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110%er [5513]
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Why are we limiting DW4 is the passing
Oct 5, 2015, 10:09 AM
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Game? Do we not trust our pass protection, our WRs, or is DW4 just not comfortable yet? I know missing Williams and a true freshman at LT plays into it as well. Once we get that back on track we are going to be scary good. It just seems like playcalling is handcuffing DW4 and we dont trust him to win games(UL and ND) through the air. Hopefully we can turn it loose vs Tech!
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Campus Hero [13750]
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Re: Why are we limiting DW4 is the passing
Oct 5, 2015, 10:11 AM
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1- We havnt NEEDed to yet
2- UL was playing deep all night
3- Rain at ND
4- some of everything you said between pass protect and WR's
I do think we see more from DW4 against the nerds
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Heisman Winner [84593]
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I hope you are right.
Oct 5, 2015, 1:10 PM
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I'd like to show them early and often that we can strike quick and their slow moving O won't be able to keep up.
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Gridiron Giant [15349]
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Re: Why are we limiting DW4 is the passing
Oct 5, 2015, 10:13 AM
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GUESS YOU MISSED THE PART WHERE WE PLAYED IN A RAINSTORM.
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110%er [5513]
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I guess you missed the fact it didnt stop
Oct 5, 2015, 10:14 AM
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ND from passing it.....
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Ring of Honor [22923]
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Re: I guess you missed the fact it didnt stop
Oct 5, 2015, 10:15 AM
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actually if you watched the game you'd realize that it greatly hindered their passing game outside of hitting a few big plays when they were down by 3 scores and had no choice but to chance throwing it....
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110%er [5513]
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Yes I noticed they had some big drops
Oct 5, 2015, 10:19 AM
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They also got some big chunk plays. The coaches admit they got too conservative and part of that was limiting the passing game.
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110%er [3972]
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Still more of a passing game than y'all have in Columbia
Oct 5, 2015, 10:25 AM
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Come back in a few months....enjoy playing LSU this weekend, they're almost as good as ND - we'll see how you guys do.
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110%er [5513]
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Yeah, ok...
Oct 5, 2015, 10:27 AM
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Orange Blooded [2393]
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Re: I guess you missed the fact it didnt stop
Oct 5, 2015, 10:20 AM
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It was pretty obvious the rain affected both sides passing...both QBs were missing high which is an indicator of the ball slipping out of the QBs hand. On the TV pregame show DW mentioned his hands are so large when the ball is wet he only holds the ball with his fingertips for fear of squeezing the ball to hard and it popping out of his hands. We hold on to the two dropped INTs and Artavis hauls in his catch this isn't even a conversation.
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Gridiron Giant [15349]
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110%er [5513]
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Then what, in your opinion, is?
Oct 5, 2015, 10:21 AM
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?
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110%er [8681]
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Re: I guess you missed the fact it didnt stop
Oct 5, 2015, 10:23 AM
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I guess you missed the part notre dame was playing desperate the 4th quarter and had no semblance of a running game. Oh and they lost....
HTH
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110%er [5513]
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I guess you missed the coaches admitting
Oct 5, 2015, 10:26 AM
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They got too conservative... stop being so defensive.
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Heisman Winner [84593]
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Reads like you are the one being defensive,
Oct 5, 2015, 1:13 PM
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skippy. So coaches admit they got too conservative, this means maybe they learned from it.
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The only reason they were throwing it
Oct 5, 2015, 1:33 PM
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Because they couldn't run the football...
(Outside of those QB Scramble/runs)....
And down three scores... you have no choice......
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CU Guru [1549]
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I don't know but we won...and the sun is out right now
Oct 5, 2015, 10:19 AM
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so enjoy it...(literally and metaphorically)
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Clemson Icon [27792]
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One thing is for sure ....
Oct 5, 2015, 10:35 AM
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The play calling gave us less of a opportunity to turn the ball over late and this is certainly a good thing. An int. or fumble late would have lost this game for sure and the Tigers did not do that. ND did .... four times and they LOST the game. Good coaching. My only gripe is we were not able to get just one first down in the last few possessions and that kept us from putting the Irish away. Missing the last field goal hurt also. Hope we can fix that.
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TigerNet Elite [74647]
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DW said before the game that he could not grip
Oct 5, 2015, 10:31 AM
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the ball tightly in the monsoon without it sliding out of his hand. Notre Dame never had the lead, and had to do whatever they could to make a comeback.
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Legend [6980]
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And with our lack of depth, our players were gassed in the 4
Oct 5, 2015, 10:39 AM
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th quarter plus we were playing prevent defense and "ball control" offense
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Clemson Icon [24728]
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Dabo has proven to analyze his team and make improvements.
Oct 5, 2015, 10:32 AM
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My guess is that Dabo will review the offensive play calling.
I am holding judgement until after the GT and BC games. I am looking to see a more aggressive approach.
Our offense will need to be better to beat Miami, NCSU, FSU and SC.
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110%er [5513]
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Finally a mature response!
Oct 5, 2015, 10:35 AM
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+1
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [104989]
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Clemson Icon [24728]
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OBS might get sober enough to remember all his trick plays?***
Oct 5, 2015, 12:05 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3322]
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Re: OBS might get sober enough to remember all his trick plays?***
Oct 5, 2015, 12:32 PM
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SOS is not a defensive coach. The Coots problems start on the defensive side of the ball.
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Legend [6980]
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [104989]
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Game planning isn't that simple.
Oct 5, 2015, 10:37 AM
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Sometime (Chad Morris) you plan mostly for your strengths but when your offense is truly balanced you plan for your strengths and the other team's weaknesses. Playcalling is determined by more than one factor too.
If you're planning on blowing somebody out then you might want to plan on pulling for a team that isn't coached by a third generation Bear Bryant son.
Fans have no clue what these coaches don't trust. We've won four game and we've seen a lot but I don't think we've seen all that they trust.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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If you watched the postgame interviews
Oct 5, 2015, 10:40 AM
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and I'm guessing you didn't... Jeff Scott said they intentionally avoided the midfield passing game, because if you tip it, or it slips through hands that is an easy turnover. So we passed to the boundary a few times, but otherwise stuck with the run game.
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110%er [5513]
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If you and the rest had read my OP
Oct 5, 2015, 10:42 AM
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Im not just talking about the ND game.... yet you all keep focusing on it
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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No thanks
Oct 5, 2015, 10:45 AM
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Sorry for trying to answer your question.
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110%er [5513]
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How can you answer it without
Oct 5, 2015, 10:48 AM
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Knowing the full question?
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110%er [6662]
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Re: How can you answer it without
Oct 5, 2015, 10:53 AM
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I guess some people just need to question why we arent winning by bigger scores. Fault has to be found somewhere why we arent winning 73-0 against a Top 10 team.
Putting it simply, you play to win every game and every game is not going to be 400 yards of passing through the air. ND threw out of desperation, they couldnt run the ball. We played conservative on both sides of the ball in the 4th quarter. Most ND's passing yards came after the catch, not long passes. 200 of their passing yards came in the 4th quarter against our "prevent" defense.
Now, if northalabama thinks he can do a better job, apply for the position. If not, we are ranked in the Top 10, control our own destiny, enjoy the ride.
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110%er [5513]
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Again, someone fails to read the OP
Oct 5, 2015, 10:58 AM
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Then proceeds to lecture me on a single game, sigh
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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As usual every post has a negative point. Watson is happy
Oct 5, 2015, 10:41 AM
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and content, fans we don't worry about.
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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Re: Why are we limiting DW4 is the passing
Oct 5, 2015, 10:53 AM
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Part of what limited the Louisville game was the play calling. It wasn't conservative as much as protective. We blocked 6 or 7 every throw. The pass Renfrow scored on was a 3 man route tree. In an attempt to keep DW upright, we limited his options. Trying to complete a pass to one of 3 is a lot harder than one of four/five, obviously.
The other part is right now, outside of Artavis, no one (read Peake and Hopper) is fighting for the ball in the air.
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110%er [5513]
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Another mature, well thought out
Oct 5, 2015, 10:55 AM
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Response!
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Ring of Honor [22399]
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Do you mean in the 2 games he played half the plays,
Oct 5, 2015, 1:37 PM
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the one with 3 days prep or the one in the monsoon with a 20 mph wind?
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All-Pro [665]
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I predict DW4 to light the nerds up on Sat. >300 yds passing***
Oct 5, 2015, 1:26 PM
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CU Guru [1532]
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We Won the Game
Oct 5, 2015, 1:46 PM
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So you're not allowed to nit pick the atrocious play calling in both UL & ND games or you will get thumbs downed mercilessly.
We are playing Not To Lose for some reason and I have no idea why.
Playcalling is even annoying DW4.
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Ring of Honor [22399]
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And you know this how?***
Oct 5, 2015, 2:18 PM
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