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CU Medallion [64837]
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HR experts (and general trouble-makers like myself)
Apr 16, 2020, 1:28 PM
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I have a "friend", let's call her "sarahadidas"...
She works for a large corporation in the medical field.
She normally works 3 12 hour shifts a week.
Ever since this Covid-19 thing came around, her hours have been cut anywhere from 5-20 hours per week.
Her employer has encouraged her and her coworkers to use their paid-time-off to make up for the lost hours.
She and her coworkers are now out of PTO and are still having their hours cut.
"Sarahadidas" emailed her boss and mentioned applying for partial unemployment.
Her did not reply to the email, but rather called her and told her, more or less, that she would be causing trouble by applying for unemployment and encouraged her not to apply. Boss also said to "give them a few weeks to figure out how to handle this" and tried to sweep it under the rug.
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To me, a non HR type, this sounds like her company is teetering on the edge of laying off too many people to apply for some sort of loan forgiveness and is relying on a female workforce that tends to go-with-the-flow to voluntarily go home and take a pay cut.
Am I being a negative nancy, or am I on to something?
I encouraged "Sarahadidas" to reply, via email, to her boss, cc their HR department and recap the phone conversation, asking for clarification something like...
Dear Boss and HR,
My understanding from our phone conversation today is that I have three options:
1. use my vacation to substitute
2. File for unemployment
3. work my full schedule of 36hrs per week.
Are my hours going to be maintained, because I no longer want to use my vacation time.
Regards,
"Sarahadidas"
I also encouraged her to apply for the unemployment, truthfully, and see what happens.
Any serious advice?
If not, how about some stupid jokes?
FYT:
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Oculus Spirit [85339]
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Sounds to me like if "SarahAdidas" was more respectul and
Apr 16, 2020, 1:42 PM
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paid more attentions to her boss's Thomas, this wouldn't be an issue.
I don't know. SC got that we can fire you at any time thing going on without reason but it legit sounds crappy. Have you consulted outside legal council?
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CU Medallion [64837]
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Tanks for nothing.
Apr 16, 2020, 2:10 PM
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I have no idea what a Thomas is.
and the boss is a woman.
I would think that even in SC, Sarahadidas may have a case that she was fired in retaliation for filing for partial unemployment, which is a big no-no, even in our state.
Does asking the lounge count as legal council? If so, then yes.
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Oculus Spirit [85339]
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Sorry, wasn't insinuating she could be fired....just
Apr 16, 2020, 2:15 PM
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referencing the lack of worker's rights in the state. Which I am mostly for, a lack of worker's rights as long as it doesn't impact me.
I sorta had the same thing happen to me.....Hey, why don't you take some vacation time so upper mgmt doesn't put you on leave of absence.
Ok, sure, phone call on day 1 of vacation, "McLovin, I'm sorry to tell you this, but you're being laid off".
WELL #### I coulda got one more day out of em if they didn't tell me to use time off with pay.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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agreed... and that sucks***
Apr 16, 2020, 2:16 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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What the eph?
Apr 16, 2020, 2:58 PM
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Someone who was tending bar can make more money being on unemployment?
Remember....UE is untaxed income. They'll want their taxes next year.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Those greedy bassturds.***
Apr 16, 2020, 4:58 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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feast or famine I suppose.
Apr 16, 2020, 5:00 PM
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Not sure those going on UE know they'll have to pay the taxes on that income at tax time next year though.
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Rock Defender [53]
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We know.***
Apr 16, 2020, 5:00 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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sometimes, I repeat myself.
Apr 16, 2020, 9:00 PM
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I repeat myself.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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I think that goes with out saying.
Apr 16, 2020, 5:54 PM
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Covid or not.
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Orange Blooded [3195]
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OK
Apr 16, 2020, 1:47 PM
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Every few days try on your jeans.Pajamas will make you feel like all is well in the kingdom.??
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CU Medallion [64837]
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wut?
Apr 16, 2020, 2:11 PM
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That was neither constructive nor a joke.
Plus, who are you?
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Re: Well, first
Apr 16, 2020, 1:47 PM
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I would advise her to ditch the fish net stockings. Then, maybe appeal to the boss about all the "stuff" she could do for him/her.
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Also, the letter clarifying the conversation...and maybe hinting about all the "stuff" she has already done for him/her, just to let them know she is serious. There probably is something going on with their business loan/grant request. They are maybe trying to play both sides of the fence. Not going to be a unique situation. Sooner or later some auditing will catch up to all that.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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I'm a fan of fish nets, and as her home boss, it's part of
Apr 16, 2020, 2:13 PM
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job.
Her "costume" at work is much more traditional.
If by "stuff", you mean being sent home and asked to take PTO, then I agree. I hope she hasn't done any other "stuff". But as long as the checks keep rolling in, I guess I don't care.
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Re: I'm a fan of fish nets, and as her home boss, it's part of
Apr 16, 2020, 2:28 PM
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I support ya'll's preference for fish net at home. Do you have difficulty finding your size and color? Keep that tractor revving!
There's going to be a lot of give and take in the workplace going forward. I'm afraid the repercussions of all this will be long lasting. Think long term with your decisions but exercise your rights. I'm sure her profession will be in demand with many opportunities. Sounds like they are asking for an employee financed furlough. Definitely get something in writing.
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Shut everything down...people will die***
Apr 16, 2020, 2:22 PM
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Heisman Winner [135609]
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Tell her to call the boss back and ask again.
Apr 16, 2020, 2:32 PM
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Record it. Then take that to every media outlet willing to listen. Sure, she gets fired and you guys eat dry dog food for a year or two...but when the book comes out and the movie rights are sold, THEN you're eating lobster tails made of gold on a yacht made of silk.
It's called 'sacrifice'.
DUH.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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SOLD!***
Apr 16, 2020, 3:20 PM
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All-In [47841]
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we are in the middle of a pandemic and her hours
Apr 16, 2020, 3:58 PM
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are being CUT? How does that happen? Hospitals are hiring like crazy. My wife starts a new job next week.
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Oculus Spirit [79253]
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You could not be more wrong. Prisma alone has laid off 3900
Apr 16, 2020, 4:03 PM
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ryanadidas good luck at filing for unemployment. Probably be easier to get a pig of big foot right now. My wife applied like 3 weeks ago and still hasn't gotten a call back (that wasn't an after hours robo-response that essentially said see our website).
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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MUSC just laid off 900
Apr 16, 2020, 4:58 PM
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frand of works in MUSC ICU and had two shifts in March.
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How large of a corporation? Greater than 500?***
Apr 16, 2020, 4:59 PM
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If it’s who I’m thinking, 32,000 employees.
Apr 16, 2020, 5:05 PM
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Officially 3,900 affected either by furlough or reduced hours. Although I firmly believe the number is much higher as the snakes always pad the stats.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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It starts with a P
Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM
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and ends with a risma... so yea, they're huge.
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Re: If it’s who I’m thinking, 32,000 employees.
Apr 16, 2020, 6:14 PM
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Nearly all of the RN's that I am aware of have had reduced hours. I firmly believe that they are relying on the fact that most are women and tend to not question authority, or whatever, and have duped them into funding their own personal fruloughs through paid time off.
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I would take that money while she can
Apr 16, 2020, 6:44 PM
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I am worried about Prisma. I think they got led down a bad path by their former leader.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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You are 100% correct on that.
Apr 16, 2020, 9:02 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a Prisma fire sale soon.
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i can't answer your question 'cause i don't know, but
Apr 16, 2020, 5:25 PM
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something sounds fishy if a corporation in the medical field is laying off people during a medical crisis.
is there really a crisis?
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One of these days I will have to tell you what
Apr 16, 2020, 5:54 PM
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one of my former bosses did before and after I cc'd him in an email to HR.
Boy that was fun times.
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Also, and I'm pretty sure
Apr 16, 2020, 5:57 PM
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the company has to pay a part of unemployment or something. So they are trying to hold their workers in limbo so they don't have to pay unemployment while also not paying them a salary.
I say #### em and call that hot reporter person.
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All-TigerNet [11640]
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She needs to write her boss back, copy HR
Apr 16, 2020, 8:04 PM
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And state everything that happened.
She has reduced hours now. She can file for partial UE benefits. She should file.
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CU Medallion [64837]
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Apr 16, 2020, 8:48 PM
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Thanks for bringing the thread back on track.
Also thanks for affirming (or is it confirming... and is there a difference) what I already thought.
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