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A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:32 PM
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We would have just one loss, plus a conference championship, with several nice wins and no bad losses.
The only scenario that could possibly keep us out would be if all five power 5 conference champions had no more than one loss:
Georgia 13-0
Ohio State or Michigan 13-0
TCU 13-0
USC 12-1
Clemson 12-1
It would be between us and USC. I believe we would get in over them, but it could go either way.
History proves that it’s very unlikely for all of the power 5 conference champions to have no more than 1 loss.
Worrying about a one loss team without a conference championship getting in over us is a waste of time. It isn’t going to happen.
If we win out, our chances are extremely good to make the playoffs.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:38 PM
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Based on what I have seen so far the 1 loss team to worry about is Tennessee. We really need big wins down the stretch and somehow, TCU needs to lose.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:40 PM
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The post I put on here earlier has an ESPN playoff predictor and it puts TN in before us if we oth win out
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:52 PM
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Nonsense. Clemson was blown out by nobody. Their "signature" wins are against ACC teams that get blown out every year in out of conference bowl games - particularly against the SEC. The SEC will likely send two teams which would be UGA and Tennessee if both win out. Obviously OSU (or Mich). TCU is in if they win out. USC and Michigan would need some help assuming a loss each. Clemson would be hammered if they found a way to stumble in. They are missing an OC and a QB at the moment along with OL and WR issues. Not their year.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:40 PM
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i hate to tell you this, but Tennessee is going to go ahead of us. they won’t lose either to the ##### or Vandy. their resume is immensely better than ours That hives is UGA ohio State/michigan winner, and the Vols. we have to root for TCU to lose 1 if not 2 and Southern Xal to lose. Our loss to an average Notre Dame team just kills us
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I don’t buy it.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:45 PM
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They have had a good year. Their win over Alabama was great, and their win over LSU is looking better and better.
But they also lost to Georgia in a game that wasn’t really close.
The committee highly values conference champions. Tennessee isn’t even getting to play for their conference championship. We, on the other hand, would have a conference championship and would likely have beaten a top 10 team in the process.
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Re: I don’t buy it.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:08 PM
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UT would definitely get in over us with 1 loss. Even with the conference championship I wouldn’t argue that. Their best win over Bama is better than our’s.
And their loss is better- UGA is crushing everyone, but maybe they do better on a neutral field?
I’m not very confident we even win out. Every game we look shaky, even when we get the win.
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Re: I don’t buy it.
Nov 15, 2022, 5:40 PM
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We have no style points. Plus we can't handle teams that have solid dee. Off season will tell us a lot. Keep beating sub par ACC teams and loose to the elites. Keep hearing Jeff Scott would be a great pickup as a WR/recruiter. No to OC. Time to go outside n find one.
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Tenn also barely beat Pitt in OverTime...***
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:43 PM
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UGA is in. Undefeated TCU is in. Maybe a one-loss TCU. One-loss Tennessee, Ohio State, Michigan would have losses to a better team.
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You’re ignoring the importance of conference championships.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:46 PM
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The committee highly values them.
If it were just based on the regular season, you would be right.
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Re: You’re ignoring the importance of conference championships.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:58 PM
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It’ll be an interesting decision for the committee for sure!
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Re: Bama and Ohio State Got In the CFP W/O a conference title
Nov 14, 2022, 10:41 PM
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No they wouldn’t, if I bet I’d put the house on it.
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Re: Bama and Ohio State Got In the CFP W/O a conference title
Nov 14, 2022, 11:24 PM
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Here is the issue this year. Our Tigers have not been going out and blowing out teams then had a bad game that was a fluke. The reality is that we win but it is not pretty. We are not dominating anyone. Tennessee is dominating other teams. From what I can tell, Tennessee looks better than us and should get the nod.
NOW. Here is how we can get in RUTS in the last 3 games. If they are blowouts, we have a pretty good shot. Our Offensive staff and DJ are not capable of this unfortunately. But hey one can hope.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:45 PM
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If LSU beats UGA in the SECCG Then there goes two spot right there.
I think the book is sealed for Clemson to make it. Hope i’m wrong but I don’t see a high percentage path from #10 to #4 in just two weeks.
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UGA losing would be bad for us because they are probably
Nov 14, 2022, 9:48 PM
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in regardless.
I don’t see that happening though.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:48 PM
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Not if we get in a boat race with UNC.
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If we get in a boat race with UNC we won’t be 12-1.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:50 PM
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We will be 11-2, we won’t have a conference championship, and we won’t be in the playoffs.
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you are confusing us getting motorboated by UNC
Nov 14, 2022, 10:11 PM
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that is an entirely different thing.
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Re: you are confusing us getting motorboated by UNC
Nov 14, 2022, 10:14 PM
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:51 PM
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I still have not made it out to see the Clemson speed boat team. I keep hearing about these boat races but can never find anything about the boat racing team. links?
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:28 PM
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they're always busy tinkering with their hydroplanes.very reclusive.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:54 PM
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Judge,
You seem to be neglecting Tenn and Mich (unless they are blown out by OSU)
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I’m not neglecting them at.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:07 PM
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Between two one-loss power 5 teams, the one with the conference championship gets the nod.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:55 PM
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Sorry, but I don’t think 12-1 in this years ACC gets it done. Your conference championship would be over my Tar Heels who are not well respected and deservedly so. The ND loss was a deal breaker.
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12-1 USC would get in over us bc win against Notre Dame
Nov 14, 2022, 9:55 PM
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And frankly, if they get to 12-1, they deserve it.
But I also don't think they'll get there. But pull for UCLA and Notre Dame against them.
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Re: 12-1 USC would get in over us bc win against Notre Dame
Nov 14, 2022, 10:16 PM
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I think if USC loses to ND or UCLA, we are in.
But if they get hot and smoke both we are out.
If UT beats Scar at Scar (who is undefeated at night btw) but it’s close and we handle Scar by a better score we are in.
Everyone is allowed a bad game (whether they win or lose). It’s the no conference title and second loss that holds people out. We layed an egg at ND, but it was mostly self inflicted, and literally 2 plays caused a 21 point swing. Blocked punt for 6 and pick 6 on miscommunication while we were wide open in the end zone.
Was it 2014 when Ohio State lost bad at VaTech and still made the playoff?
The acc has a better track record than everyone but the SEC in the playoff (largely thanks to us).
Heck Marshall put up more points against ND than Ohio State did at the horseshoe. Is Marshall a better offense than OSU?
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Re: 12-1 USC would get in over us bc win against Notre Dame
Nov 14, 2022, 11:30 PM
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Problem is our whole season seems like one mediocre shaky performance after another. It was not just ONE bad game. I wish it was, but it was not.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:55 PM
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Getting blown out by a mediocre Notre Same team is certainly a bad loss. Just because its ND doesn't mean they are anything special this year. Now if we'd gone up there and been even remotely competitive then I might agree, but we looked like we shouldn't even be on the same field as them and were humiliated in every phase of the game. I mean its not losing at home to Furman bad but its still pretty bad.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:56 PM
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Nice try sucking up to the growing number of posters that’s sick of your nonstop trolling. You’re hoping like hell we lose another game or get blown out in a playoff game. You’re no Clemson fan just a Brown-L fan.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 9:58 PM
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Congrats Bowlhunter, You have made the list. The JK owns your head space list. You are the second member behind only MorbidTiger,
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:00 PM
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And you’re an idiot just like your jstonecobboxD329 partner.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:01 PM
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You seem fragile. Sorry to trigger.
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I sure wouldn't put much money on us making it at 12-1.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:02 PM
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Let's say only UGA and OhSt/Mich winner are undefeated. TCU loses to K-State in the B12 CG, but they would have already beaten them in the regular season. Tennessee will only have one loss. so they will get in ahead of us! We better hope USC, who is PAC 12's only one loss team now, loses another one, because a one loss USC will finish ahead of us. We better hope the OhSt/Mich game is a blowout!
I think Tennessee will end up being the highest ranked one loss team, unless USC possibly runs the table, which I doubt they do!
For us to get in, TCU has to lose, OhST/Mich needs to be a blowout, and USC needs to lose one. Even if all that happens, a one loss TCU may still get in ahead of us!
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You are discrediting us way more than the playoff committee will
Nov 14, 2022, 11:10 PM
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in that scenario.
Why are all of the other one loss teams assumed to get in over us? That makes zero sense.
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Aren't they ahead of us now?***
Nov 15, 2022, 7:00 PM
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Re: I sure wouldn't put much money on us making it at 12-1.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:24 PM
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Would the Alabama win really be that much more impressive than a UNC win at this point? I mean they look ok on run defense and a decent offense, at least UNC is elite at something
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Bama has two losses and may still be ahead of us tonight! What does
Nov 15, 2022, 6:57 PM
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that tell you? Not to mention LSU, who is already ahead of us!
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TN barely beat Pitt
Nov 14, 2022, 10:05 PM
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Putting 2 Sec teams in playoff would be based only on eye test, which is BUllship!
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I'm not saying TN should get in....I'm just saying they will
Nov 14, 2022, 10:15 PM
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get in ahead of us. Personally, it would suit me if only conference champs would be considered for the playoff! Why should a team like Tennessee get in, without winning their conference, and having already lost to another playoff participant?
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:36 PM
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Check again, the criteria of conference champion is not the 5th factor out of 5, it’s simply the last one listed because it’s the last one that usually happens and the one that can put you over the edge between teams with the same record.
Look at it yourself, the criteria are not in any particular ranked order. It’s up to the committee to use the five to decide.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:46 PM
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The point is the selection is completely about rankings and not about conference champions. The rankings say there are 9 teams the committee believes are more deserving than Clemson as of last week. Tennessee is not going to drop below Clemson if they win out simply because they won't play for a conference championship because the committee believes they are more deserving than Clemson based on their body of work and have ranked them and us accordingly.
You don't have to guess what they are thinking. You see it in their rankings each week. If teams in front of us fall and we win out our ranking will move up. People keep stating that winning the ACC guarantees us a spot. It doesn't...
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:50 PM
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Also, the only time the conference champion generally comes into play is there are 2 really close teams being considered, say #4 and #5, and one of them is a conference champion then they almost always get the nod. The other thing is conference champions do generally make it to the Top 4 in most cases but it is because they are considered among the 4 best teams in the country and not because they are conference champions. Again, this is a ranking system to try and get the 4 best teams in the playoffs.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:18 PM
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This might be an easier way to think about it and maybe eliminate some of the confusion. Think about what we did when we only had 2 teams playing for a National Championship. You had polls that ranked the top 2 teams at the end of the year and those 2 teams played for the National Championship. Now, the CFB playoff committee has replaced the polls and they are using their system to rank 4 teams instead of 2 for the playoffs. The highest 4-ranked teams will be in the playoffs regardless of whether they are a conference champion or not. Most will be conference champions and rarely are they not but it is because they are among the 4 best teams the committee has chosen to participate for a NC and not exclusively because they won a conference.
So, when people say if we win out and win the ACC we are a lock, that just isn't true. We have to be ranked in the Top 4 for that to happen. We could win out and still be #5 o #6 in the rankings and we wouldn't make it. Sitting at #10 right now means we have to see what plays out in front of us AND we have to win out.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 14, 2022, 10:06 PM
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Another factor in our favor - we are now a Blue Blood program unlike Michigan, Tennessee, and (chuckle) TCU. I bet the committee takes that into account.
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The Vols will get in.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:18 PM
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Georgia
Ohio St / Michigan
Tennessee
Clemson
TCU HAS to lose so we have a chance. If USC lost that would help as well.
There’s a small chance. We still have three weeks to go so let’s see what happens but the Vols are all but guaranteed to get in.
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Re: The Vols will get in.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:38 PM
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Dare I say it. Go Coots.??
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Re: The Vols will get in.
Nov 15, 2022, 12:24 AM
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Vols won't get in if TCU is undefeated.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 12:23 AM
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Gonna be tough. And the loss to Notre Dame was just ugly. We'll obviously need help.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 12:57 AM
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I think you’re trolling Judge.
A 12-1 GA gets in before Clemson.
A 12-1 OSU gets in before Clemson.
A 12-1 MI gets in before Clemson.
A 12-2 TCU gets in before Clemson.
A 12-1 USC gets in before Clemson.
A 12-1 TEN gets in before Clemson.
See a pattern here.
While it’s not completely impossible for a 12-1 Clemson to get in, it is highly unlikely.
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Nope - ND curb stomped us
Nov 15, 2022, 1:35 AM
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That was a terrible look and everybody was watching. There's no way to paint that pig. Hello Orange Bowl - Clemson and Alabama will be a great game.
Let's face it - we don't have CFP talent this year. Let's set our sights are beating a good Alabama team and bring momentum into the new year.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 2:56 AM
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Where do I place my bet??
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 6:29 AM
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USC will need another loss or lose the Pac 12. TCU will need to lose once or twice. UGA will beat LSU, hope that OSU beats Michigan and TN will already be in. UGA, OSU, TN and Clemson if we win out. It’s possible, we have to do our part and hope the other cards fall in our favor.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 6:58 PM
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USC will lose to Oregon imo
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 7:00 PM
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There is absolutely zero chance we make the playoffs if we win out…zero
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Zero ???????????
Nov 16, 2022, 1:16 PM
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Dang
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If USC finishes with only one loss, that would mean that
Nov 15, 2022, 7:05 PM
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they beat UCLA and Notre Dame...no way we will be ahead of them! However, I do doubt they win both those games and their championship game!
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That is certain
Nov 15, 2022, 7:53 PM
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 15, 2022, 7:35 PM
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We wouldn’t get in over USC simply because for them to go 12-1 then they would have to beat ND and that would be the tie breaker that gave them the advantage!!! Other than that scenario you are exactly right!!! Putts OT loss to Tenn and FSU win over LSU is gonna work in our favor…NC just needs to beat state and show up to the ACCCG with one loss and iah we kinda need ND to outbphysical USC amd win!!!
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I think USC would get in over us. College baseball regional
Nov 16, 2022, 10:09 AM
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logic applies here.
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Re: A 12-1 Clemson team will not be left out of the playoffs.
Nov 16, 2022, 12:53 PM
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I personally don't want us to go the playoffs if it looks like we'll get our a$$ kicked like the last 2 times we went.
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yep, unless we improve dramatically over the next 3....
Nov 16, 2022, 1:25 PM
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I dont want any part of UGaY's defense. I hope that we somehow get the offense clicking. Our D is good enough to get us by the next 3, but not any after that without some level of a functioning Offense
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Re: yep, unless we improve dramatically over the next 3....
Nov 16, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Not sure about the next 3. I'm sure you are assuming we beat unc. I got to tell you...Drake maye is the best college freshman QB i've seen since Trevor Lawrence , deshaun Watson or tua t. Basically what I'm saying is we need to be worried about unc. They are on a sick win streak and the coach is looking for some get back from a few years ago when we barely beat them.
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That's beautiful
Nov 16, 2022, 1:14 PM
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Headline was definitive.
The article well written.
I applaud you sir even if you cant see this due to my ignore status
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I, huh, huh, don’t think so…
Nov 20, 2022, 10:30 AM
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