There are no other indoor tracks on the I-85 corridor until you get all the way to Winston-Salem.

We just need an AD and Athletic Dept with some imagination.

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Mar 15, 2021, 5:28 PM

It’s truly embarrassing that Clemson will no longer have men’s T&F/XC.

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All about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Mar 15, 2021, 6:42 PM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Re: All about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Mar 16, 2021, 3:15 PM

I thought the Equality Act forbid discrimination based on sex etc. etc.<

True equality can best be served by having only one team in each sport which includes the best players regardless of sex including transgenders etc.etc.
This would also eliminate the $$$$$$ problem that all schools face by the separate but equal policy in sports today.

I would provide an exception for womens softball however!

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Mar 17, 2021, 9:17 AM

With the loss of revenue from football and basketball, there are hard decisions that must be made.
I don’t see a problem with changing the the usage of the indoor track facility to bring in more revenue and the track, field and cross country teams could work to raise revenue for this year and maybe next year. Maybe go to former track stars to ask for one time gifts to continue the program.
If something is really valuable to you, you are willing to sacrifice for it.

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