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Replies: 25   Last Post: Jun 16, 2021, 11:27 PM by: TigerDominance®
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A fact many refuse to accept.......

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:38 PM
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If not for IPTAY and the staff that composes that organization, Clemson would be just another team playing college football with some success and some failures. It is anything but that. Clemson is at THE VERY TOP and will remain there because of the way the programs are structured.

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:41 PM
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Did you get extra preference points for this poast?

Asking for a friend….

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:42 PM
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No but I do get a warm and fuzzy feeling, Go Tigers

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You may want to check things. That warm and fuzzy feeling

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:52 PM
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may just be you peeing on yourself. :)

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:58 PM
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Your cheap humor irritates me,

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:51 PM
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IPTAY did not pick Dabo Swinney to coach our FB team in 2008 .

IPTAY does so much and has long been a great organization for the university , but William Christopher Swinney is why our Tiger FB program is above the fray and tangle of average college football teams .

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:57 PM
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You’re exactly right Dug! It’s amazing that Dabo had the bankroll to build Clemson into what it is today. Thank goodness someone had the good sense to hire a guy with plenty of dough! Thanks for helping me see the light.

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Perfect storm


Jun 16, 2021, 10:45 PM
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They were a match made in heaven.


IPTAY is the most successful funding arm in college sports for plenty of reasons, and it's not a coincidence Coach Swinney was the #1 realtor in Alabama several years.

But make no mistake, Dabo was crucial in getting IPTAY to raise (& spend) more than ever. The upgrades & new facilities were paramount & the timing couldn't have been more perfect.

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Jun 16, 2021, 2:35 PM
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I agree that Dabo is a unique HC with unique ideas, vision and energy that has helped turn Clemson into an elite program. It is possible no other HC could have accomplished what Dabo has.

But I also believe that Clemson finally stepped up to invest in higher salaries for assistant coaches, invested in elite facilities among other financial investments into the program. I give Dabo credit for being a great HC abd for using those financial resources very wisely as well as creating a new culture where it gives you a true and sincere feeling that Clemson is one big family. A place where mom’s and dad’s want their kids to be.

But another important factor for Clemson’s success is the thousands of dedicated fans who support the teams by attending games, paying IPTAY dues, buying Clemson sport’s items and other contributions by fans and students.

I guess this is why I feel players are well compensated because they get a free education, special training, and they eat really well. Especially the football team. I have seen their dinning hall. Each player has his own diet plan.

When I think about all of the perks players get for free like tutoring, books, sports clothing, travel among other perks that most students or their parents pay for I do think paying players for likeness etc..is a going to have more negative affects than anything positive that comes from the coming changes. Not just because I had to pay for my daughter’s education but because a lot of players do feel entitled. I believe in years to come some of these players may wish the NIL bill would have been defeated.

I know some of my post addresses another subject but I feel they are somewhat tied in. I wonder how far Dabo will go with this player compensation bill???

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Jun 16, 2021, 2:44 PM
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Well said and I agree with the perks already in place for most student athletes.

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Jun 16, 2021, 3:38 PM
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Agree 100%

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“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!

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Georgia flea bitten Dawgs 17
Just like their Bama game last year! ????????


Fake news. Who refuses to accept?***

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Jun 16, 2021, 1:58 PM
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Jun 16, 2021, 2:01 PM
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Read the replys!

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Jun 16, 2021, 8:58 PM
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They are just outliers that want to raise your blood pressure.

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Jun 16, 2021, 2:21 PM
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As the OP has done, I too salute the loyal Clemson fan base and credit US for who we are today.

In the late 40s and 50s, we were a tiny, out of the way school with a small enrollment, but we played and competed in the biggest bowls. And our alumni and fan base were loyal. Clemson itself and Coach Howard's tenure created a rock solid fan base and who expected and supported Clemson in every way.

In the 70s and 80s, we recruited well, played big time opponents and reached the pinnacle of the sport with a 1981 Natty. Thanks to Coach Ford and our ever expanding stadium for that decade we were a powerhouse. And another generation of rock solid lifetime fans were created.

We weathered the 90s and re-emerged as a top quality program in the 2000s, expanded the stadium again such that it is now one of the pillars of the sport. And our university has drastically increased it's academic reputation over the same period of time.

IPTAY is a rock solid alumni run fundraising organization that works in concert with the Athletic Department to finance Clemson sports. Our season ticket holders universally contribute to IPTAY. The combination of IPTAY fundraising and season ticket sales makes our in the seats fanbase the single largest source of funds to support out now consistently nationally prominent football program. The support of our fans makes it possible for us to retain Dabo Swinney who is universally recognized as no worse than the second best coach in America.

There is always a lot of talk about TV revenue and that is important. But no one should forget that the combination of season ticket purchases and IPTAY dues paying members is THE largest source of revenue for the sport.

I am glad we have so many loyal TV watching supporters. I love it that almost every game is available for viewing at home and brings in considerable revenue. But none of us should forget who pays the bills and makes all of our success in football possible. IPTAY and the Football Season Ticket Holders make it possible for Clemson football to operate in the rarified air where we now live and which we enjoy so much.

I am not slighting the invaluable contribution Coach Dabo Swinney has made very personally leading Clemson to the top of the world of college football. Dabo is, of course, the magic man who has created the culture and organization that makes Clemson a perennial top 5 program. I hope and pray Coach Swinney leads the Clemson program for another quarter of a century.

Go Tigers!!

Go Tigers!!

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Jun 16, 2021, 2:48 PM
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Nothing I can add to this well thought out response.
IM ONLY ALLOWED ONE TU,

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Jun 16, 2021, 3:02 PM
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I helped you out and added one more!

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Cept 2 things

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Jun 16, 2021, 3:15 PM
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...there are only 17000 iptay members. So iptay is just a small part of the fan base. Heck it would only fill up 20%of death valley.

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Iptay is not an alumni run fundraising organization.

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All one has to do is check the bios

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Jun 16, 2021, 3:26 PM
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A lot are Clemson alums, but a lot aren’t and the top guy isn’t.

For me, the appeal of IPTAY was the broad grass-roots aspect of lots of donors of modest means. Everyone felt part of the family, contributed, and was appreciated. Helping little ol’ Clemson hang with larger schools with much larger alumni bases. The attitude I think the OP is referring to now is those noticing the IPTAY suits milking Dabo’s success as if it were their own, and the current focus on very large donors. Sure, it’s easier to cater to a few whales than thousands of little fish, but then don’t be shocked when Dabo is done and our success wanes and the whale money dries up and the IPTAY suits bail so it won’t look like the drop off in donations is on them.

https://iptaycuad.com/staff-directory/


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Jun 16, 2021, 10:20 PM
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Are all of these paid positions? If so I wonder how much of each dollar goes to Clemson Athletics.??

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Jun 16, 2021, 11:07 PM
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There are over 17000 IPTAY account owners that purchase over 55000 season tickets.

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How to start a message board 101....lol...

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Jun 16, 2021, 3:49 PM
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no, jk....you are right about that and IPTAY funded Clemson football and the athletic programs to build a smaller university's programs to what they are. But, lets not give IPTAY the ultimate credit for Dabo's success...its his leadership, vision and fulfillment of his plan that makes everyone look good. Yes they aided him but his success makes IPTAT bigger and better and thus helps the Olympic sports be better.

Considering how much money flows into major college football programs like Clemson nowadays, alumni donor groups more exist to fund other programs and not football. If IPTAY 100% disassociated with football and football had to take care of themselves....well football would just fine and then some. It'd be everyone else that suffered.

IPTAY is great and we are all proud of it, but times have changed. The average head coach in 1998 (just 23 yrs ago) made $417,000, Bowdens initial contract was just under $700k....now Dabo makes over $9M....TV revenue has changed everything.

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Jun 16, 2021, 4:01 PM
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The Olympic sports that Clemson has canceled or tried to cancel?

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Jun 16, 2021, 5:39 PM
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Interesting topic here and I do not read all posts so apologies if I duplicate other's thoughts. A successful athletic program requires many things to come together and we check all the boxes. You have to have an administration that cares about athletic excellence and not just academics and research. Because very few college athletes turn pro, the school must have academics that attracts the kids and prepares them for the future. The AD must support his or her coaches and be open to their needs. The coaches have to be able to not just coach but sell themselves and their school. The school must have supporters that provide the funds needed for scholarships and facilities.

Check, check, check. Go Tigers.

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While I won't refute your sincere input and I agree at some level but,

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Jun 16, 2021, 10:36 PM
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their value in the program is diminishing and I hate this. When the NIL was approved, the players making money on all the crazy gimmicks coming forward will mean they care less about what the school offers and more about how they can get "Likes" on their Social Media! It's going to be about what we can do for their monetary gain versus what Iptay did for Clemson sports. Everyday with NIL and TV contracts, Iptay becomes more irrelevant, and I assure you, I hate this as much or more than you!!

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A fact? Maybe your opinion

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Jun 16, 2021, 11:27 PM
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Iptay is great. They were highly regarded even in the Bowden years.

Iptay built the foundation, Dabo took us to the promised land.

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