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A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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Sep 11, 2025, 4:29 PM
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Charlie Kirk was not known or relevant. Maybe theyre right in their age group and political circle.
Ive been in GVL today talking to my two early teen-age grandsons and they claim that Kirk was well known and respected amongst many of their friends. Maybe some of you need to broaden your supposed "awesome" knowledge of things and talk to more people than just those that think like you.
Just sayin....
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That's amazing dude!!!!***
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And yes, both grandsons go to Church***
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lolwut
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WGAS
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Re: what Gospel do they preach at said "church"?
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Sep 11, 2025, 8:00 PM
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Thou shalt not kill
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They knew him. Theyre just pretending they didnt.
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Sep 11, 2025, 4:31 PM
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To downplay the assassination and the rise of domestic terrorists in the trans community.
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Paw Warrior [4963]
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This is a weird take.
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Charlie was well known by Fox News watchers and those active on Twitter, but it is absolutely fathomable that there are plenty of people who don't know who the #### he is. Just because we're acting like Reagan just got shot doesn't change the fact that he wasn't all that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
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Oh boy. Picking up where CaptGash left off.
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Would you mind listing which of the roughly 785 school shootings since 2000 were perpetrated by trans people? Gash won't answer. By my count, we have the recent one in MN, and the Nashville shooter in 2023. And there's scant evidence that the MN shooter did so because of his trans identity, given his Alt Right social media history. So that's 2 out of 785, but I'm sure there are more since it's on the rise.
Please share what other trans shootings have been perpetrated.
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Re: Oh boy. Picking up where CaptGash left off.
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FYI, the State of MN legislative leader (Democrat party) had, very shortly before she and her husband were murdered, went al9ng with Republicans legislators to pass a Republican-centric budget (not spending as much as the Democrats had preferred).
She betrayed the Democrat Party of MN.
The assassin (Vance Boelter) had a security services business; the budget for MN state services did not include his services. Boelter, who had been out of work, was assured of not getting any lucrative State of MN work until (maybe) next year’s budget was more favorable to him.
C&P from brief BBC piece - June 16, 2025. Author is Mike Wendling.
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Melissa Hortman was a prime example. This evening one local radio station replayed a friendly joint interview she did last week with Republican colleagues. In one of her last votes, she crossed party lines to pass the state's budget.
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I guess I should have just said ‘try harder’ when attempting to deflect from leftist violence. You whiffed on the MN legislators thingy.
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You would believe that misinformation.***
Sep 11, 2025, 8:19 PM
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Re: A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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Sep 11, 2025, 4:32 PM
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He was definitely influential.
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Relevant? Yes. Known? Yes.
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But he is not THAT well known. He is not the big name you think he was.
This is not something to get upset about. Calm down.
EDIT: Let's compare. Kirk never even came close to hitting the kind of audience Rush had, who no one can deny was a big name. Or say a Hannity or Bill O'Reilly.
Sure, he had his audience and it wasn't small, but he was not the superstar y'all are pretending he was.
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Re: Relevant? Yes. Known? Yes.
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Sep 11, 2025, 5:24 PM
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Well the NY Yankees gave him a moment of silence last night at their game so, while I agree he wasnt at Rushs or some other youve mentioned levels, he definitely wasnt an unknown to a lot of people apparently.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52193]
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I never claimed he was unknown.
Sep 11, 2025, 5:40 PM
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But people usually fabricate what I say on here so have at it.
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Re: I never claimed he was unknown.
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Hey I'm as surprised as you at the huge reaction from this. Not so much because of the murder as the fact a lot more people than I would have thought appear to know who he is.
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Re: I never claimed he was unknown.
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Charlie Kirk had a radio show in SiriusXM Radio.
His notoriety niche was among college students; they were very aware of Kirk and his willingness to challenge the nearly ubiquitous leftist doctrine promulgated by American universities and colleges on the students.
University professors and administrators were highly aware of Charlie Kirk and the threat he posed to their leftist ideology brainwashing endeavors. They hated him.
Charlie Kirk was doing great damage to the previously monolithic college student constituency of the Democrat Party. They could not counter C.Kirk’s free speech dialogue with students who did not share Kirk’s point of view. Free speech is only prized by America’s universities if they approve of that free speech.
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MTSU fired Assistant Dean for ghoulish comments re Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
This ghoul only got fired because her ‘zero sympathy for Charlie Kirk’ comment had been brought to the attention of TN Senator Marsha Blackburn. Blackburn subsequently called for her firing.
https://dailycaller.com/2025/09/11/university-dean-fired-zero-sympathy-charlie-kirk/
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Trump is attending the Yankees game tonight,
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have to do what you can to stay on the king’s good side.
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Re: Relevant? Yes. Known? Yes.
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I’m not even a Kirk supporter and I disagreed with a ton of the things he said, but he has almost 10 million followers on Instagram, 5 million on Facebook, something like 8 million followers on TikTok. And he has roughly 8 million subscribers on YouTube between his account and his Turning Point USA account. Every video across socials gets hundreds of thousands of views and they post daily. To say he’s not THAT popular is crazy.
I don’t know what Hannity and O’Reilly’s peak viewership but that seems like it would be closer than you’d think.
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Re: Relevant? Yes. Known? Yes.
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Sep 11, 2025, 8:53 PM
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His videos averaged over a billion views a year from viewers all over the world.
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did you gift your kids their white
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Sep 11, 2025, 4:32 PM
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pointy hats too?
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Re: A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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My college age step son was shaken by it and, as far as I know, hes a Dem. I guess Kirk was one of only a few that were willing to go to campuses and talk to these kids like adults and let them engage in an actual dialogue. Not much room for debate these days on many campuses unfortunately so even if they disagreed with him its not like they have a lot of other options if they want to hear a different perspective.
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did he know that Kirk attacked black women as brainless?***
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Re: did he know that Kirk attacked black women as brainless?***
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I have no idea what he knew about Kirk. Maybe, since he isn't a POS, watching someone get murdered for expressing an opinion isn't something hes ever seen before and he reacted like a normal person. He may have rushed to reddit afterwards for a six hour long circle jerk where they all shared Kirk quotes and excitedly debated who they want to be murdered next but I cant say for sure.
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I have no idea what he knew about Kirk. Maybe, since he isn't a POS, watching someone get murdered for expressing an opinion isn't something hes ever seen before and he reacted like a normal person. >div>
THIS. This is what I think many don’t get. This murder is etched in people’s minds. They seen it happen. They seen the blood gushing from his neck. We don’t usually actually see a murder take place.
And my boys wanted to see it, oh no. Yall don’t need to see that and don’t try to look for it. I’m sure they did tho
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or that he would question the ability of an airline pilot if he
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was black.
or that he thinks birth control pills make women crazy
or that he asked for one of his supporters to bail out the guy that hammered Pelosi’s husband “
Those are his words.
He shouldn’t have been murdered for the things he said, but people shouldn’t listen to garbage like that let alone be influenced by it. What happened to the ability to reason? 20 years ago people would’ve called him a kook for saying shid like that?
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Re: or that he would question the ability of an airline pilot if he
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Is the implication that if he did know those things watching Kirk be murdered wouldn't have upset him so much? Because if that's not your point then what the #### are you even trying to say? Why do you give a rats a$$ how he reacted? Are you mentally unwell or something?
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Re: did he know that Kirk attacked black women as brainless?***
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Civilized people counter free speech with which they don’t agree with more free speech that, ideally, makes a more compelling argument.
Leftists seldom have a compelling argument to support their world view, so they attempt to suppress free speech that they (rightfully) anticipate will defeat them.
When the free speech arguments from the other side can neither be shouted down nor suppressed, leftists resort to violence. In the absence of any if these tactics, the leftists lose public support. THAT cannot be allowed to happen.
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Re: did he know that Kirk attacked black women as brainless?***
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He attacked specific black women in politics that admitted they got where they are because of affirmative action. Which lowers the standards for acceptance based on race and gender. Get your facts right
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How many of you know who Terry Don Phillips was?
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He was an awesome AD and a great man. We have him to thank for our two most recent natties cause he gave Dabo a chance
How many 0310 State fans knew who he was?
Its all relative. I'm not a MAGA or an impressionable college student; so I didn't know who he was.
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I can't find any record of him ever being disallowed from debating at any
Sep 11, 2025, 5:08 PM
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college campuses. Several groups put together petitions to try to do so, but 1st Amendment rights take precedence in every engagement he ever had, apparently (and much to the detriment of your impression of universities being unconstitutional liberal hellholes).
I don't have a problem with him or people like him debating on campuses with students. He was cunning enough to keep his racism on the (relatively) subtle side, but make no mistake about him being a white nationalist.
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One of my favorite charts...lemme find it.
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Here it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divided_government_in_the_United_States
The table on this Wikipedia page explains everything. For the purposes of politics today, let's go back to Reagan, as the 80's was universally when most of our problems started (spending/debt/taxes/immigration/etc.).
Now, pay CLOSE attention to the few (rare) times when a single party has controlled both houses of Congress, and the Presidency.
You have Clinton (93-95) - Total dem control
You have GWB (03-07) - Total pub control
You have Obama (09-11) - Total dem control
You have Trump1 (17-19) - Total pub control
You have Biden (21-23) - Total dem control
And finally, you have Trump2 (25-27) - Total pub control
Ok, now, what DID NOT HAPPEN when single parties ran the show? Illegal immigration was never stopped. Immigration reform didn't even happen. Minimum wage was never raised. Spending was never cut. Classic example is Trump's border wall. He campaigned on it. Promised to build it. Had a GOP Congress for two full years, and not a peep about his wall. Midterms, house goes dem, and Trump rails about dems stopping his wall. Obama, ran on raising minimum wage. Had a dem Congress for several years, minimum wage never moved. GWB was going to reform Social Security, campaigned on it. Had a compliant GOP Congress, NOTHING changed. How many republicans have you seen who campaigned on spending less? Well, since 2000 the GOP (party of fiscal responsibility) has had exactly 7 years, 8 counting Trump now, and even NOW, we're still spending MORE.
When you see a single party having full control of the legislative and executive branches, and NOTHING CHANGES, and problems persist, and generally get worse, you know the problem isn't political.
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Re: One of my favorite charts...lemme find it.
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I actually agree with the gist of what you're saying but Congressional Pubs fought Trump tooth and nail on the border wall funding or it would have been built alot more quickly. His second term hes shut it down for the first time in decades. Thats a big reason he has near universal support from Pub voters. We've been voting for liars who promised to address the border for two generations now and hes finally done what any of them could have long since achieved with some effort. A pox on both of their houses.
You'll notice that despite total Pub congressional control theres virtually no legislation reaching Trumps desk so even now the DC Pubs are sitting on the football and trying to wait Trump out as much as possible to avoid enacting his agenda in any meaningful way.
Still, a great rant about what one party rule actually looks like.
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It's not one PARTY rule, it's MULTIPLE PROBLEMS RULE.***
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Re: One of my favorite charts thus the Uniparty label for RINOs + Democrats
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The ‘one party rule = nothing gets done / nothing changes’ because it has been ‘one party rule’ since the beginning of Clinton’s second term.
Clinton quietly abandoned many traditional Democrat ideals (protectionism of American jobs via crackdowns on US businesses that hired illegal immigrants; reducing restrictions on corporate mergers [despite some of those mergers bordering on antitrust violations; slackening up on rules for how corporations were allowed to fund their employee pension programs; engaging in proactive wars that America had no business being involved [Kosovo / Serbia]).
Thus, the Uniparty came into being. Democrat Party morphed into ‘Republican-lite’ party. Then, as now, only a small minority of Americans have a clue about how the Crony Capitalist state functions. Massive growth in the federal bureaucracy was eagerly supported by both parties; along with this came the early rise of NGOs, which were an ideal platform to launder taxpayer money into the families of politicians while escaping scrutiny of govt watch-dogs. Sure, Republicans talked big game about being fiscally responsible, but that was just BS to fool Republican voters who THOUGHT they understood money, but in fact were nearly clueless.
Quibbling about social issues was the ‘matador’s cape’ that gave the appearance of stark differentiation between the Democrat / Republican-lite Party and the ‘traditional / so-called conservative’ Republican Party. This differentiator kept the Uniparty largely concealed from public consciousness.
Trump, who is more like a Term-1-Clinton Democrat, has partly messed up the Uniparty’s self-dealing scheme. Therefore, our massively bloated bureaucracy, (rightfully) scared that some of their unnecessary jobs might be cut, are the great (formerly invisible) warriors that support the Uniparty and the waste of taxpayer money that feathered their nests.
Moving forward, the federal bureaucracy, along with open resistance by the federal district court’s plentiful socially ideological judges, are the main public opposition to any efforts by Trump to cut federal spending. The Uniparty’s Democrat wing also is a flashy opponent to Trump’s desired spending cuts, Behind the scenes, the Uniparty’s RINO wing supports their Democrat colleagues.
(*). Trump, despite his obvious penchant for massive spending according to his priorities, represents America’s best chance to expose some of the most ridiculous cases of government waste and counter productive spending. It ain’t great, but it’s the best shot for us in 30 years.
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Boy, did I bring out a bunch of miserable angry leftists in this thread.
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Re: A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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He is very popular in the 18-30 age group. He talked to young people not down to them and engaged civilly with those who disagreed with him. He spent a lot of time on the nations college campuses engaging with young folks. Most appreciated his ability to listen and debate without name calling and getting abusive. As young people return to God in record numbers many point to people like Charlie for that resurgence. I knew of him and found him to be articulate and well spoken.
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Re: A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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Cool story Bro.
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If the shooter ends up being a groyper, nobody will claim to know who Fuentes is
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Eh. It's a big country. Lots of people don't know lots of other people...
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It doesn't mean we don't know right-wing arguments or are unfamiliar with them....some of us - including me - just didn't know Charlie.
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Re: Eh. It's a big country. Lots of people don't know lots of other people...
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I knew nothing about him at all. I’ve heard his name before in the last year but before that I hadn’t. I saw videos of him “debating” college students yesterday and really it looked less like a debate and more like a gotcha with his responses to them. He seemed like he was just waiting to pounce on them and talking over them. I agree with very little if anything he talked about but his death is extremely unfortunate. I’m certainly not celebrating it. I do think it’s crazy that it’s getting so much attention when there are school shootings every few weeks. Another one yesterday that I’ve seen very little about because of all the coverage about this murder.
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Re: A number of middle-aged left-leaners in here claim that
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Both of my sons (15 and 14) come home from school yesterday talking about him. I had no clue they even knew who he was. And for them to hear about it from OTHER students suggests he was more well known than many think. Or maybe it is that particular age group that knew of him.
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He was an instagram/tiktok guy
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no thanks you, not into brain washing***
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So Charlie Kirk was the skibbidi toilet of right-wing intellectia?***
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