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Legend [19753]
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I'm sick of all the idiots who are content with
Sep 14, 2009, 10:00 PM
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Day games and no TV time and putting others down for being pissed!
#1 I don't care what happened in the 70's or 80's. This is 2009 and nor did the 70's or 80's have the sports channels or even the time slots available to sports as there are now.
#2 I don't care whether or not we one last week. We're playing TCU, the #15 team in the country for pete sake, during a week where the top games are GT-NC and Miami-VT. We've played prime time ESPN games against lesser oppenents in the past and not even ranked ourselves.
#3 I don't care if you're an old geezer and need to be home to be in bed by 7. You are in the minority.
#3 Teams don't get the recruits that it takes to be a powerhouse by playing on ESPN360 when playing a ranked opponent. They get that way by beating ranked opponents in Prime Time Cameras.
#4 I don't give a crap about any of your lame excuses to be content with day games, especially when they're not televised and can be scheduled at any time. Night games on TV bring an atmosphere like none other. Every day game I've been to at clemson has been the equivalent of like being at Church and that includes last seasons Scar game. Every night game I've been too has been rocking. GT 2006 being the most memorable and BC 2007 next in line.
The majority of Clemson fans are pissed, get over it or go pull for a team that can't afford stadium lights.
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preach it, brother***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:05 PM
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null [766]
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I like your enthusiasm***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:05 PM
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110%er [6386]
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Yeah, the "back in my day, we didn't even have electricity"
Sep 14, 2009, 10:06 PM
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arguement has grown tiresome. I don't really care what you grew up with... if there's one lesson that you should have learned by now, it's that things change. Night games are more fun and provide a better atmosphere. It's funny, some of these people get so bent of tradition, yet I see no one in a suit and tie at the games... You know, that's how they used to dress too!
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Yeah TDP has issues with noon games
Sep 14, 2009, 10:13 PM
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And also Give up with the excuse that tdp doesn't have say so in when we play. We aren't even on tv and the decision to play at 1 was made by tdp
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Night games pretty consistently tend to be louder crowds.
Sep 14, 2009, 10:11 PM
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That in turn, generally makes it a little tougher on the opponents. To me, if T.V. doesn't pick your game up, why not go with the tougher environment?
Oh, and this particulary applies to games in the month of September.
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so we win more at night than in the day?***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:26 PM
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All-TigerNet [10874]
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Don't know about that because generally our night games are
Sep 14, 2009, 10:35 PM
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against tougher opponents. One of the primary reasons, because we infrequently have night games unless t.v. sets the time. Games get picked up more often on t.v. when you play quality opponents...like TCU.
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LOL
Sep 14, 2009, 10:11 PM
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another Neo-Clemson pansy
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Legend [19753]
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Yet another depends wearer.....***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:24 PM
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Orange Blooded [3592]
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LOL....again!
Sep 14, 2009, 10:40 PM
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You just don't get it do you? I hope to God your're not a Clemson student. I would hate to think you're what we're admitting these days.
LOL.....sheez
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I guess you don't care that my four year old will get to see
Sep 14, 2009, 10:14 PM
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his first 2009 Clemson game that he has been looking forward to all year because "Youth Day" two weeks ago was a 6 PM game.
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Re: I guess you don't care that my four year old will get to
Sep 14, 2009, 10:24 PM
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Actually your correct I don't care what your four year old does. And I know a 3:30 start would just be devistating to him. Gimme a break dude
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CU Guru [1332]
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When your reading skills reach a higher level, dude, then
Sep 14, 2009, 10:34 PM
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you might realize the original poster was wanting night games not day games.
And when you have a son, you might understand what it's like to care about what someone else wants over yourself. To me, Clemson is about family.
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Legend [19753]
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A 4 year old doesn't need to be up until 10 at night.
Sep 14, 2009, 10:30 PM
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If you've noticed all the bratty kids around you lately, it's because they are not getting enought sleep at night and their parents are pumping them full of sugar during the day.
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Re: A 4 year old doesn't need to be up until 10 at night.
Sep 14, 2009, 10:34 PM
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Looks like plenty of parents on here allowed their brats to stay up way past 10-11. Spoiled and selfish. Game time is set. Go to it or not. Hey, just start drinking liquor earlier as that seems to be the bigger concern, how drunk you can get before kickoff
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Legend [19753]
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Re: Do you have some sick rule that they can't sleep in the car?***
Sep 14, 2009, 11:29 PM
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That's the option, but with horns blowing, constant start and stop, and it just being plain late for a true night game, it's more pure exhaustion than real sleep at that point. Clemson is unique. It is not centrally located. Night games pose a real challenge for fans in the eastern part of the state with families. and their are pleny of us.
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Re: why would you not take a 4 yr old to a 6:00 game?
Sep 14, 2009, 10:31 PM
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Because if you line 4 hours away without trafic like I do it's 2-3 in the morning when you get home. Many parents like their 4 year olds in bed before then.
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Legend [19753]
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It's not illegal for a kid to sleep in the car.***
Sep 14, 2009, 11:16 PM
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Re: why would you not take a 4 yr old to a 6:00 game?
Sep 14, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Because they can't sleep in the car on the way home right? Or is it because they are 4 and too old for naps during the day?
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It wouldn't have worked with my kids. It would have kept
Sep 14, 2009, 10:36 PM
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them up way past their bedtimes; they would have been sleepy and grumpy at that age and we wouldn't have been able to enjoy the game. We couldn't take them to night games for that reason. It was that way for a lot of our friends as well.
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Re: It wouldn't have worked with my kids. It would have kept
Sep 14, 2009, 10:42 PM
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The ones griping are the one's more concerned with the party than the game, or the experience. Many of my most cherished childhood memories are chilly mornings before beautiful fall 1pm kickoffs. I LOVE EARLY GAMES!
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110%er [6692]
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I dont really party that hard but still enjoy the night game
Sep 14, 2009, 11:44 PM
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better. And on that saturday, its not gonna be a "chilly" morning. Itll be hot as hell.
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Re: I dont really party that hard
Sep 15, 2009, 10:41 AM
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I said most, so exception noted. But do you have the vehement objection that many are stating? I don't know, when attending a game it's never been a big deal to me when it started. This Saturday is supposed to be partly cloudy with highs in the low 80's. That's pretty sweet. The point I was trying to make, and many others, is that a late start is a real detriment to people with young families. And it can't be denied that the late games do contribute to the drunkenness at games. Last night game I went to was VT in 08, seats near the student section. I love the student section, but my luck that n ight was a truly obnoxious drunk 2 rows down who was finally escorted out and a girl who barfed all over the row in front of her across the aisle. Not exactly what you wannt kids to see. And yes, it could happen at a day game also.
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Re: It wouldn't have worked with my kids. It would have kept
Sep 14, 2009, 11:16 PM
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Jesus, up past their bed times?
give me a break..... Jeez what are there like 5, 6 home games a year? so they cant stay up late ever?
that sucks....
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Fewer kids = more people at the appropriate age to provide
Sep 15, 2009, 10:21 AM
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yelling power for a hostile environment. In fact, we should get rid of many season ticket holders who just sit on their ### and don't make noise during the game. If you're going to sit on your ###, do it on your couch and let someone who wants to yell so hard and loud that he/she has a headache by the second quarter.
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Had this problem for years
Sep 15, 2009, 10:29 AM
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I actually got asked to sit down and shut up by the "old man" (Clemson fan) sitting in front of me at an NC State away game in the early eighties. Scary thing is I'm at least as old as that "old" man now LOL!
(But still yelling!!!)
In section UG I still hear "down in front" occasionally but not like I used to.
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Oculus Spirit [82288]
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That's how I plan on being whenever I get that age!
Sep 15, 2009, 10:33 AM
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I'll be in my 40's and try to use my student ID to sneak into the student section so I can stand and yell.
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He can't wait and his sisters (4 - twin, 3 - "gift from God"
Sep 15, 2009, 8:33 PM
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It's the 3 year-old's first game ever! We have a Clemson Band CD and they have been begging to hear it all week (actually for the past 3 weeks) so they can scream C-L-E-M-S-O-N. As a Clemson fan and alum, seeing their faces and the joy renews my spirit of the school.
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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Maryland in 1983 @ UGA in 1987 were both day games &
Sep 14, 2009, 10:15 PM
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the atmoshpere and noise were the equal of any game in the past 52 years.
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MIami game a few years back ... during day ... loudest ever.***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:22 PM
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3:30 game.... ended at dusk***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:25 PM
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Orange Blooded [2457]
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3:30 game, which is probably the best mix
Sep 14, 2009, 10:26 PM
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for everyone since it allows those from far away to funnel in during the day and then after those to leave early while those who want to tailgate can stay for a while.
Personally I like night (6 or after) or 3:30 the best.
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CU Guru [1332]
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I consider 3:30 to be a day game since, well, it's not night
Sep 14, 2009, 10:32 PM
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I agree with you, though, 3:30 is the best time unless it is not televised. Then, I'd prefer 2:00.
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Orange Blooded [3257]
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Remember when they were all a 2:00 & no Daylight Savings.***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:36 PM
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Don't give me your sappy I have kids story
Sep 14, 2009, 10:41 PM
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I am all for it, but don't push the excuse that you want 12 games just because it's good for you and your family. By that logic you are being selfish. What about caring for the rest of your "Clemson family". Kinda being hypocrtical here
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CU Guru [1332]
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Posting to yourself now? I assume you meant this post for
Sep 14, 2009, 10:46 PM
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me? And, no, I think there should 11 games and a playoff!
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Re: I consider 3:30 to be a day game since, well, it's not night
Sep 14, 2009, 10:42 PM
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3:30 is afternoon games to me. While 12 and 1 are day games (not a huge differentiation, I know). At least at 3:30 it cools some during the game and gets darker so by the 4th quarter the lights are on when the game may be on the line.
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All-Pro [665]
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Exactly what did I say about anyone son?
Sep 14, 2009, 10:45 PM
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I didn't bring up the question and nothing was said about anyone child. Quit being so sensitive
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2006 Clemson alumni
Sep 14, 2009, 10:47 PM
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But thanks for playing. Most of my childhood memories involve night games.
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CU Guru [1332]
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That explains everything, thanks. I'm sorry I bothered.***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: 2006 Clemson alumni
Sep 14, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Where, we only play a couple a year at home, at most.
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Athletic Dir [861]
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So, your discontent is driven by...
Sep 15, 2009, 10:25 AM
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a deep rooted desire to reconnect with your childhood. That's all you had to say. That's probably why I prefer day games. Man, T-net is awesome therapy.
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don't call people who disagree with you "idiots"
Sep 14, 2009, 10:19 PM
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Calling a fellow Clemson fan an "idiot" cheapens the logic of whatever argument you have, no matter what it is.
Preferring day games has nothing to do with one's mental capacity.
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Legend [19753]
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If you come on here putting people down for their opinion
Sep 14, 2009, 11:02 PM
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like these IDIOTS have been doing all day I will call you an IDIOT. Go cry about it.
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The old 'they did it first' argument huh?
Oct 5, 2009, 9:01 PM
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That's very mature.
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Your last sentence made me chuckle. Remember when they
Sep 14, 2009, 10:20 PM
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set up temporary lights vs MD in 85 (I think) so we could play at 3:30?
Uh oh. That memory will start the ACC conspiracy theorists again. It was an ugly finish.
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Wow---what a brat...only your opinion matters
Sep 14, 2009, 10:21 PM
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Please stay home....
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Legend [19753]
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No it's the opinion of most Clemson Fans.....***
Sep 14, 2009, 11:08 PM
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Try Maryland '83 and UGA '87 (both day games) for loud &
Sep 14, 2009, 10:21 PM
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total excitement. I don't know if they have been equalled during the past 52 years.
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2 of my favorite things: Balloons and Safeties!!!***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:26 PM
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Yeah the first game of the season was in the evening
Sep 14, 2009, 10:22 PM
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with a new coach, new year, and no TV and boy we sure filled the stadium on that Saturday - oh wait . . . . .
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MTST not even close to TCU***
Sep 14, 2009, 11:11 PM
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You lie ; - )***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:24 PM
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Re: I'm sick of all the idiots who are content with
Oct 5, 2009, 9:36 PM
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You act like a complete jack ###
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Only to those who have been ######### all day about this
Sep 14, 2009, 11:12 PM
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you must be one of them....
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Orange Blooded [2951]
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I admit
Sep 14, 2009, 10:41 PM
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I have never in my wildest dreams been a Div 1 football recruit. However, I have been an 18 year male about 14 years ago. 18 year old males are not hanging around their houses on Saturday nights watching college football. They may walk by a TV with a game on it from time to time, but their not watching. Most 18 year males have other things on their minds. I don't think this hurts recruiting. Most of these coaches are telling these recruits and their parent(s) everything they want to hear, and that's what their selling. Do you think they whip out video tapes and say "heres us on ESPN, September 26, 2009, during the TCU game! See we're on the tube. Come on people, buy a friggin ticket, and go to the game. Quit worrying about the petty stuff. We ain't in the SEC, and we never will be. One day the SEC will suck again, just like when Auburn went undefeated and they didn't get a chance.
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Legend [16051]
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It's all about the Money $$$$$$ Screw the fans.
Sep 14, 2009, 10:48 PM
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ESPN,CBS, WYFF, Raycom etc.... control the game times, plus the NCAA sold out to the almighty and basically screwed the fans.
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AMEN Brother, tell it like it is!
Sep 14, 2009, 10:50 PM
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POINT FOR YOU!
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Rooter [238]
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Re: I'm sick of all the idiots who are content with
Sep 14, 2009, 10:52 PM
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You are missing several points to your e-mail.
1. Coaches, AD's, or the City of a University want night games. The ONLY people that WANT or Perfer night games are the FANS. Period!
2. Coaches hate late games. It throws their schedule out of whack and they have to entertain and keep the players out of trouble, keep them focused longer, feed them an extra meal etc...
3. AD same thing....
4. City and University has to pay overtime for the police dept, SLED, etc. More arrest, longer hrs etc
5. The TV stations get their picks of the what games they want to carry...not the University's. The networks are the ones that choose. That is why it changes week to week. Rankings and outcomes of previous games determine networks choices. All they care about is ratings.
Just facts
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Orange Blooded [2951]
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Right On.***
Sep 14, 2009, 10:53 PM
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Legend [19753]
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Legend [16051]
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Just the facts: ESPN has made the NCAA very rich....plus
Sep 14, 2009, 11:20 PM
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All NCAA Colleges and Universities get a slice of the pie too.
Many Coach's and AD's lobby for TV exposure regardless of the game time.
And money drives the NCAA Train.
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We are a day game school period.
Sep 14, 2009, 10:55 PM
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Clemson is a day game school always have been, always will be. Get over it, if want to pull for a team that plays night games move to Louisiana and pull for LSU, if you want to stay close to SC go pull for the shamecocks. There are plenty of teams across the country that play a majority of their games in the day. In fact thats when most college games take place is in the day. Check your tv listings you will find a majority of College games are played during the day. The Florida Gators play a majority of their games during the day and they have won 2 out of the last 3 national titles. I like day games because I like the sunlight, as do alot of Clemson fans. Just face it day games are a Clemson tradition like the hill, the rock, and the big #### paw on the helmet
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Legend [19753]
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Check schools that have a program as good or better than
Sep 14, 2009, 11:14 PM
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Clemson and the majority of their games are 3:30 or after....
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CU Guru [1332]
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Because they WIN, #######.***
Sep 14, 2009, 11:15 PM
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Legend [19753]
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So a program as good as clemson wins more....nice logic
Sep 14, 2009, 11:19 PM
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there genius.
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Athletic Dir [861]
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I prefer your logic...
Sep 15, 2009, 10:29 AM
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that playing at night makes you a better program. If only our coaches had known it was so easy.
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Varsity [245]
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Noone in today's society is ever truly satisfied...
Sep 14, 2009, 11:20 PM
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Us old geezers used to just hear it from the loud mouth drunk dude 2 rows back. Now, Loud Mouth Drunk Dude can broadcast to thousands over the internet without fear of being punched, getting arrested, or having everyone know he peed his pants in the third quarter.
You make some good points, but you sure are loud.
Hawkman
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Legend [19753]
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I'm loud because I'm sick of the sarcasm that's been spewed
Sep 14, 2009, 11:29 PM
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all day long on here about fans being fed up with noon and 1pm kickoffs.
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Varsity [245]
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Lots of "Fans" on here are fed up with their lives man.
Sep 14, 2009, 11:41 PM
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Maybe it's therapeutic for them. Maybe it's therapeutic for you. Digital therapy, and free to boot. I feel better already.
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Athletic Dir [861]
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1,2,3,3, & 4...........all correct***
Sep 15, 2009, 9:34 AM
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Athletic Dir [861]
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I wish it were a night game because...
Sep 15, 2009, 10:10 AM
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that would mean that a network wanted to televise our game. I wish our team would earn that respect by winning football games. Unfortunately that hasn't happened yet. Since the game isn't going to be televised and the networks aren't dictating a night game Clemson has decided to play the game at our traditional start time of 1:00. I just don't see what the problem with that is. As far as comparing the atmosphere of day and night games goes, the reason the night games are more electric is because when Clemson plays a night game it means they have been forced to do so by a network. This means that the game is big enough on a national scale to warrant this attention. Naturally a bigger game means a more electric atmosphere whether it's day or night.
If you don't like the day game atmosphere then do your part to improve it. You wanna complain about the stadium not rocking but I bet you're one of the people sitting on their hands with their mouth shut at the games.
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What do you want us to do, Ron?
Sep 15, 2009, 10:25 AM
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It's not like we're voting on when a game actually starts.
None of us have any control over it. Folks are just saying why they like starting times when. It's really nothing to get upset about or, more importantly, nasty about.
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It's won,not one....***
Sep 15, 2009, 10:34 AM
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Settle down...you'll mess up your bow tie.***
Sep 15, 2009, 11:29 AM
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Bottom line is that had we beaten Ga Tech, we would have
Sep 15, 2009, 12:46 PM
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been on TV with a possible night game. We don't deserve better because we LOST.
I am not so sure the rest of the Nation gives a crap about a perceived mediocre Clemson team vs TCU.
Just win.
Go Tigers.
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Re: Bottom line is that had we beaten Ga Tech, we would have
Sep 15, 2009, 2:07 PM
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It sucks, but its true
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