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Capehart and getting kicked off the team
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Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:11 PM
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Nor should he. Gun wasn’t his and he didn’t even know it was on the car, even if he did, it was completely legally stored on the trunk. Those that want him to portal or gone need to portal themselves as fans, DK did far worse, multiple times and was finally kicked off after the forth. Demonte is a great kid, back off.

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Aint***

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:12 PM
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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:12 PM
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Agree

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:14 PM
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Fortunately Dabo doesn’t take advice from TigerNet..

Capehart isn’t going to be kicked off..

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:14 PM
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Would be crazy for him to get kicked off.

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 8:30 PM
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The whole deal smelt like a big nuthin burger from the get go. This is freaking Clemson South Carolina USA gimme a break. Kid should be apologized too publicly and reimbursed for the damages done to his potential NIL.

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Agreed

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:06 PM
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Clemson does have a strict no gun policy on campus, and regardless of how I may feel about the rule, I do respect the importance of actually enforcing the policies that are enacted so that they can be effective and fair for everyone. But with that being said, if the situation occurred as you described it that shouldn't be made into a big deal in my opinion. He shouldn't have had the gun in his car, and he should have known it was there. But he didn't have it there knowingly, it was not discharged or brandished at or shown to anyone, it was not brought into any buildings or carried anywhere on his person outside, and it was kept safely stored inside the vehicle. Considering all of these factors, I think this should be viewed as a very minor infraction. Capehart didn't act reckless and wasn't trying to endanger anyone. I don't think he should be ousted or harshly punished for this at all. Hopefully he'll just learn to be a little more careful from now on, but that's the type of thing that could happen pretty easily by accident, and in this situation, fortunately, was harmless.

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Re: Agreed

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Feb 16, 2024, 4:11 PM
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Who gives a #### what the school has? You have the constitutional right to carry guns. No one's business even if he knew.

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Re: Agreed

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Feb 18, 2024, 12:31 AM
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CUGRAD1980® TigerPride97 Normally I'm extremely pro-gun, but when I see responses like these it makes me realize why so many people don't like you guys. Yes, you have a constitutional right to own a gun, and that right should not be taken. That does not mean, however, that you are allowed to carry guns anywhere you want inside the United States, as you should know full well. Private facilities can set their own rules. Libraries, government buildings, schools, and many stores frequently don't allow firearms inside their property. You can usually see signs on the doors or outer walls of such buildings that will tell you this. If you don't believe me, try bringing a gun with you into Death Valley for example. You'll find out real quick that won't be tolerated.

Clemson University has a legal no gun policy on its campus that applies to everyone, and they are allowed to set it because they have the authority across all campus property, which is owned by the University. And for the record, I never even said I personally liked or agreed with the policy, just that Clemson has the right to set it. And if it is the policy, it needs to be enforced by the University and adhered to by everyone. You shouldn't have such a cavalier attitude that you think you can turn up your nose at a particular Clemson rule just because you don't happen to like it, particularly as a Clemson fan. That's a very dangerous mentality. And as I also said, I don't think that what happened with Capehart is a big deal and I don't think that he should be punished for it or kicked off the team or anything like that. He clearly didn't do anything dangerous and had no bad intentions. My previous post was actually in support of him. I just said I hoped he'd be more careful in the future about knowing what's in his vehicle.

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Clarification: Here's the official policy


Feb 18, 2024, 12:42 AM
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South Carolina Code of Laws section 16-23-420(a) addresses carrying a weapon on campus and reads: "It is unlawful for a person to possess a firearm of any kind on any premises or property owned, operated, or controlled by a private or public school, without the express permission of the authorities in charge of the premises or property." The provisions of this subsection related to any premises or property owned, operated, or controlled by a private or public school, college, university, technical college, or other post-secondary institution, do not apply to a person who is authorized to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to "The Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996" when the weapon remains inside an attended or locked motor vehicle and is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle.

So you actually CAN have a gun on campus, but only if A) you have a concealed carry permit and B) your gun stays in your car secured within some type of container. I guess there was some dispute over whether Capehart met these conditions when he was arrested, but from what people have said, he had the gun in the trunk, so it sounds like he was in compliance as long as he had a permit. Again, I don't think he did anything bad. But as you can see, there are gun regulations at Clemson that extend beyond what they would be ordinarily because Clemson is a school.

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Re: Agreed

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Feb 17, 2024, 3:05 PM [ in reply to Agreed ]
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Many places have unconstitutional gun laws. The right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed “. Not hard to understand. Seems many can’t read and comprehend.

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Feb 18, 2024, 11:19 PM
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Most idiots don’t read the full text,

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

or the background Federalist paper. “People” was selective from the very beginning. That right is still infringed plenty.

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I figured as much. We'll find out soon enough that

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:07 PM
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It was still in the original mfg packaging too...

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:08 PM
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Btw, who's DK and what happened with him?

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Derion Kendrick.

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:17 PM
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Gun

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Re: Derion Kendrick.

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:22 PM
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I believe DK had dope and a gun if I’m not mistaken. No rocket scientist but that’s a bad combination, but it seems he came out the other side ok and has done well for hisself.

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Ohh, I remember him

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team ]
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He's the one who transferred to Georgia rhpltmeg® CrustyTiger
I wasn't aware of why he transferred at the time. Was it because he got kicked out of Clemson for disciplinary issues?

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Yes***

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:57 PM
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Agree completely. I read the whole

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:18 PM
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Scenario on Clemson Insider. He was in an innocent situation and I'm not a gun person.

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I'm shocked you aren't a gun guy???***

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Re: I'm shocked you aren't a gun guy???***

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:26 PM
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No thanks, I gave you your TD back tigeron®. I'm sorry, but your boyfriend is a troll.

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Re: I'm shocked you aren't a gun guy???***

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:35 PM
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He is not a troll.

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Agree to disagree.***

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:39 PM
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Re: I'm shocked you aren't a gun guy???***

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:24 AM [ in reply to Re: I'm shocked you aren't a gun guy???*** ]
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🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:33 PM
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Based on what we know thus far can't imagine why anyone would think he should be kicked off the team.

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Ok, gatekeeper.***


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Feb 15, 2024, 9:50 PM
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Agree! Gracious, it's amazing how perfect some of the people on here are! I mean unloaded in the trunk and not his. Wow! The kid should get like 25 years for that! Suspension pending outcome of legal investigation and move on. Did he know it was against the rules... maybe. I'm not a believer of throwing the baby out with the bath water and never will be!

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Yep.

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Feb 15, 2024, 9:55 PM
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Orange-blooded until further notice.


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Feb 15, 2024, 11:42 PM
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ban cars…

already 20 deaths in SC in 2024

…for the children…

state issued bicycles or skateboards only

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Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.

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Feb 16, 2024, 6:50 AM
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Most people need cars to get to work, schools, etc.

Very few people need to have a gun.

Horrible comparison you’re trying to make.

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.

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Feb 16, 2024, 7:43 AM
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You’re right. If only one person had a gun at the Super Bowl parade many people wouldn’t have been shot.

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.


Feb 16, 2024, 12:59 PM
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Yep surprised there wasn’t someone there to take those SOB’s out. Seems crazy to be without one these days.

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.


Feb 17, 2024, 1:04 PM
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But there were 800+ cops there why did they not stop this?

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JK you are clueless. Ever read the

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Feb 16, 2024, 7:59 AM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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Constitution??? 🤦🏻‍♂️. Snowflakes!

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First off this is a message in opposition to you, not in support of JK

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Feb 16, 2024, 8:57 AM
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Have you ever read the constitution? Based on the level of education you exhibit every time you post, I assume you’ve never read anything more advanced than an Archie and Jughead comic book.

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Re: First off this is a message in opposition to you, not in support of JK

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Feb 16, 2024, 1:01 PM
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You are not a snowflake are you? You seem to pipe in when a liberal point of view is needed.

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Re: First off this is a message in opposition to you, not in support of JK

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Feb 16, 2024, 1:32 PM
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What’s liberal about disliking the moron whose post I responded to? He’s one of those people who thinks that everyone who isn’t MAGA is a liberal; are you one of those people? It’s entirely possible, and in my opinion reasonable, to think that the current and previous inhabitants of the oval office are both absolute morons who erode the high reputation of that office. I had never voted for a democrat in my entire life before 2016 and am still a registered Republican

As for being a snowflake I have no idea; since I don’t watch or read alt right programming, I don’t have a solid understanding of how you guys are using that particular slur these days. I will say though, those people with the red hats seem to be the ones who get their feelings hurt the fastest. As for tigernet, nothing said by a poster on this site can or will offend me; it just doesn’t matter.

As for this particular topic; I support the right to bear arms, but I also support the government’s right to say how and where we can exercise that right. If what is being reported here is true make Capehart do a few extra up downs and lets move on with our lives. Most importantly, like I said earlier, I have 100% confidence that Dabo will handle this the way it should be handled.

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You talk about supporting the govt. rights to control firearms, well

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Feb 17, 2024, 5:47 AM
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if our government could, they would take away all rights to bear arms. So saying you believe in the right to bear arms and then support the government's right to how we can exercise that freedom just doesn't jive.

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Yeah this is the idiotic slippery slope argument the NRA and gun manufacturers

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Feb 17, 2024, 9:53 AM
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Want you to believe. Here's a news flash they don't care about your safety they care about profits. You have right to keep a gun in your home or car and even carry it with you in many public places. You don't need to carry it into a school. No one is coming to your house to try to rip your hand gun out of your hands, stop buying into the fear mongering.

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lol you sound triggered.***


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And you seem brainwashed


Feb 17, 2024, 12:20 PM
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Do you know what it would take to take your guns away? It would require a change to the constitution. Guys like you spend a lot of time talking about the 2nd amendment but don’t really understand it. It would require a 2/3rd vote in congress and then would have to be ratified by 3/4th of the states in order to change a constitutional amendment. It’s only happened once in 200 years. Our congress couldn’t get 2/3rds consensus on a bill stating that children love puppies much less something important; and it would only take 13 states to oppose it, we could muster that without even going west of the Mississippi. So next time the gun industry tries to scare you with some story about a low level progressive lib who’s trying to ban guns in some random county in New Hampshire; know it ain’t gonna ever happen until the constitution changes.

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I'm not going to take the time to read this but just to say


Feb 17, 2024, 12:34 PM
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you don't know me.

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Of which I am thankful***


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Re: Yeah this is the idiotic slippery slope argument the NRA and gun manufacturers

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Feb 18, 2024, 5:21 PM [ in reply to Yeah this is the idiotic slippery slope argument the NRA and gun manufacturers ]
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So let's just say, if we had a track record of literal data points to show how the creeping incrementalism of government regulations on firearms never stops, you like, would still sit there and say slippery slope arguments hold no water?

I truly think some people had no idea where they were going or thought it would stop because "reasonable" or "common sense" when they were being loaded onto cattle cars.

I have more data and logic to support my stance that when you attempt to ban your way to total safety, there is no logical stopping point than you do to say we will. Ironically, you act as if our position, based on historical track records is somehow extreme or wild, yet it's you who is ignoring clear trends and data driven projections.

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Re: First off this is a message in opposition to you, not in support of JK

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Feb 18, 2024, 8:13 AM [ in reply to Re: First off this is a message in opposition to you, not in support of JK ]
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To be clear, you believe the potential tyrannical government that the 2nd Amendment is specifically outlined to help citizens resist, should have the authority to determine what weapons and where those weapons can be owned and operated to potentially resist them?



The fundamental problem with this way of thinking is that it's protection of your own subjective definition of "reasonable" which doesn't apply. The 2nd amendment doesn't exist as a right the government gave us and can regulate. It's God given and a right to self preservation simply outlined in the constitution to prevent the government from assuming authorities they don't have.

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You can't tell me what I "need". If I want one

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Feb 16, 2024, 8:10 AM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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I can get one. If I want 50, I'm protected by the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.

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Feb 16, 2024, 8:59 AM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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We don't have a constitutional right to have a car! Nor do we have a God given right to have a car.

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.

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Feb 16, 2024, 12:58 PM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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I need my gun as well to defend myself in the event I encounter someone looking to harm me or my family. You can choose to go without and down play the nee, but the news I’m hearing everyday says something different.

The parade as usual were trouble makers,so it sounds, and who knows how they got guns. Rumor has they bring them in through Mexico like the drugs for decent prices. Again people complaining about gun laws and they do not even enforce the ones we have. Makes no sense.

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Well, please tell us who you think the people are


Feb 17, 2024, 5:36 AM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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who should have guns?

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Feb 17, 2024, 1:56 PM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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Where did you get the idea very few people need a gun?

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Re: Cars are a necessary mode of transportation.


Feb 18, 2024, 5:25 PM [ in reply to Cars are a necessary mode of transportation. ]
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Men are women and women are men in 2024
Excuse me if I do not let someone use "common sense" as a point in argument for when we will know what gun laws to apply. Common sense clearly changes. My rights do not.

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Feb 16, 2024, 11:31 AM [ in reply to Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team ]
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Cars don't kill people..... drivers do....:)

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Feb 15, 2024, 11:50 PM
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Don’t think I’ve ever attended a Clemson sporting event when there weren’t several guns in the car and I’d assume thats more of the norm than the exception. Ridiculous in the state of S.C. this is even allowed to be a law considering the University is a public state institution

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As Jeff Foxworthy said,

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Feb 16, 2024, 12:15 AM
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Beavers and nipplez don't mix.

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I don't see any way that is legal. So, you are traveling to Atlanta and you go

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Feb 16, 2024, 6:38 AM [ in reply to Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team ]
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through campus and stop by to see your son or daughter on campus,and you have a weapon, THAT YOU LEAVE IN THE CAR....and that is a crime? No way. I don't think that would hold up. If it is legal,then I bet half the fans coming to games are criminals.

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:31 AM
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You are correct. If you have a CWP, it is not illegal for a gun to in your car on campus, as long as it is secured properly.

https://www.clemson.edu/studentaffairs/community-resources/oces/student-handbook/safety-policies/concealed-weapons.html

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Feb 18, 2024, 7:05 PM
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Why not go to the west side of the University of Chicago and walk across Washington Park at 11 pm...you will see why everyone needs to own a gun and be trained in its use! Same stuff goes on in Hotlanta, Detroit, etc... the old west was benign compared to JBs america!

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Feb 16, 2024, 7:25 AM
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All this over this... We have made laws that go beyond common sense when we should put offenders away for good, period.

He was raised in Hartsville... I live several towns away and my boys hunted ducks and deer before school and almost always had some form of firearm in a truck....

Unfortunately, good people get caught up in well intentioned laws designed to protect and thugs walk away to be thugs again.... Go figure.

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I don't know the details - why was his car's trunk being searched?***

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I also want to know, what was the probable cause for the search?***

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:02 AM
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A key detail about this is that the arrest happened at 8:15pm which means it was dang near daylight when he got pulled over for the "traffic" violation. It's not like this was a 2AM or 3AM ordeal here.

Something about this stinks...

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Re: I also want to know, what was the probable cause for the search?***


Feb 18, 2024, 11:30 PM
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This is his fifth traffic citation in Pickens county, third on campus. You get stopped for speeding and running stop signs on campus a couple times, and they all start to recognize you.

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Did someone say he was getting dismissed; I missed that

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Feb 16, 2024, 8:53 AM
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We don’t even really have the details about what happened so maybe we can wait until they come out to pass judgement. OR, even better, just rely on Dabo to do what’s right; it’s kinda his brand.

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Feb 16, 2024, 9:17 AM
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You are 100% correct. Honor roll student. A great kid. He needs us we need him

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Feb 18, 2024, 7:08 PM
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I would bet that Dabo will do the right thing if he has a chance...all you cats are jumping the gun on this one...sorry bout the pun!

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Feb 16, 2024, 9:18 AM
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100%

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Cool. This was on Clemson Insider, no?***

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based on reading

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:34 AM
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most cops wouldnt have even arrested the kid let alone him getting charged. apparently i twas still in the packaging as well. a good lawyer will get the charges dropped

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Unfortunately

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:50 AM
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This will follow him into the season and beyond. We all know how the pundits love to talk about anything perceived negatives when it comes to Clemson. Wish the best of luck to Demonte!

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Feb 16, 2024, 10:41 AM
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Agreed.

Nothing further should happen to the kid. Move on.

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team


Feb 16, 2024, 12:13 PM
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As is the case with players committing these level of offenses Capehart will be sent to Dabo's doghouse and tasked with accomplishing certain goals as prescribed by Dabo to earn his way out.

Once he meets said goals he will return to good standing and Capehart will have learned a valuable lesson.

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Feb 16, 2024, 3:12 PM
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Just wondering if every vehicle was searched during game day how many would have guns? Not saying this would make it right but with a detail investigation hopefully he will remain on team after some type of discipline. Going forward everyone obey traffic laws while on University property.

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Feb 16, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Also, he developed late. I see a second round draft player in Capehart. He’s going to have a monster year!

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Feb 16, 2024, 4:46 PM
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Agree. He is a great young man

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As soon as I heard about Capeheart I knew it wasnt


Feb 16, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Reported with all the facts.

Demonte is a great guy and has so much potential. He deserves and fights for his place here.
Totally on Demontes wagon.

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Feb 17, 2024, 1:36 PM
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Guns are legal as they should be. This is America

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Feb 18, 2024, 9:25 AM
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How did someone put a gun in his trunk without him knowing it? Sounds a little odd, it could be fentanyl next...Do think Dabo will dump someone without some due process...get a life...coaches have dealt with this stuff before...are we drug testing our players regularly?

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team


Feb 18, 2024, 11:41 PM
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Wasn’t his car, according to the Tiger. He’ll be OK, sounds like he was totally honest.
Spinning tires in front of a policeman isn’t always a good idea.

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Re: Capehart and getting kicked off the team


Feb 18, 2024, 5:28 PM
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Neva, Neva, Neva

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