Replies: 24
| visibility 446
|
All-In [26692]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15951
Joined: 4/12/07
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22331]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7576
Joined: 3/3/99
|
I hate to say it, but I don't even care any more... I can't
Jun 30, 2022, 2:13 PM
|
|
keep up with everything these days... if Greer Orthopedic & Spine Junior College joins the ACC, and Clemson jumps to the Hawaiian LGBTQ Conference along with Furman, Kent St and Santa Clara St... so be it. Eff it. Go all Tigers.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [53243]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 21821
Joined: 11/16/05
|
Re: Mangey: Dat college foosball world bout to get crazy
Jun 30, 2022, 2:22 PM
|
|
The amount of traveling that conference already has to do, this is gonna be one heck of a fuel bill and a lot of flying.
Crazy.
Also, whatever happened to the ACC alignment with those other schools. I know they just dropped divisions, but wasn't there talk about Cinncinnatuh and others playing with the ACC?
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [53243]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 21821
Joined: 11/16/05
|
Found this from espn last year....
Jun 30, 2022, 2:28 PM
|
|
Doesn't sound like a done deal as far as scheduling goes.
The Alliance
ACC Subtractions: none
Additions: none
Future look: Boston College, Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, NC State, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
The Alliance with the Pac-12 and Big Ten has, thus far, done its job by calming the realignment waters for the ACC. The biggest near-term goal for commissioner Jim Phillips, who replaced John Swofford last spring, was simply to buy some time to get a better lay of the land nationally and continue to build trust with the league members. Stability is the buzzword, and between the Alliance and the league's onerous grant of rights, Phillips has it for the time being.
The question then becomes how the ACC can remain competitive with its regional rival in the SEC when that league might ultimately double the ACC's TV contract while enjoying the immense recruiting advantage of being seen as, essentially, a mini-NFL. Worse, if realignment turns into a land war between the SEC and Big Ten, it would be almost impossible for the ACC to avoid being caught in the middle. We're a long way away from that, but Phillips needs to consider the future for the ACC not just in a year or two but a decade or more down the line.
Before the most recent conference shake-ups, the ACC was already thinking about ways to get out of an increasingly bad TV deal that runs through 2036, with expansion the best option. Several league administrators said they thought Texas and Oklahoma could be a good play down the road, but the SEC struck first. Now the list of programs that could genuinely change the economic landscape for the league is probably down to one: Notre Dame.
Any hopes of wooing the Fighting Irish remain distant, at best. With playoff expansion on hold, there's no immediate on-field incentive for Notre Dame to jump, and the league's toxic TV deal means there's no financial reason either. That the ACC's fortunes in 2021 have fallen even further -- marquee teams Clemson, Miami and Florida State are all struggling -- and that the league has yet to broker a deal to get its TV network on Comcast only add to the reasons Notre Dame is in the catbird's seat in any possible talks.
So while the long-term goal might still be to expand, there remains the ever-present concern that the ACC could just as likely lose teams down the road, once the financial calculus begins to even out a bit. Phillips is the calming force for now. He has preached patience with league members, and until another major domino falls, that message appears to be resonating. -- David Hale
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32465132/college-football-conference-realignment-tracker-remaining-questions-next-steps-latest-shake-up%3fplatform=amp
|
|
|
|
|
Oculus Spirit [83127]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 80161
Joined: 11/29/99
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105598]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 65207
Joined: 12/2/02
|
Clemson to the SEC is the eventual progress
Jun 30, 2022, 2:25 PM
|
|
Big Ten & SEC remain, 20-22 teams in each. Everyone else is left out.
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135609]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 91641
Joined: 12/6/98
|
I think what is really going to happen is that Clemson will
Jun 30, 2022, 2:31 PM
|
|
schedule 6 home and 6 away games with Winthrop every season, meaning I'll see 12 regular-season games and only have to drive to Clemson six teams during the season.
DISTRICT THREE STADIUM WILL BE ORANGE AS HECK WHEN WE INEVITABLY DO THIS.
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105598]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 65207
Joined: 12/2/02
|
And leave the York Tech Fighting Skoal Cans no local
Jun 30, 2022, 2:40 PM
|
|
opponents to play?
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135941]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 41647
Joined: 8/26/07
|
Maybe Clover College of Cosmetology Sciences can
Jun 30, 2022, 2:42 PM
|
|
add football?
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [105598]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 65207
Joined: 12/2/02
|
CCCS aint sh*t***
Jun 30, 2022, 3:03 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135609]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 91641
Joined: 12/6/98
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [20573]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8614
Joined: 10/27/00
|
TEE GUH KAY, TEE GUH KAY, TEE GUH KAY
Jun 30, 2022, 3:28 PM
|
|
Has a good ring to it.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [12165]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 17895
Joined: 5/16/00
|
Loosely quoting top gun
Jun 30, 2022, 2:36 PM
|
|
"Come on Phillips, time to do some of that commish $%@#"
Personally, think this increases chances of Clemson to SEC in future
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135941]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 41647
Joined: 8/26/07
|
Need either a 48 or 64 team Div 1 with 4 conferences
Jun 30, 2022, 2:40 PM
|
|
“Mid majors “ can be Div 2 and hold their own championship
Works ok for FCS why not?
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22331]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7576
Joined: 3/3/99
|
Look, the bottom line is... the SEC beat everybody to the punch.
Jun 30, 2022, 2:48 PM
|
|
Gotta give them sumbitches credit, they were always two steps ahead of all the other conferences. The first conference to go all out with no shame and poach other teams and expand. The first one to have a Conference Championship Game. The first one to negotiate massive TV contracts. They always lead... ruthlessly... and sit back and watch all the other conferences try to play catch-up.
I hate their guts, but they have everybody else backed into a tight corner.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [26692]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15951
Joined: 4/12/07
|
Even their own members aren’t safe.
Jun 30, 2022, 4:26 PM
|
|
They are so fed up with USC they’ve started a chain of earthquakes to swallow the whole city up.
|
|
|
|
|
Heisman Winner [135941]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 41647
Joined: 8/26/07
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7004]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2275
Joined: 9/2/21
|
Thanks. I hate it.
Jun 30, 2022, 3:11 PM
|
|
This is all just so so so so so so stupid. Soul-less corporatized, dollar-worshiping ########.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [30195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 31800
Joined: 9/13/01
|
You do know this is 2022, not 1992, right?***
Jun 30, 2022, 3:20 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7004]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2275
Joined: 9/2/21
|
I'm not sure what your point is. Doing this is a choice and
Jun 30, 2022, 3:25 PM
|
|
it is a choice that guts what is good about college football in service of more TV money. The sport is diminished and everyone is worse off except for the corporate overlords.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [30195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 31800
Joined: 9/13/01
|
My point is: Adapt or die
Jun 30, 2022, 3:44 PM
|
|
If USC/UCLA didn't make this move, they would be tied into a ###### TV deal (like Clemson) and won't be able to get out of it. Hence their move.
Tradition in CFB is long lost.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7004]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2275
Joined: 9/2/21
|
I agree on adapt or die. But, IMO, if you lose tradition,
Jun 30, 2022, 3:55 PM
|
|
then you lose cfb. I would rather have a crappy TV deal and traditional rivalries than sell out for money and lose that.
I will be interested to see if this works out for USC & UCLA in any way beyond money. So far, I can't think of a inter-regional conference-transfer that has been good for a program's success (Rutgers, WVU, Nebraska, Maryland).
(Side note: thanks for the reply and I hope by response saying I don't understand your point was not rude.)
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [30195]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 31800
Joined: 9/13/01
|
Those schools you listed below were done purely for money
Jun 30, 2022, 4:08 PM
|
|
Maryland moved because their AD made AWFUL decisions which put them millions of dollars in debt. Needed that sweet B1G money to cover their losses
Rutgers - pretty sure they have no tradition. I live in NJ and no one has ever cared about them since I've lived here
West Virginia - had no choice but to move to the Big XII since no one else would take them when the Big East imploded. Also little to no tradition to speak of.
Nebraska - they are a blueblood program of the 1900s with tradition for days. I don't know their reasons for going to the B1G other than they hated how much sway Texas had in the Big XII. They can't even compete anymore since they have no recruiting base to speak of and no one wants to play or live in Nebraska.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [49175]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 27603
Joined: 8/10/02
|
ahem, WVa has plenty o football tradition.
Jun 30, 2022, 4:24 PM
|
|
they burn couches.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [22331]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7576
Joined: 3/3/99
|
Agreed, but it's still sad that it's come to this... or I'm
Jun 30, 2022, 11:16 PM
[ in reply to Those schools you listed below were done purely for money ] |
|
just old. The old conference alignments were great, and existed for decades, some for a century. You knew the PAC 10 had Sou Cal, UCLA, Stanford, Wash, Oregon, etc. The Big 8 was Neb, Okla, OK St & the Kansas schools. The Southwest conference had Tex, Tex A&M, Tex Tech, Ark, Baylor, etc. The Big 10 had Mich, Ohio St, Mich St, Purdue, etc. We all know the history of the ACC. All of the conferences made sense geographically, and there were countless rivalries that were soaked in tradition. And the wild-card independents like Notre Dame & FSU...
The original SEC before expansion was powerful enough, they didn't need to add more schools except for the money grab and create a super-conference that would basically destroy all the others.
Like playing Risk and starting out with North America... and then getting Australia.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 24
| visibility 446
|
|
|