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CU Guru [1405]
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Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:26 PM
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So it didn't require an act of Congress.
Anyone gonna admit they were lied to yet?
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:31 PM
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:39 PM
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And remember how just yesterday it was impossible to NOT separate them? Trump is just gonna wave his magic wand and all those facts don't matter anymore!
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:47 PM
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"President Trump on Wednesday said he will sign "something" intended to end his administration's controversial practice of separating children from their parents who illegally cross the southern border.
"I’ll be signing something in a little while that’s going to do that," Trump told reporters at the White House. "I’ll be doing something that’s somewhat preemptive and ultimately will be matched by legislation I’m sure."
Details about the order remain unknown.
The move would be a major reversal for Trump and comes after the president and his top aides insisted for days that only Congress could halt family separations at the border."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393238-dhs-chief-heads-to-white-house-as-trump-reportedly-weighs-order-to
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Chuck Schumer won't be happy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:48 PM
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his odds of becoming Majority Leader just went down like an intern in a Clinton White house
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Re: Chuck Schumer won't be happy
Jun 20, 2018, 12:50 PM
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The audio and pictures of crying children will play on TV right up until election day.
This was a huge blunder. It's not going away.
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The blunder is in Congress. Always has been***
Jun 20, 2018, 12:53 PM
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Re: The blunder is in Congress. Always has been***
Jun 20, 2018, 1:49 PM
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A great line from a Republican Congresswoman today:
"Trump is now the arsonist who wants to play fireman by putting out the fire he started." - Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Fla.
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Trump started the fire that burned The House down.
Jun 20, 2018, 1:51 PM
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Maybe even The Senate too.
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Holy mixed metaphor Batman!***
Jun 20, 2018, 4:21 PM
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Meant to be a reply to above post.***
Jun 20, 2018, 4:32 PM
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no -he wanted congress to do it and they failed again
Jun 20, 2018, 12:52 PM
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the 535 lives on
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They failed, or it takes time?
Jun 20, 2018, 4:18 PM
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The thing is, this EO is probably illegal. Sounds like the House is voting on something tomorrow.
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how many decades do they need***
Jun 20, 2018, 4:59 PM
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They're voting on it tomorrow
Jun 20, 2018, 5:11 PM
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Nobody seemed to think of this as a crisis until this week.
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if they handle it like basic immigration since the 80's
Jun 20, 2018, 5:14 PM
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forgive me if i don't have much faith
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Oculus Spirit [97729]
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Finally took the time to dig down and research
Jun 20, 2018, 12:52 PM
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This is what Trump is operating under.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/507/292/case.pdf
The last few sentences of the Supreme Court's ruling explains the crux of the problem. It goes way back to policies added ad hoc over 30 years ago because Congress won't touch immigration. Still won't. I would hold Congress' feet to the fire over this. They refuse to enact reforms, and then complain about enforcement policies. They need to do their freaking job. The Supreme Court is basically screaming that this needs to be addressed by Congress (in 1997!). But in this case this is what we find.
"We think the INS policy now in place is a reasonable response to the difficult problems presented when the Service arrests unaccompanied alien juveniles. It may well be that other policies would be even better, but "we are [not] a legislature charged with formulating public policy." Schall v. Martin, 467 U. S., at 281. On its face, INS regulation 242.24 accords with both the Constitution and the relevant statute.
The judgment of the Court of Appeals is reversed, and the case is remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered.
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Again, you need to study this more....
Jun 20, 2018, 2:53 PM
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The Trump EO, as reported, is going to say the children shall not be separated from their parents while the parents are being held on federal immigration charges. This goes directly against a court ruling from 2015 in addition to other bits of law/rulings.
So either the judge has got to overturn her own ruling or the EO is going to be challenged by 50 different groups.
YOU see what happens and then YOU come back on here and report.
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 20, 2018, 5:43 PM
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This is great. Now Trump knows he can pick and choose the law he wants.
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 21, 2018, 6:28 AM
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now all we need is NK to launch a few for missile tests
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Re: Trump ending family separation policy
Jun 21, 2018, 7:13 AM
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smfh
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