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Ok. Please explain this to me like I'm 5yo.
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:09 PM
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So the illegals coming into the US under Biden brought their cattle with them? And that introduced the screw worm, which has supposedly decimated the cattle herd, causing high beef prices?
https://x.com/Ronxyz00/status/1990077426290901333?s=20
Someone asked Grok and this is what Grok said:
No, Scott Bessent's explanation isn't accurate as a primary cause. High beef prices stem mainly from the smallest U.S. cattle herd in decades, driven by droughts, high feed costs, and slow herd rebuilding, which created supply shortages amid steady demand. While screwworm outbreaks have disrupted some cattle imports from Mexico, no credible data links immigrant-smuggled diseased cattle to widespread price impacts.
So you know me (from the USDA fwiw)....
The national beef herd is at a 73 YEAR LOW:
https://agrilifetoday.tamu.edu/2025/08/05/low-herd-inventory-ripples-through-u-s-beef-market/
https://www.drovers.com/news/industry/rebuilding-u-s-cow-herd-calculated-climb
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/re-instated-july-cattle-inventory-shows-continued-herd-contraction
https://www.ubs.com/global/en/assetmanagement/insights/asset-class-perspectives/hedge-funds/articles/2025-08-commodities-spotlight.html
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The continued bizarre lunacy of explanations from this admin defies intelligence***
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:20 PM
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Rival Killer [2867]
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They always need someone to blame.
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:27 PM
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For beef prices, it’s hard to blame trans people, so immigrants are the next best thing.
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Re: They always need someone to blame.
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:47 PM
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IMMIGRANTS IS EATING THE BEEF THAT BELONGS TO REAL AMERICANS
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I thought they were eating our cats and dogs? Beef should be falling since the
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:53 PM
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illegals only eat our pets. Like the Chick-Fila-A cow sez....eat more pets.
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He's just speaking to the MAGA base. He knows everyone else can see through it
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Nov 16, 2025, 6:55 PM
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that it doesn't matter what most of the rest of the country thinks as long as the base "gets the message". That message usually being, "Others, BAD!"
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WOW, just WOW***
Nov 16, 2025, 7:00 PM
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I don't think thats quite what he's saying
Nov 16, 2025, 7:42 PM
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It sounds like to me he's saying the migrants from South America brought beef into Mexico, and thus we (the US) had to stop importing Mexican cattle. I have no idea if thats true, at all. I tend to doubt it, but I don't think he's claiming they brought cattle into the US.
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TigerNet Champion [113061]
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"because of the mass immigration.....
Nov 16, 2025, 8:14 PM
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...a disease we'd been rid of in North America made its way up through South America as these migrants, they brought some of their cattle with them...."
"part of the problem is we've had to shut the border to Mexican beef because of the disease called the screw worm. We're not going to let that get into our supply chain"........
5.6% of US beef consumed yearly, is from Mexico. (2024 number)
So......yeah.....whatever.
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Top TigerNet [32594]
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Again, I ain't defending him or anything he is saying
Nov 16, 2025, 8:18 PM
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Just that I don't think he's saying immigrants are bringing cattle with them to the US, which I thought was your assertion in the initial post.
Perhaps I was wrong, or perhaps I am misinterpreting his words.
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TigerNet Champion [113061]
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I just posted what he said.
Nov 16, 2025, 8:22 PM
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Sure sounds to me like he said what he said. And screw worm has not even impacted the American cattle herd, and only slightly impacted imports from Mexico, where we get a massive 5% of our beef from.
And ain't a single Guatemalan or Honduran bringing their cows to Mexico as they immigrate north to the US.
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Supply and demand
Nov 16, 2025, 7:42 PM
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Beef demand is up. Herd size is down. I’ll also throw in there data centers buying up farmland isn’t helping. My wife’s cousins just sold their multi generational cattle farm in Statesville to become a data center.
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Clemson Sports Icon [52193]
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And what happens when we put stupid tariffs on beef when supply is down
Nov 16, 2025, 8:02 PM
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And demand is up? It creates a disaster.
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TigerNet Champion [113061]
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We need to bring back American pineapple, mango, banana, and coffee jobs
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:17 PM
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Murica!!!!!
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TigerNet Champion [113061]
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Bet you didn't know, beef imports are at record highs this year.
Nov 16, 2025, 8:26 PM
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WITH tariffs.
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herd size has never been lower in my lifetime, and probably yours too unless
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:17 PM
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you're an octragenarian.
And 60 years ago, when we had a larger beef herd in the US, we had 194 million mouths to feed, and not 340 million.
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Re: Ok. Please explain this to me like I'm 5yo.
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:32 PM
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seems getting them over the wall would be the hard part, but the technology has been around for a while.
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Orange Blooded [2131]
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Mexican Cowavans
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Nov 16, 2025, 8:44 PM
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Didn’t y’all noticed the Mexican cattle drives with the caravans
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Looks like 2008 and 2020 were terrible for beef. Hmmmmm.***
Nov 16, 2025, 8:50 PM
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Re: Looks like 2008 and 2020 were terrible for beef. Hmmmmm.***
Nov 16, 2025, 9:38 PM
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You do know Bush and Trump were the presidents in those years??? 😏🤡
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Re: Ok. Please explain this to me like I'm 5yo.
Nov 16, 2025, 10:15 PM
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That’s a seriously long cattle drive from South America to Mexico, but an ingenious idea as there is nothing wrong with riding a cow- see Alex Karras(Mongo) in Blazing Saddles.
If need be, some of the cattle could be used as food or even a form of currency with the coyotes from the cartels to make the final leg to America.
Bessent missed his calling as Secretary of Agriculture.
Charleston must be very proud to have such a brilliant mind living there.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54346]
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Bessent is a sharp guy. He's getting better at spouting stuff that sounds
Nov 17, 2025, 7:51 AM
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kinda connected to reality, but not true. He looks a lot more comfortable lying these days.
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Re: Ok. Please explain this to me like I'm 5yo.
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Nov 17, 2025, 7:59 AM
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Pretty bold to sneak across the border with a herd of cattle. He is saying it happens many times. Pretty funny.
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Re: Ok. Please explain this to me like I'm 5yo.
Nov 17, 2025, 2:36 PM
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Do the cattle climb over the wall or do they have to sneak them through a checkpoint in El Paso, San Diego, etc.?
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