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London recap***
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A lot of you offered tips for our trip to London and thanks because many of them were very helpful.
London is a fantastic city. I hadn't been in a while and it's still the place I remember. Only the black cabs are all green/electric and so are the red buses.
Most of the people we really spoke with beyond small-talk LOVE TRUMP. And they hate Green energy -- I'm talking about working-class folks. People who have bills to pay and kids to feed and can't afford housing unless they're an hour or more out of the city.
The Brits are still as polite and dry-witted as ever. And the dollar is still weak as ever against the pound.
Tips for anyone thinking of going to UK this summer:
1. Fly Delta. American sucks. And fly Premium Select on the bulkhead going east over the pond. The extra room made a big difference in our ability to sleep. Then fly Comfort+ on the bulkhead coming home.
2. Heathrow's customs process is ridiculously simple. We scanned thru the checkpoint in 30 seconds. Not sure other major airports in the UK/mainland Europe offer this, but it was a fantastic experience I wish American airports would catch up.
3. No, London is not unsafe. London does not even *feel unsafe. There aren't crazed knife-wielders roaming the streets as many bloggers/media idiots suggest there are. London is a clean city and remarkably friendly for such a huge melting pot of humanity.
4. Go to Duke's for the martinis. They're about $40 with the exchange but just one does the job. Strongest I've ever had. And bestest.
5. Shop Chelsea and Mayfair. Go to Covent Garden and hit up a few gin palaces. There's a cigar bar in Mayfair that has great cocktails and a very well-stocked humidor. "C.Gars St. James" a Russian lady owns it and she's awesome.
6. Traffic can be a b*tch. Use the tube -- which is clean and safe, too.
TYTIA.
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Heading over at the end of June
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May 13, 2025, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the advice
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Re: London recap***
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May 13, 2025, 11:26 AM
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Trump has a 16% approval rating in England. He is generally disliked across Europe. A place where they don't dislike him as much from my experience is Hungary.
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And yet 100% of those who mentioned Trump to us
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May 13, 2025, 6:01 PM
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are in favor of Trump.
It's another way of saying polls are about as useful as a third nipple. This learned in a couple of decades of writing about polls.
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Re: And yet 100% of those who mentioned Trump to us
May 13, 2025, 6:14 PM
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Hey we're just being nice to you. You're obviously a rookie European traveler. He isn't liked generally over there, all.theough the UK as well.
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Orange Elite [5206]
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We didn't bring up Trump.
May 14, 2025, 4:12 PM
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When they realized we were Americans, they brought up Trump. Trump's about the last thing I want to discuss, no matter the continent.
In any event, I suspect you're about as European as my full-quill Lucchese's.
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Re: London recap***
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May 13, 2025, 10:02 PM
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When we were in London last May, everyone was hoping Trump would win the election. They all basically said the world goes as the USA goes, and Trump was their choice to get us there.
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Re: London recap***
May 13, 2025, 10:06 PM
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They don't like Trump. Nobody was inspired by Kamala though, not even here.
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Re: London recap***
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May 14, 2025, 6:43 AM
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They knew more about US politics than most uninformed Americans.
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Re: London recap***
May 14, 2025, 6:48 AM
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That's not saying much as you know. They usually do in so many places abroad for whatever reason.
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Re: London recap***
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It's all in how you ask the question. "Liking" Trump and thinking he's the right choice aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Re: London recap***
May 13, 2025, 11:42 PM
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Are those the same kind of pollsters that said Harris was leading in all 7 swing states and more than the margin of error in 6 of the 7?
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Re: London recap***
May 14, 2025, 6:45 AM
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Nice try. He isn't liked Western Europe. There are a bunch of reasons your cult leader isn't liked. Who cares why? It's just the way it is. It doesn't mean much anyway.
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Re: London recap***
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😆😅🤣
GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: London recap***
May 15, 2025, 8:43 AM
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Trump has a 16% approval rating in England. He is generally disliked across Europe. A place where they don't dislike him as much from my experience is Hungary.
Seek help, you are ridiculous 🙄
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Re: London recap***
May 15, 2025, 8:53 AM
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Sounds like you need mental help. Why are you offended by facts? It's not that big of a deal.
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Odd to make one of your first points on a trip to London about trump somehow
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May 13, 2025, 11:47 AM
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But glad it was a good trip. You’re right that the media who try to act like London is some dangerous place is just incorrect. Much safer than basically every major American city at least. Even medium size American cities with bad areas.
Good thing you didn’t go deeper into summer cause the Tube can get really hot since it has little air flow
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Orange Elite [5206]
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Calculated for effect.
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May 13, 2025, 6:02 PM
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The mere mention of Trump always gets tongues wagging.
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Re: Calculated for effect.
May 13, 2025, 6:20 PM
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Especially when it's a bunch bullship.
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He just returned...chatted with the locals...
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May 13, 2025, 7:59 PM
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And your last trip was...when?
He chose to talk about London...and you completely glossed over that...fact.
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Re: He just returned...chatted with the locals...
May 13, 2025, 10:04 PM
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3 years ago and a couple years before that. I have been many times and Europe a couple dozen in general. You can look up a recent poll and Trump has an 18 percent approval rating in England. He isn't liked in Europe generally. Russians love him though.
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Re: He just returned...chatted with the locals...
May 13, 2025, 10:05 PM
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London is a very liberal city, so that was even more bs. He is clueless. Like I said, he has an 18 percent approval rate in England.
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Re: He just returned...chatted with the locals...
May 14, 2025, 12:39 AM
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I can tell you that most born and bred English are disgusted with their immigration issues and love to see what Trump has done. They want their government to lock the borders to only legal immigration as housing has become unaffordable for the working class because immigrants are being subsidized and live in large family groups. I am not sure too many locals are anti-Trump unless they are raving liberals.
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Re: He just returned...chatted with the locals...
May 14, 2025, 6:29 AM
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And even with them not liking their immigration policies, 82% disapprove of Trump in England. He isn't liked in Western Europe.
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Ring of Honor [22854]
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Well, they're not voting here, so...
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May 14, 2025, 7:22 AM
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Not sure why you're being so insistent in hijacking a thread that's about visiting London. Pretty sure the OP's visit wasn't to assess the London view of US politics.
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Re: Well, they're not voting here, so...
May 14, 2025, 7:28 AM
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He hijacked his.own thread talking politics. If he didn't want to talk about them, why did he mention them? You didn't realize Trump is a politician and they he brought up how much he is loved there? He didn't want to talk Trump or politics? Hmm...you and I have different reading comprehension skills.
"Most of the people we really spoke with beyond small-talk LOVE TRUMP. And they hate Green energy -- I'm talking about working-class folks. People who have bills to pay and kids to feed and can't afford housing unless they're an hour or more out of the city."
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Ring of Honor [22854]
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You need humor in your life
May 14, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Rather than fretting over other folks views on 'all things life'. It's bad for your heart. 
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Re: You need humor in your life
May 14, 2025, 8:48 AM
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Sounds like you need humor. I wasn't fretting over it at all. I was just pointing out the facts. You hang in there. Lighten up. It's bad for your heart I actually thought his post was humorous.
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I don't mind***
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May 14, 2025, 4:37 PM
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I was for a long, long time in a business that brought a fair share of public scrutiny and criticism. You disagreeing with me, then telling me what a moron I am, is de rigueur these days.
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Actually, none of those who asked us about Trump
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May 14, 2025, 4:19 PM
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mentioned immigration/boats. Probably because every single one of them were second-generation Brits from places like Somalia, Ethiopia and Bangladesh.
But they all said they were fed up with green energy policies and, for the most part, social progressivism.
Again, they were all working men with families to feed and bills to pay.
People are people.
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Re: Actually, none of those who asked us about Trump
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I guarantee most Brits and Irish hate illegals! I was in Dublin couple yrs ago and they cussed every darker skinned person that got close to the pub.
That said, the best chinese I ever had in my life was by Kensington Palace. Those that wonder, Kensington is where Diana use to live. The crispy duck was great.
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Re: Actually, none of those who asked us about Trump
May 15, 2025, 8:36 AM
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That's fine and well I guess, but those racists might want to find a spot better suited for themselves, because London is just about 50% minority. Even the mayor of London who has been voted in for a 3rd term is a British Pakistani.
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One private guide called Khan a "disaster."
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He seemed like a pretty reasonable person but still, I didn't ask why he wasn't on board with Khan's program. Didn't really care. London was a delightful city. Very clean, very safe, very reasonable and hospitable.
The only beef we had with London was the night we went from our place in Westminster over to Greenwich for a concert at O2. Traffic was horrible coming and going. Should've taken an uber boat down the Thames. However, some of the traffic was caused by VE80 prep and some was the result of ongoing construction.
Typical of any mega-city on the planet.
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Re: Calculated for effect.
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Especially when it's a bunch bullship.
A1 simply shared the conversations he had while in the UK. Either you think he is lying or you have such a bad case of TDS you can't handle the truth. Instead of disputing his account, maybe you should go over and report on your trip.
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Re: Calculated for effect.
May 14, 2025, 6:53 AM
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Nice try. No he made it sound like that is the normal and the way it is over there. You know that and I know that. I was just pointing out the obvious. It seems your TDS is so extreme that you can't help but defend Trump even when somebody is wrong. I was just pointing out that his cult leader isn't liked there. He brought it up. He also brought it up on a football board.
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Re: Calculated for effect.
May 14, 2025, 6:54 AM
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Actually Amphitheatre, but he knows it ends up in the same area.
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It does?
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Didn't realize it would end up on the football bored. Wouldn't want it there.
I think probably I hit a nerve when I said those we spoke with like what Trump's about. I hope you don't let it ruin your week.
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Re: It does?
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Didn't ruin my day, minute, or second. I thought it was funny what bullshyt it was. I enjoyed it. Thank you.
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glad you got back through customs OK
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I read about the New Jersey Family, who were forced to bust tables at a Buffalo Wild Wings in Hartfield Airport because they did not have the special stamp on their driver's license yet.
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A lesbian friend of ours
May 14, 2025, 4:24 PM
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will not travel abroad until Trump is out of office. She fears she won't be allowed back in.
A Canadian friend of ours winters on Hartwell. She left about a month ago - back home to Ontario. Before leaving, she said she didn't think she'd be allowed back this coming winter, given Trump.
Neither can be persuaded otherwise.
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do you have any soccer interest?
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May 14, 2025, 2:32 PM
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I went to two Tottenham matches when I was there. Arsenal was not in town then and Chelsea tickets were way too much (they were playing Man U)
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We took the tube to Chelsea for some
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shopping to escape VE80 crowds in/around Westminster. I had hoped to go to the stadium but ran out of time.
My wife is a two-time NC state champion in soccer.
We really like the sport.
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Re: London recap***
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When I was in London 78.3% of the people wore a MAGA shirt. It was really strange.
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Re: London recap***
May 15, 2025, 9:18 AM
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Good gawd that is strange. It’s strange in the USA also. Kinda cultish 😳😳
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A1A, so glad that you had a great trip. I was in London from 5/1-5/9. Agree about the tube. Such an inexpensive and efficient way to get around the city. There’s so much to see there.
We took a black taxi from Heathrow to our hotel. I never bring up politics or religion when I travel out of the country. Our taxi driver brought up Trump. What I am about to type are his words. He said that Brits 40 and over love Trump. He said younger ones had been brainwashed. He also stated that they have an immigration problem.
We did a day trip out of England to the countryside. Our tour guide that day mentioned that he was pulling for Trump to win in hopes of getting a trade deal. The deal was signed two days later.
For what it is worth, the airport taxi driver also talked about medications. The use of weight loss injections is very common and affordable in England. I about fell out when Trump mentioned his friend calling him up about the cost of the injections in the US. We had just heard this from our taxi driver the week before. They pay 150 British pounds a month in England and access to it is not complicated.
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Re: London recap***
May 15, 2025, 8:40 AM
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He is wrong about 40 and over. He just believed it. When over 80% disapprove of Trump, then you know it's most of over 40 as well. Moreover, the Brits are anti-Russia at the moment and that makes it even worse for Trump.
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Re: London recap***
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Jeeze, multiple people tell you what they have heard in person on Europe and you basically call them liars because you don't want to hear anything pro Trump. Stick your head in the sand all you want but people do like Trump outside of US. Australia loves Trump because they know the China sea is critical right now.
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Re: London recap***
May 15, 2025, 9:10 AM
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Well, I have heard in person and I have spent more time in Europe than all of them combined. I have shown why they are full of shyt. They aren't liars. They just don't know what they are talking about. There is a huge difference. Trump is disliked in Western Europe generally. That's undeniable. I will take your word on Australia. I haven't been and know little about it.
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You're painting with such a large brush.
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May 15, 2025, 9:17 AM
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I said 100% of those who brought Trump up to us were for Trump. I did not say "the majority of the UK" or cite a poll.
Goodness. You're hard to reason with.
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Re: You're painting with such a large brush.
May 15, 2025, 9:39 AM
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You were trying to give a false narrative and I was just pointing out the facts. That is all. It's no big deal.
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You should brush up on your grasp of words.
May 15, 2025, 4:24 PM
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A false narrative is one that misrepresents reality while claiming to be reality. It is usually either fabricated or extremely distorted.
I said that everyone who brought Trump up to us was for Trump. And that is true.
If I had said "Everyone in the UK is FOR TRUMP because everyone who asked us about Trump said they were FOR TRUMP," then, yes, I would've been trying to advance a false narrative.
I think what you're trying to say is that the handful of people who asked us about Trump, and who said they were FOR TRUMP, are not representative of the majority of Brits or for that matter, western Europeans.
You've claimed to be an expert in what Europe thinks, and have brought polling data to bear in support of your position.
I suspect your position may be specious. But I'm afraid that's as far as I'll go with it. It isn't important enough to debunk.
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Re: You should brush up on your grasp of words.
May 16, 2025, 1:57 AM
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Yours was a false narrative and you were misrepresenting what is generally going on over there. It was complete nonsense the way you framed it
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Maybe you just hang with different groups as I have a 20 person team in London, Germany and Spain. They dislike the handling of Ukraine by Trump because they expected him to close a peace deal and he initially cut military funding unlike Biden. Beyond Ukraine and Russia where they expected him to close the war, as a country they are tired of funding Ukraine just like most are tired of the war. My group overall love Trump's policies especially immigration laws. But I dont hear hatred towards Trump like I heard mockery of Biden for letting millions into US and they blame US for London becoming too liberal and letting too many migrants into Britain.
Even Germans are complaining about too many Turks and now Turk gangs in cities. When in Berlin last year my German emplyees told me where not to go first before they told me where to go.
But the Bier Garten and pork shank with bier gravy was the best
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May 16, 2025, 2:04 AM
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A lot of people complain about the immigrants in Europe. That's true. That doesn't mean anything for Trump though. He doesn't control their immigration. As fast Biden goes, they thought he was old and senile and had no business in office. As far.as Trump goes they think he is a buffoon, blowhard, who sides with Russia. As far as blaming the US for London being too liberal. That is absolutely laughably ridiculous. They don't even think of us in their equation. They don't blame us for their own blunders in regards to situations like that.
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Hope your trip was great! We were both there at the same time.
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To the subject of drugs: Our allergies flared up the second day and a box of what we'd call Benadryl and some nasal spray was much, much less than we'd pay here in Simpsonville, and that's adjusting for the exchange rate.
Yeah, I think UK is not unlike the US re: Trump. Olders are generally for him, youngsters aren't. I remember being against anyone my parents supported when I was young and hadn't yet been mugged by life's responsibilities.
In other words, a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet.
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Re: Hope your trip was great! We were both there at the same time.
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May 15, 2025, 9:22 AM
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Did you by chance go to the grocery store and check out items? They do not want to buy our stuff because of all the unhealthy ingredients that we add. This was talked about on their news when the trade deal was signed. They were very happy they did not cave on their food quality. Also their bread and fresh fruit and vegetable prices were so much cheaper too.
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Orange Elite [5206]
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May 15, 2025, 4:28 PM
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I popped in to the local market to buy some fruit, mixed nuts and meats for us to munch on between meals -- we were doing almost 30,000 steps/day and needed the fuel!
The food was cheaper ... and fresher ... and healthier. Really enjoyed that experience.
Also found that booze was not very costly, either. Cocktails, that is. The ones at Duke's were pricey but they were also healthy pours.
If the dollar was not so blasted weak against the pound, London would be almost too good to be true from a tourism standpoint.
We had a ball at Borough Market. We love Covent Garden and Fortnum & Mason. Had dinner at Wilton's (best oysters I've had in years -- from off the Northern Irish coast) and hit up an Italian spot in SOHO called Circcolo Popolare -- best italian we've had in a long, long time.
Only Ristorante Bergamot on Main Street here in Greenville compares. And Circcolo was a fraction of the price.
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Orange Beast [6592]
TigerPulse: 100%
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Re: Yes!
May 16, 2025, 1:35 AM
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Sounds like you had an awesome time! Your impression of the food quality and prices are the same as mine. I am writing down the restaurants that you mentioned because I hope to go back.
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