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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:00 PM
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Ready, shoot, aim. Not a great approach. Lots of issues to work out before we get to expanded CFP. Do the players want to play 16-17 games? That's a lot of wear and tear. Maybe we start the season earlier and work in more bye weeks. Do we keep conference champ. games? Do you keep the cupcakes on the schedule? Once you straighten out all of that, then they can work on the easy stuff like NIL and portal regulation  .
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:13 PM
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Exactly! Those who stand to profit massively dollar-wise are behind the rush to move up the change by two years.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:50 PM
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I feel that it was a perfect shot that should have been done long ago. If the NCAA would have been held accountable for everything they made a rule, and it was a done deal, maybe college FB wouldn't have gotten as screwed up as it is now. Players have been asking for a small piece of the pie like for ever, and the NCAA would shoot them down, and put them on ignore. They could have very easily paid FB players a few hundred dollars a game a long time ago with a minimal raise, or bonus at the end of season according to the bottom line profit, and they would have been happy.
The transfer portal was setup to be/become a revolving door without any rules with the exception, use it as many times as you like!!! That one rule change was the master of all master screw ups the NCAA has ever done against college sports. The only thing the portal has done, was made it so a a HC never knows how many scholarship player he will have on roster the next day at practice. The NCAA created an impossible roster control for all HC's in all of college sports. That one rule without any guidance rules has screwed college sports more than any 10 NCAA rules together in the entire history of the NCAA.
Philipps is absolute correct, college sports has an NCAA problem over any other problem that could possibly negatively affect college sports, and it didn't just happen, it's been there for years, and years. Personally, I'm absolutely convince that the main people managing the NCAA rules committee have been taking payout bribes from the biggest rules breakers that could afford their price for so long, that the only way to correct it, would be to dismantle the entire organization and rebuild from the ground up with safe guards to protect it from from the crooks that have been sitting in the highest seats of the NCAA making fortunes from the crookedest of all of college sports, and the Tarhole case is all the proof needed to know how crooked, and absolutely dirty the NCAA really is!!!!
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 3:53 PM
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allinallorangeallthetime52®, yours is a thoughtful post with logical deductions.
Ditto from me.
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At last, an ACC Commissioner who is at least trying...
Jan 18, 2022, 12:18 PM
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to use his head.
Swofford would have never had the stones to stand-up to the propaganda machines.
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Re: At last, an ACC Commissioner who is at least trying...
Jan 18, 2022, 1:05 PM
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LOL, Swofford, and UNC was part of the problem, why would he stand up and say anything that surely would incriminate himself. How many schools in the ACC have any of you have known that Swofford went and stood up for when charged with a NCAA violation. None, he always sides with the NCAA punishment, and will help to ad ACC punishment at the end of the NCAA punishment!!!!
Swofford was just as big a crook as any in the NCAA organization. How did Notre Dame get away with being attached to the ACC during the covid year that save them tons of money. If Swofford hadn't dealt with them behind closed doors, they would have suffered drastically finically, and Swofford saved them without a commitment from ND to join their FB to the ACC, but yet, ND has most of their other sports attached to the ACC, the ones that will make more money by being attached to the ACC!!! Swofford was crook that so far has gotten away with huge scams starting with the NCAA investigation of UNC, and then a scam by saving ND ###!!!
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Re: At last, an ACC Commissioner who is at least trying...
Jan 20, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Swoffy had the UNC problem and a host of others.... BUT I say his expansion was generally successful. Still it bought *high* when the bottom fell out on Miami and then nearly flubbed not taking VaTech.
My issue is that they just ignored regional importance and did the coastal vs atlantic crud, even the B10 dropped the Legends/Leaders crud. Having a North/South divisions would make more sense. But no.... FSU and Miami ACCCG in Florida will bring all the money.... no in Charlotte... no Pitt and Wake in CHharlotte....uggg. Just do the North/South and be done.
So he had the right idea, flubbed the execution, and then was a small character person of ill repute but that is a UNC man to the bone.
ND was never going to be forced into a conference. They are going to be stubborn. Otherwise they would have done the cash-grab in the B10... and Nebraska would still be in the B12. However, easing them into a five game schedule to prop up a few weaker schools in terms of exposure - link a few yankee schools with them (Pitt/BC/Cuse). Make sense... it also allows other ACC schools to hold the hardware properly. And then when other forces push the ND hand, they really have little option like in 2020.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:20 PM
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Yes, if we expand it beyond four teams, make the playoffs include all conference champs and then some at large spots. FCS cupcake games wouldn't count in a school's record (win or lose) since they aren't "in the same league." Play them if you like, but they shouldn't matter in the FBS rankings to determine the CFP.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:25 PM
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All this crap is the SEC push. Started the conf expansion now want playoff expansion to get more of their teams in. They might as well break off on their own. Not many schools can compete with SEC resources. ESPN keeps dumping more money in and will keep them propped up even if all of them had losing records. It would be some pathetic excuse of why they failed.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 1:16 PM
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They have been doing that for the past 10 years that the SEC has been down. The only teams that has done anything really is Bama, then LSU, and UGA barely hanging to Bama's shirt tail, and not every year with those two!!!
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 20, 2022, 2:43 PM
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Yes, if we expand it beyond four teams, make the playoffs include all conference champs and then some at large spots. FCS cupcake games wouldn't count in a school's record (win or lose) since they aren't "in the same league." Play them if you like, but they shouldn't matter in the FBS rankings to determine the CFP.
I would say the CFP committee already ignores the FCS games. They contribute nothing to a team’s resume unless it’s a loss. I can’t recall the committee having been confronted with the task of ranking teams with such a loss on a resume.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 12:35 PM
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Lots of work to do on several major issues... NCAA has allowed things to get out of control. Glad Phillip understands that decisions have consequences and evaluating the big picture before rushing a decision is the right call.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 1:28 PM
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Yes, but it will take a lot more than Phillips to stand up and tell it the way the it really is and has been for many years. College FB didn't just start falling apart. That began when the NCAA started turning a blind eye to, yes it was the SEC with ESECPN putting out the money to the NCAA to turn a blind eye that started with the way the SEC was recruiting, and allowing the SEC to sign 25-30 scholarship players year in and year out. I would be willing to bet that was easy to get away with, with actually pulling a scholarship that they had an alumnus paying for out of pocket using the secret bags with ghost dropping them off. The same as they do with recruiting, but they also do it with non scholarship players that play or start in every game disguised as a walk on!!!!
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 1:36 PM
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From what I've read, the Big 10 Commissioner is standing with Phillips and the ACC.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 4:01 PM
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Phillips is showing some real leadership. Let's see how long it takes before ESPN (aka Disney ... followed by Gooble, FakeBook, and Twatter) shuts him down. The oligarchs in the 'communications platform' world tend to stick together.
As you said allinallorangeallthetime52®, it will take more than Phillips (and also the B1G commissioner) to enlighten everyone to the NCAA's corruption and self-dealing.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 1:17 PM
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I agree with Phillips in this sense: NIL and Transfer portal should be "handled" before CFP expands.
I'm pretty sure in his full statement he said something like, "The NCAA needs to be reinvented."
If you think the commissioners have a hard time agreeing on how to expand the playoff just wait til they try and agree on what the "New and Improved" NCAA should look like.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Saying the word reinvented," was just being professional, but he knows what really needs to be done, and that is to do away with the NCAA, and form another system to govern college sports to where it doesn't have so many hiding places for all the dirt that the NCAA has hid for years!!!
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 4:04 PM
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I think it's time for Uni Presidents to stand up and tell the ncaa, espn, the sec, and anyone who wants to join them, go ahead with your semi-pro nfl league. We are going to make college sports, college sports again.
I love collage football as much as anyone, however, there are at least a few things more important than which school bought the best team.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 18, 2022, 4:58 PM
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It's going to take strong leadership from influential people/places. We can hope.
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Re: ACC commissioner Phillips gets it
Jan 20, 2022, 1:29 PM
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My opinion is that the very same judge that put his nose in college sports where it didn't belong, he should have went a few steps further after he over ruled the NCAA with players being paid NIL. I really do believe that same judge, he should have ordered a complete investigation of all the going's on within the NCAA, especially with the all money that has come in, and gone out. Plus do a search through the bank accounts of everybody involved with seeing, touching, and the handling of every $cent of the NCAA money for the past 20 years. I'm sure that if a complete top to bottom Fed investigation was done of the NCAA, some of those crooks would be sent to jail!!!
It should be an easy search for people like the Feds that look into fraud cases all the time. I say easy bc the NCAA has gotten so use to getting away with all the BS they have been into for so long without anybody challenging them, the crooked dealing probably won't be buried to deep, and it probably wouldn't take the Feds very long to uncover enough to warrant a search to the bottom of everything, and uncovering everybody that has ever been involved with dirty dealings in the past 20-30 years. And yes, I'm also talking about all the payoffs from the deep pocket universities that has always bought their way out of the continuous cheating they've been into for years, and years from the simple bagman all the way to the top where suitcases of cash has been paid off to just or two of the big boys of the NCAA that has turn their head to the deep pockets of all of college FB.
AnyWay, I would just love to see all or at least most all of those that has all but completely ruined college sports as we've known it to be for most of our lives, to be investigated, and the guilty one's
to be seriously punished for taking payoffs/favors from the rules breakers. As we all have learned and been taught all of our lives, rules are put in place to assure what ever is being governed by rules to be safe from the rules breakers.
But like everything, money$$$$ usually buys a free pass for a rule breaker that is placing the cash in the hands of the people that has promised to keep the rules safe from the violator's, and they become a violator of the rules they promised to keep safe. When money has corrupted the people put in place to assure the rules are meant for everyone, the entire system must be dismantled, and rebuilt with better precautionary measures that will lesson the chances of the violator's to destroy the system they were trusted to keep safe for all, unlike what the trusted have destroyed within the NCAA governing all of college sports!!!
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