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Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

Feb 13, 2012, 7:13 PM

That thread is getting much too big and I wanted to respond to your comments there "1st Scott was the logical guy to be interim HC, 2nd we should have cleaned house and started over regardless of who the interim HC was. Very little has changed under Dabo, we're still soft and can't develop players, esp the OL.

3rd someone new from the outside with a new staff would probably have made the changes we need with our S&C.

4th these last 2 recruiting classes are not consensus top 10 classes. In fact, if you average ESPN, Scout, and Rivals, this years class was 13th. Dabo's last 2 classes are pretty much even with TB's last 3 classes. You guys continually cherry pick the highest rating for Dabo's recruiting classes to compare to TB'S classes and act like that number is all that matters. ESPN, despite the conspiracy theories that ESPN hates us, typically ranks us highest. Rivals in typically considered the most accurate and most respected of the 3 main rankings.

5th recruiting is great, but we have been having consensus top 20, top 15 classes but still under achieving due to coaching. We continually get pushed around by smaller teams with far less talent. That's because of poor S&C and poor coaching."

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And also where you say "Regardless of how one feels about Dabo, anyone even remotely objective has to scratch their head over Dabo being made interim HC. Koenning was DC and an experienced ex-HC. Brad Scott was a NC winning OC and experienced ex-HC as well as Associate/Assistant HC under TB. And as far as position coaches go, Dabo was the one of the youngest and least experienced coaches on the staff. Not only that, one could easily argue our weakest and most poorly coached positions was WR under Dabo.

TB clearly had an agenda, as did TDP and Barker. There is no other way to explain this.

His supporters will try and sell us on the PR that Dabo was seen as a great up and coming coach, but that is absolute BS. His only experience was as a WR coach for the guy he played for in college, and family friend TB. The guy was a career position coach at 40 years old and not being sought after as a HC or coordinator at even small schools.

No other school in the country would make the decisions we did. And who listens to advice from the guy being run off? If TB knew what he was doing he'd still be HC."

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Placing Dabo as the interim head coach was not a head scratcher nor was it the product of an agenda by Tommy Bowden. First of all, Dabo was the assistant head coach. To me that would logically be the next person in line. Dabo was also recommended by many people to TDP as an up and comer in the coaching ranks and with the season seemingly lost, who better to get the opportunity to show what he could do?

In reality Clemson wanted nothing to do with VK. He might have been experienced as a Head Coach, but that experience only brought a 5-29 record including 1-21 in conference. He had no future there so there really wasn't a need to see what he could do. Brad Scott had no interest in being a head coach again and was one of the guys who helped push for the Dabo hire. Scott and Dabo have a great relationship and Dabo was almost like a protege of Scott's at Clemson.

Tommy had no agenda either. He had a great relationship with Dabo as well and genuinely felt he could help the Clemson program. While Tommy may have been pushed out the door, he was a smart enough man to know he was given more than enough time to accomplish certain goals and could not get them done. He's never shown any bitterness towards Clemson since he left and has stated on many occasions that if you don't win you won't have a job.

The fact is as TDP put it, he was pretty much warned by many people that he would sorely regret it if he let Dabo leave our program. From the first time he stepped on the field as a GA he was preparing to be a head coach. Dabo worked with a lot of great minds at both Bama and Clemson and watched and learned how each would go about their duties, all along carrying a notebook with him and jotting down everything that he felt was important. His hard work ethic and positive attitude were tough to ignore. You stated he might have been our worst coach, but he had a First or Second team all-ACC WR each year as a WR coach plus sent multiple players to the NFL. So much for not developing!

Now that he's a head coach he has done nothing but impress me. He's a born leader and has set up a support staff with him that is second to none in college football. He's been quick to correct mistakes he has felt he has made and our team has continued to improve.

You may knock him for a lot of things you think he does wrong, but I just don't see it. Add in the fact of all the great coaching minds he gotten to join him shows me he knows what he's doing. Assistants do their homework too. They want to know what they are getting into. To see the quality of coaches we are getting to come here shows me that Dabo has a lot of respect from a lot of people that think he is the right man for the job. BV took a lateral move from Oklahoma to come here. That tells me a lot of where people think this program is going.

I don't get your deal on recruiting either. It's been fantastic. So you say consensus is 13th? Fine, great! I'll take that any day. I love the talent and athletes he's pulling in.

For some reason you also harp on the fact that we are an extremely soft team and that makes us bad. Outside of you and STS I don't really hear many people talk about our team being that soft. In fact, I think we've gotten a lot tougher since the Bowden days. I will agree though we still need to be tougher than we are, but then again that's the same thing I hear from Dabo, Chad, and Brent. Were never gonna be a smash mouth team again, but I think we'll get to a point where we can be as much as the spread will allow. There's a ton of spread teams that score a lot of points and don't have the hogs on the OL. It's a product of the system and I personally don't have a problem with it. Defensively I have a ton of faith in BV getting his boys to win the los.

In 3 full seasons Dabo has taken us to 2 ACC title games, won 1, and taken us to a bowl all 3 years. Even in his "bad year" 5 of our losses were by less than a TD. There's still a lot left to accomplish, but we're moving in the right direction and things will only get better. There's a reason why you're in the minority on your opinions. Think about it!

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make examples like that you tend to forget about the other games that contradict what you say. What happened when we got down big early to Auburn? What about on the road by 18 vs Maryland in the 2nd half? VT was ready to run over us in Lane and then in the ACC title game when they were jacked up to show the world the first game was a fluke. What happened? FSU was the same thing.

I don't think we quit in the GT game, I think we just played sloppy. We did fairly well moving the ball and had a 4 yd rushing avg despite not having our to RB. We just made too many mistakes. Wofford I felt was a combination of a vanilla playbook and overlooking a scrappy team. If you want to say they pushed us around I won't argue that. It was just an average game.

The fact of the matter is we have far more games where you could say we were tougher physically and emotionally than we were soft. Are we where we want to be yet? I don't think so. I think we have some work to do, but as a whole I'm very excited where we are as a program. I for the life of me can't understand why you can't see that!

Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

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The longer Dabo is here and continues to improve, the

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Re: Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

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Re: Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

It's common knowledge the Sooners would've matched

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Re: Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

West Virgina would say our team is soft. So would usuck.

Being out-physicalled doesn't neccessarily mean you're soft

We flat quit after 1 bad play vs. GT ans WVU. We were

I'm not saying we don't have things to work on, but when you

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Re: Caddy I just can't agree with you on Dabo (Repost)

Bad years don't result in Championships & Coach of the Year

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