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Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 2:43 PM
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Stop gap.
Don't get me wrong I like the hire. It's definitely an upgrade and there's a ton of potential. But this just seems like a meh he's the best we can get right now time is running out and we won't break the bank type a deal. I'm guessing salary will be right under 2 mil say 1.7 1.8 for ehhhh 3 years with a 1mil buyout. Plus this guy seems to really fit Clemson culture.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 2:46 PM
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I guess we will find out when his contract details are released. I don't think that considering what I have read. If you are thinking a stop gap for Venables to come back, that isn't happening. Dabo would have kept Porkchop or promoted someone on staff if that were the case.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 2:48 PM
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Venables to come back? Where on earth did you come to that thought?
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A stop gap is exactly what we need after
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Jan 13, 2025, 2:47 PM
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we couldn’t stop gaps while Texas penetrated all our holes.
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Re: A stop gap is exactly what we need after
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Jan 13, 2025, 2:48 PM
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^^^^^^
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:06 PM
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Assistant coach buyouts are typically the full value of the contract.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:07 PM
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Seems like a pretty dang solid “stop gap” to me.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:17 PM
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I understand your point, but in this new modern era of college football (which really began with Saban going to Alabama) I don't think there's any such thing as a long term hire except for successful HC's.... Dabo has tried to balance 1) culture, 2) loyalty, 3) continuity, and 4) competency (defined as proven performance and results).... And I believe that the culture he has built (on Tommy Bowden's foundation) is of primary importance.... But I hope that he has finally learned that in this new modern era competency has to become the second most important factor.... Of course that means the better coaches will be difficult, if not impossible, to retain for very long.... But it should also cause Dabo to become more visionary and pro-active instead of loyal and reactive.... Saban went to Alabama when he was 57.... Dabo is now 55.... Maybe it's still true.... That the best is yet to come....
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3 years (if that's what they agree to) isn't a stop gap.
Jan 13, 2025, 3:23 PM
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:31 PM
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Morris was a stop gap as he put his hat in the ring for every available HC job from day one. This guy is not that IMO....
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:35 PM
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I don't think he is hiring him as a stop gap. He is a serious hire who isn't expected to leave it's an upgrade of some sort. Dabo wants continuity when possible.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:39 PM
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Allen is a long time proven coach and will be a great coach for our defense. Very few coordinators stay in the jobs for years because the next step is a head coaching job. This a home run hire.
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Jan 13, 2025, 3:53 PM
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It’s a huge upgrade to what we had .. Milky Way boy couldn’t stop nuttin’ or make adjustments ..
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
Jan 13, 2025, 3:54 PM
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That sounds a bit groce dude...
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
Jan 13, 2025, 3:54 PM
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My buddy is a property manager and just called to say an Allen just signed a 12 month lease in Six Mile. Definitely lends credence to your theory that we are being taken for a ride
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
Jan 13, 2025, 4:02 PM
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Uh no, it doesn't.
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 13, 2025, 10:02 PM
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Did you really take that seriously ?
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Re: Call me crazy but this don't seem like a long term hire as much as it does a...
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Jan 14, 2025, 10:09 AM
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This guy coached a top ten defense that carried a limited offense to deep into the CFP. Who DO you have in mind to be a long term fix ? Name someone better.
This is a great get (even if you haven't heard his name much) and if he improves this defense accordingly, we should be deep in the mix for the CFP next year.
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Wes filled the gap between BV and TT.
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Jan 14, 2025, 1:40 PM
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There's always going to be a gap to fill. Chad filled a gap until Jeff and Tony finished growing. Streeter filled a gap until Dabo found Riley.
We've seen one successful DC who didn't accept a HCing job in our lifetime, was it Foster at VT? He never took a HCing job even after several good offers including VT and replacing Beamer. There's always a gap because the right guy is going to leave one when he seeks elevation.
Reckon why his name is hard to remember!
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Mickey Andrews under Bowden
Jan 14, 2025, 4:44 PM
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But it is rare
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