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I dont get all the preseason love for SCar
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I dont get all the preseason love for SCar

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Aug 2, 2025, 2:33 AM
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They overachieved last season with great special teams and Sellers surprising people. I don’t think they improved personnel-wise in the offseason (net loss to attrition vs new additions) and teams will have Sellers figured out. He’ll likely take many more hits and will be lucky to make it to our game healthy.

What am I missing?

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Just semantics...

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Aug 2, 2025, 2:38 AM
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Longer tenured head coach expected to do better things. Not sure that's possible down there though.

Young talent in key spots. They've got a threat at QB, and some young DLs that could change games.

Still a toss up and one you factor in Pitchfork Ben that chicken curse should bite em again as expected this year.

They're a promised perennial national failure. Hype or not. Coots gonna coot, yo. No worries

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Aug 11, 2025, 7:20 AM
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Love your take. They will lose at least 5 games

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Aug 2, 2025, 3:45 AM
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Their defense was actually pretty stout last year and they have some returns. Their offense was young and they have Sellars. Honestly not looking through Orange glasses, their team would probably be at least top 3 in ACC. I dont think their Def will be as good but their Off will be better to make them equal.

I would not look past them once again as we seem to do at home. They have every chance to be as strong as any ACC team we play this year.

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Aug 2, 2025, 3:54 AM
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They really want the SEC team in South Carolina to be the best one, so they hype and promote.

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Aug 2, 2025, 6:07 AM
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They have a recent history of following a better-than-expected year with disappointment. In 2017, Muschamp had them 9-3. They followed that with 7-5, 4-8, and 2-8. In comes Beamer. He rebounds (somewhat) with 6-6 and a bowl win, then 8-4 (with a Gator Bowl invite), only to drop to 5-7. I don't expect they're going to fall off a cliff, but they lost a lot off that defense.

I've seen predictions for a 9 win season. If you give them VA Tech, SC State, Kentucky, Vandy, and Coastal, they gotta win four out of Mizzou, LSU, Oklahoma, Alabma, Ole MIss, A&M, and Clemson. I see maybe two wins there, Mizzou and maybe one other they probably shouldn't win. 7-5 is their ceiling. For that program, not bad.

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Aug 2, 2025, 7:32 AM
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Excellent assessment. 8 wins tops. AtM has talent and unfortunately for the rest of the sec, they finally have a coach. Could possibly pull out a shootout upset of ole miss. But to get the 8th W, that leaves lsu, Bama, Oklahoma, or us.

If they beat any 3 of those sec teams, lsu, bama, or Oklahoma, said team will be looking for a head coach... especially when we beat lsu... don't think Kelly survives a scar loss. So I totally agree, to get the possible 8th W, they'd have to upset us... and that ain't happening. But I do think a lot of those games will be 4th qtr games.

If they win 9 games, they'll make the playoffs. And I'd definitely have to tip my cap to beamer.

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Aug 7, 2025, 5:03 PM
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I think they are pretty confident they will beat OU after last year's game.

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Aug 2, 2025, 8:07 AM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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Unfortunately I think they win 4 out of that last 7. I could see Mizzou, LSU, OK and either OM or Bama. But I do see them losing a random one to start for another 7-5. I think LSU crushes after pressure and Kelly gets fired. They beat OK last year and will not be afraid. OM has their usual lapse for 2-3 games. Bama just ends up not being that great and loses 3 games again this year.

Clemson will take them out but only after the 4th qtr. A&M is gonna be really good because they finally have a good coach unfortunately. Elko will make them a contender. TEX, TxAM , UGA are the top of SEC with Bama and TN close 2nd. Other teams are far 3nd like Coots, OK, FL, LSU, and rest 4th like KY, Vandy, etc.

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Scar will beat Oklahoma.


Aug 2, 2025, 9:45 AM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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They beat OK bigly last season.

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Re: Scar will beat Oklahoma.

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Statistically that game was closer than the score. Oklahoma won most statistical categories (granted, that isn't where games are won). The Sooners were in a 21-point hole about 5 minutes into it. That was the story of that game. I think the Sooners get them this year.

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OU was very generous with giving SCar extra possessions/free points***

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Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar


Aug 2, 2025, 1:05 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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I wouldn’t give them Kentucky or Va. Tech. 7-5 would be a miracle. 6-6 or 5-7 is more likely.

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Aug 5, 2025, 6:36 PM
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How is 7-5 a miracle for them if they return a lot and their QB is expected to be better? Many talking heads have him in the Heisman conversation with Cade.

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You dont return a lot. Are you okay coot?***

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And please show your many talking heads.

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Aug 5, 2025, 7:31 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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The deluded coot is deluded, coot

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Aug 2, 2025, 7:10 AM
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They have a lot of talent.

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Aug 2, 2025, 7:30 AM
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Unlike Dabo, Beamer has used the portal well and closed the talent gap in a hurry . They have beaten us in recruiting and really whipped us in the portal the last couple years . This may be hard to swallow but it is the truth . Dabos stance against the portal eliminated our huge talent advantage we held over them

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Aug 2, 2025, 7:37 AM
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I gave you a TU, but it was by accident. I dont think it was due to Dabo's approach. I love Dabo's approach. The coots have just done a good job on their own. Dabo is doing a solid job. They coots needed then portal worse than we did. Its working for them though. They have a good balance going.

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Aug 2, 2025, 1:39 PM
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It was most surely Dabos approach . This is the 1st year Dabo has used the portal while the ##### have been using it big time to load up with talent . Even when the recruiting went south, Dabo still did not go to the portal to fix issues . His refusal to portal coupled with the terrible decision to hire Wes Goodwin set Clemson back years . He let the ##### close the gap with poor decisions . There is a reason they have beaten us 2 out of last 3 now .

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Aug 2, 2025, 1:43 PM
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I love his approach. I like the way he built the team and I like the approach moving forward. He shows loyalty and only uses the portal when definitely needed. I wouldn't change a thing.

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Nov 30, 2014, 8:29 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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Chicken lovers masquerading as Tiger fans is a pathetic waste of a person's time .
Your obsession with dunking on Dabo is hilarious.

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Aug 2, 2025, 12:38 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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Your coots spent a lot of money begging players to come to the Roach motel and play . They will win the first 4 games dueto playing low caliber teams . They will run mouths get excited and do chest bumps in the mirror .
Then reality starts to set in and will end the season with 5 losses .
Once AGAIN like every year they will watch the playoffs on TV instead of participating.

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Aug 2, 2025, 6:56 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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Unlike Dabo, Beamer has used the portal well and closed the talent gap in a hurry . They have beaten us in recruiting and really whipped us in the portal the last couple years . This may be hard to swallow but it is the truth . Dabos stance against the portal eliminated our huge talent advantage we held over them


I might have found Judge Keller's scok...

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Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar

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Aug 2, 2025, 8:06 AM
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Their ranking is an illusion

They'll start the season 5-0 but finish 1-6 with a win over Coastal.

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Aug 2, 2025, 8:14 AM
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I’m not seeing to much love
/hype beyond maybe “dark horse contender if everything goes right” ….their win total is somewhere between 6-9 wins IMO.

I guess this counts as big hype for the coots lol

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Sellers is nothing more than

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Aug 2, 2025, 8:13 AM
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a less accurate version of Kelly Bryant. They were fortunate to win a bunch of close games in the last minute last year. I see them regressing back to 6 wins, beating no one of matter in the process.

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Aug 2, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Not true, Sellars is bigger and stronger than Kelly.. He runs well for big dude, Kelly was better runner. Sellars had a decent OL and a defense that was stout. Our defense made Sellars look way better than he actually was but that was coaching. Our tackling was atrocious and got worse all year.

My guess is that if we played that same personnel but only exchanged 1yr of new Def Coach Allen, we would see different results. Our defense tackling was comical at times. If Allen doesn't make huge improvements then fire his rear as we were not well coached in 2024.

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Aug 2, 2025, 1:46 PM
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Our offense was atrocious in this game also . We held them to 17 points even with awful tackling and dumbfounded coaching but should have scored more than 14 points .

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Aug 5, 2025, 6:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Sellers is nothing more than ]
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The thing is Sellers will have a better more experienced OL with less injuries this year, and I’m afraid with more time back there he could develop into a better passer for them too.

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Can you provide any evidence of why you think your OL will

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Aug 5, 2025, 7:29 PM
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be better?

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Sellers had higher completion percentage than CK


Aug 2, 2025, 9:47 AM [ in reply to Sellers is nothing more than ]
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last season.

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He's a better athlete than KB

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Aug 2, 2025, 10:05 AM [ in reply to Sellers is nothing more than ]
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Bryant was a good runner, Sellers is an elite runner and one of the best athletes in CFB, regardless of position. He's closer to a Lamar Jackson-caliber runner than KB-caliber.

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:20 AM
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The Scar Cooties always play their best ball in the preseason.

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Absolutely, best offseason team ever!

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:49 AM
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Shane’s last season in SC if they do well this season, as bad as I hate to say it, Shane has done a good job, imagine trying to coach there.

Personally hope they they lose to NC state and everyone else!

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Aug 2, 2025, 12:43 PM
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Will be hard to lose to Nancy since they don't play them. You meant VT?

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Aug 5, 2025, 6:39 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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You don’t see their coach staying there for his career like his dad did at tech if they do well?

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Your coach has done nothing. Nothing at all.

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Aug 5, 2025, 7:32 PM
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How old are you, cootboy?

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:54 AM
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I’m glad we play our schedule and not the coots.

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Aug 2, 2025, 9:59 AM
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Whose schedule is "our schedule" ...... LOL!

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Aug 2, 2025, 12:00 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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Coming from a coot.

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Aug 2, 2025, 2:42 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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U is a Coot.

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Oh look at the 12 year old using another handle in the same thread.

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Aug 5, 2025, 7:37 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont get all the preseason love for SCar ]
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I mean, exactly how dumb are you?

The only reason your SOS is only slightly higher is because you play us, dumb ###.

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Aug 2, 2025, 10:01 AM
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Although I think they will win and are much better, I am not conceding the Virginia Tech game. Traditionally, the coots have struggled in their first game when they play a decent team. I guess the question is whether VaTech is a decent team. Specifically, they have struggled to beat ECU in recent years to start their season.

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I dont think teams will necessarily figure Sellers out

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Aug 2, 2025, 10:03 AM
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He does need to take a step forward as a passer to truly be an elite Heisman contender, but sometimes its just difficult to stop an athlete of his caliber even if you know what he wants to do.

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Aug 2, 2025, 10:17 AM
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Sellars is the 67th ranked QB in the country.

He looks like Milroe ( who ranks 40th ) at Alabama.

Excellent runner but thats it.

Bottle him up and shut down the running backs and thats ballgame.

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Aug 7, 2025, 8:00 PM
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NOT SURE WHERE YOU GET SELLERS AS 67TH. CBS HAS KLUBNIK #1 AND SELLERS #5

LIKE IT OR NOT HE'S A QB WHO WILL MAKE SOME NOISE THIS YEAR

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Aug 2, 2025, 10:19 AM
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They are much worse defensively and have question marks across their OL... they will be lucky to win 8 games.

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Aug 2, 2025, 12:11 PM
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They are hard to figure out. Im guessing 6-7 wins. With the way they use the portal it can go either way.

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Aug 2, 2025, 12:45 PM
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They will win 7 or 8.

5 of their games are a given.

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Aug 2, 2025, 2:07 PM
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SEC

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I havent seen much hype for the Coots.

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Aug 2, 2025, 2:11 PM
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We are getting a lot more love than they are this offseason.

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Aug 2, 2025, 5:46 PM
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The only thing I know for sure reading through these posts is there are an awful lot of coots pretending to be Tigers & posting a bunch of nonsense. If you think about it much, it’s really is pretty pathetic. But, you can’t fool the real Tigers on Tigernet.

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Aug 2, 2025, 7:13 PM
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I agree. It makes no. Sense to me either. The one knock on Sellers is that his passing is suspect. Pretty important attribute for a QB. Good runner though.

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Aug 5, 2025, 12:42 PM
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Way overrated—-

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Aug 5, 2025, 1:35 PM
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AS an LSU fan, I don't get it either. Last year felt like about as good as they can be and they still lost 3 games. I just don't see it. Sure, Sellers is nice but can he pass the ball? DO they have WRs? DO they have a RB, Sanders is gone. Is their defense gonna as good as they were? Seems like a stretch to answer yes to all of these questions.

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Aug 5, 2025, 6:41 PM
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Is your defense any better? Memory serves me that sellers ran for an almost 80 yard TD on your defense untouched 😂

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And you lost the game


Aug 5, 2025, 7:34 PM
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Looks like we’ve identified a coot Rhodes Scholar 🤣🤣

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Aug 5, 2025, 1:50 PM
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It rarely feels like they're actually better than some of the teams they beat, it's like they have to rely on the other team going full ###### or a bunch of key calls to go their way like the reviews against us or the no TD call for ILL in the bowl game that led to a turnover the very next play. Every time I see them play it feels like I end up saying..."that's a very SC thing to have happen". They're offense wasn't even that good, it was the defense that got them by, and they lost about 8 starters from last year. They better plan on scoring 30+ every game this year.

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Aug 5, 2025, 2:08 PM
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Old Dominion says hello

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Its 90% Sellars hype and 10% for last years defense.

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Aug 5, 2025, 2:16 PM
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A defense that was virtually gutted.

This is the team, now minus that defense, who got embarrassed by Illinois is an extremely meaningful bowl game for Beamer and the program. They fell flat on their face.

I’m not at all concerned with them. Just imo.

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Re: Its 90% Sellars hype and 10% for last years defense.


Aug 5, 2025, 6:42 PM
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To be fair, many teams not playing in playoff games do not really care about a meaningless bowl.

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USuC has never been in position of a meaningless bowl.

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Aug 5, 2025, 7:54 PM
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Your contention that Shame Beamer and your chickens didn’t care is patently BS.

You got embarrassed by a middling B10 school. Because you’re not very good.

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Aug 5, 2025, 8:04 PM
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I tend to agree with your assessment, they do have some talent and Beamer is pretty consistent and positive so they make a good story. Thats essentially the reason. I agree about Sellars, he wont catch anyone sleeping on him this year and teams will a absolutely force him to win by throwing the ball. Halfway through the season a lot of mobile QB’s start to show some wear and tear as well if they dont end up injured. Its not a way you want to bank on winning the whole thing with.

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Aug 7, 2025, 4:44 PM
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I love the preseason love for SCar.... I want Clemson to destroy them and ruin people's season.

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