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Legend [15492]
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Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
Oct 3, 2018, 3:04 PM
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The Republicans won't have enough votes.
His performance at the hearing doomed him.
Trump mocking Ford last night sealed it.
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I highly doubt the President's words...
Oct 3, 2018, 3:06 PM
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though disappointing they may be, will affect the vote, nor should it. That is about the President, not Kavanaugh. The judge did not mock Dr. Ford in this way, and should not be held liable for the President doing so.
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His performance at the hearing is the only reason...
Oct 3, 2018, 3:10 PM
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he's got a chance. Such an odd diversion of perception after that hearing. I don't see why Trump's behavior should have anything to do with it.
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Re: His performance at the hearing is the only reason...
Oct 3, 2018, 3:13 PM
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Making the accusation that this was "all a smear campaign to get revenge for the Clinton's" wasn't his finest moment.
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Which isn't exactly what he said
Oct 3, 2018, 3:35 PM
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He listed that as among the motivations he sees for a smear campaign.
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So he said it as an accusation about the hearing, yes?
Oct 3, 2018, 3:54 PM
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how is that different than how Felix interpreted it?
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Because he didn't say it was all a smear campaign...
Oct 3, 2018, 4:01 PM
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on behalf of the Clintons. He said this: "This whole two-week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit, fueled with apparent pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the Clintons, and millions of dollars in money from outside left-wing opposition groups."
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Oculus Spirit [83164]
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That’s just as bad.***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:05 PM
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Re: That’s just as bad.***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:08 PM
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But it's all true. He left out the fear that he will help over turn Roe vs Wade. That can us the Left's greatest fear.
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or worse.
Oct 3, 2018, 4:08 PM
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I don't understand what point Cam is trying to make here.
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it makes him sound like a partisan operative, not a judge
Oct 3, 2018, 4:11 PM
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which is pretty obviously true as well...
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I sure have heard partisan operative used a lot in the....
Oct 3, 2018, 4:38 PM
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last couple of days. That in the DNC mailer you got?
He's not, nor has he ever been a partisan operative. Anyone that says otherwise doesn't know what the term means.
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I guess we see what we want to see***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:51 PM
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what makes him a political operative in your opinion?***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:51 PM
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That statement makes him sound like one***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:59 PM
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thinking that it's a smear campaign....
Oct 3, 2018, 5:03 PM
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as retribution for Trump winning, etc... makes him a political operative?
I'll put you in the camp of not knowing what the term means.
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Re: It certainly makes him sound like one, yes.
Oct 3, 2018, 5:28 PM
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It also took him 3 years to get confirmed as a Federal Judge.
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Borking is not a talking point....
Oct 3, 2018, 7:29 PM
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It's the name invoked when describing someone being railed.
Question....do you really not believe the holding of the letter and not bringing it up during the hearing isn't a political hit job?
He clerked for judges, he worked in the independent council office, and he was an assistant to Bush II...that does not make him a political operative.
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Lol....yes, I know what it means***
Oct 3, 2018, 9:03 PM
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If he didn't do it...
Oct 3, 2018, 4:12 PM
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if he did do it, I'd move the attempted ###### up on his list of motivations for taking him down.
But maybe that's just me.
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Which just further illustrates the partisan nature of this
Oct 3, 2018, 4:26 PM
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At least partly because there was no corroborating evidence of Ford's claim. Maybe that's why Feinstein sat on the letter until after the initial hearing and never said anything about it. Or, perhaps, Feinstein sat on it because of Ford's request for privacy. But, then, why did somebody leak it? The whole process through which the Ford accusation became public suggests partisanship, even if the accusation is true.
But that's setting aside the gang rape and Deborah Ramirez accusation, neither of which should've ever been paid much attention to.
As far as the "if he didn't do it" part, wouldn't we expect someone who's claiming he didn't do it to say things somebody would say who didn't do it?
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Pretty sure it's the guilty ones who
Oct 3, 2018, 4:34 PM
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accuse the police of conspiracy against them during the questioning. Pretty much EVERY client I have ever represented who ranted about conspiracies and vendettas against them when confronted with accusations during questioning was lying their ### off.
Watching the post hearing re-trenching with this thing has been interesting. Some people even said, "I went to bed believing what she said, and wracked my brain to figure it all out, and this morning I realized that she's probably not truthful."
That's like an incredibly lucent retelling of cognitive dissonance taking over a person's belief system.
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man, that's weak....
Oct 3, 2018, 4:41 PM
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you put yourself in his place and assuming you are innocent, just about anyone would have reacted the same way. I would be suspicious if otherwise.
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But wait, he reacted meekly on Fox news
Oct 3, 2018, 9:12 PM
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So....suspicious?
I’m telling you, this guy was a lawyer and a judge, that outrage was fake. If it was real, it wouldn’t have happened right after Trump apparently said he looked weak on Fox.
And I’m telling you people get defensive for a reason.
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Lol....ok***
Oct 3, 2018, 11:02 PM
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In this case, is it even a "conspiracy"?
Oct 3, 2018, 4:59 PM
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Your clients are not really comparable to this situation. We're talking about completely uncorroborated claims being treated as true. The increasingly partisan nature of these hearing on Supreme Court nominations, and the actions of the Democrats on the committee, would suggest to anybody who thinks Kavanaugh is innocent that partisanship played a role in these accusations being taken seriously. Indeed, as I said, even if you think the Ford allegation is true, the way it was handled by Feinstein et al. suggests a partisan process.
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I disagree, they say all the same things
Oct 3, 2018, 9:15 PM
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Kavanaugh did - just about the “system” not Kavanaugh.
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Hey Joe....If Kavanaugh is telling the truth re: Dr Ford....
Oct 3, 2018, 4:33 PM
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then isn't this statement correct....given how it was held for 2 months by Feinstein?
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Hey everybody....Felix has a political opinion....
Oct 3, 2018, 3:11 PM
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come on inside and let's see what BS he's pumping today.....
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Re: Hey everybody....Felix has a political opinion....
Oct 3, 2018, 3:14 PM
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Why Flow my friend, are you suggesting that my biased opinion is any less valuable than your biased opinion?
Or do you only want to hear from those who agree with you? 
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Re: Hey everybody....Felix has a political opinion....
Oct 3, 2018, 3:33 PM
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Flow would use 250 words to say what could be said in 25 and think that makes his opinion more valuable.
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^^ been taken to the wood shed too many times on here :)***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:29 PM
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Re: Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
Oct 3, 2018, 3:41 PM
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I have been saying this since Friday. Kavanaugh's intelligence really has to be called into question after that performance.
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Re: Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
Oct 3, 2018, 3:43 PM
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Agreed. He's a privileged feat boy who never had to actually work for anything. All he ever had to do was kiss the right ###.
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I think throughout this whole ordeal, many peoples
Oct 3, 2018, 3:53 PM
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intelligence should be questioned. However, his isn't one of them. Looking at you people who believed the gang rape stuff and compared this to what Merrick Garland went though.
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Re: I think throughout this whole ordeal, many peoples
Oct 3, 2018, 4:06 PM
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nobody in here has given much credence to the alleged gang rape, it is the fact that the republicans are trying to usher in an another addle minded justice into the SCOTUS, we should all be concerned.
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Re: you've called him addled minded and a weak candidate....
Oct 3, 2018, 5:08 PM
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He said he was the victim of "revenge for the Clintons". Really? You think that is the statement of a qualified Supreme Court nominee who is credibly accused of sexual assault?
I get the whole innocent until proven guilty but this isn't a courtroom or a trial, it's a job interview.
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As stated in other thread...it's not a job interview....
Oct 3, 2018, 7:37 PM
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it's a confirmation hearing. The Senate's roll is not to hire...that is up the POTUS. The Senate's roll is to ensure he's qualified. No reasonable case can be made that he's not qualified based on his experience and professional career.
If he believes himself to be innocent, then his remarks are perfectly reasonable given how this was all handled. How else would one that is innocent respond? It's a political hit job that aims to ruin his name and career. I thought he was pretty well contained all-in-all.
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Agree, nor should he. If I had to bet my life savings
Oct 3, 2018, 4:04 PM
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on his guilt or innocence, I’d easily go with guilty.
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Re: Agree, nor should he. If I had to bet my life savings
Oct 3, 2018, 4:11 PM
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Don't go to Vegas and gamble. I'm sure you'll go broke in short order.
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Re: Agree, nor should he. If I had to bet my life savings
Oct 3, 2018, 4:14 PM
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You would lose a LOT of money considering the overwhelming evidence from multiple witnesses and source documents proving his innocence lol
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LOL, indeed.***
Oct 3, 2018, 4:34 PM
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Re: Kavanaugh will not be confirmed.
Oct 3, 2018, 4:06 PM
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Wrong.
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Trump was only stating facts.
Oct 3, 2018, 5:14 PM
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And we know how you feel about facts.
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