wait? you're complaining about Dems and conspriracy theories

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Re: I thought people were joking

Oct 29, 2018, 12:08 PM

What is really interesting to me is how the "conspiracy theories" are taking root among moderate Americans.

What interesting is, more people in the moderate demographic are suspicious that the MAGA Bomber, Caravan, and Synogogue Shooting are all invovled in some type of state-sponsored conspiracy than not. I work for a very, very large corporation, and most of my coworkers (inclouding ones in california) have suspicions that some division or group within the Democrats or "The Left" was behind these events. At the very least, they believe the Democrats are being opportunists and trying to profit off of the PR from these events (using them to push the idea that "All Republicans support bombing and slaughtering innocent political opponents"). At the very worst, some of these people believe actors within the "Left Wing" establishment orchestrated these things.

Whats very interesting is that these theories are not coming from the far-right fringe. They are being born and perpetuated by the moderates and the "normal, average people".

What is clear, is that the MAGA Bomber and Synogogue shooter were individuals that are not associated with a particular political party. They are deranged, mentally unstable individuals. The MAGA Bomber was a lifelong registered Democrat and militant DNC supporter until 2016, when he suddenly and mysteriously flipped his allegiance to Trump. That is not necessarily indicative of a conspiracy, but could be indicative of a mental illness. Look at his van and past patterns of behavior.

The support for these conspiracy theories is not, however, a true belief in them. Rather it is a symptom of what America is feeling, and that is currently a widespread and rampant distrust for the Democrat party. When there is mass distrust of a political party, typically the bad parts of political events get attributed to that party.

And can you blame America for its lack of trust in the Democrats? This is a party who held near absolute power for 8 years under the previous President, and instead of doing things that were productive, they appealed to the most radical, angry, fringe groups among their base, and they encouraged horrific rhetoric against the American public. Calling the average America a white privileged, racist, homophobic, basket of deplorables will not get you much support. On top of that, their policies and taxes wrecked our economy, they lied to the American people, they made international diplomatic decisions that put the US at a disadvantage internationally, and they marred the previous administration with various illegal scandals, such as the IRS targeting political opponents, Fast and Furious, NSA five eyes, rigging the DNC's own primaries, etc.

Remember how the Gamecocks treated Clemson when they had the 5 in a row streak over us a few years ago? The Coots could have been classy and respectful when they beat us 5 times in a row. Were they? Nope, their awful antics only got worse, and they exhibited the most abhorrent treatment of a rival I think I have ever seen in college sports. Thats how Democrats treated the US when they held total power under the Obama administration, and it has alienated much of the country, to the point that even moderate people in the US would rather believe a conspiracy theories than anything else. That is sad, and that is also why Trump won.

And now, after Trump has been in office for some time, and achieved some very positive accomplishments for this country, the Demcorats choose to double down. They push for investigations, impeachment, they repeatedly spread lies about any Republican they can, and they eve trumped up false sexual assault charges against a SCOTUS nominee.

In 2018 and 2020, Republicans can sit down and present the American people with a report that has hard numbers on how they have improved the country. Republicans can sit down and prove with hard numbers how they have lowered taxes, grown the economy, reduced unemployment across all demographics, reduced illegal immigration, etc. The Republicans can show real, hard numbers and metrics that show their policies are working and working to the benefit of the American people.

In 2018, and 2020, the Democrats have ONLY been running on the idea of "ORANGE MAN BAD. TRUMP IS A FASCIST. TRUMP HAS SMALL HANDS. TRUMP IS AN IDIOT, WE HATE TRUMP. IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!"

That's not called a political platform, that's called a childish tantrum. And that is not what Americans want running this country.

That is why the midterms are trending HARD red. That is why Trump is about to hit a 50% approval rating. That is why 2020 is looking strong for Trump. That is why the next generation, Gen Z, is currently looking like it will be the most Republican/Conservative minded generation in the history of this country, moreso than the "Baby Boomer" generation.

Liberalism is a dying ideology in the US, and it is dying very quickly in supernova-esque fashion.

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They're more like the "radical center" that lacks the moderating influence of institutions. In my experience, most of these people are only moderate in the sense that they have no strong political commitments, except to the idea that they're being screwed by somebody somewhere else. So they become cynical about existing institutions and susceptible to theories which explain that there are always occult powers at work. In some ways, that's more comforting than realizing your own responsibility. And all stripes of radicals are susceptible to this way of thinking, not just those on the right, left, or center.

Liam Donovan wrote about this "radical middle" here: https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/02/donald-trump-moderate-republican-blue-collar-coalition/

Matthew Contineti also wrote about the radical middle here: https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/07/donald-trump-radical-revenge/

"Two decades ago, in the spring of 1996, Newsweek magazine described a group of voters it called the “radical middle.” Formerly known as the Silent Majority, then the Reagan Democrats, these voters had supported Ross Perot in 1992, and were hoping the Texas billionaire would run again. Voters in the radical middle, Newsweek wrote, “see the traditional political system itself as the country’s chief problem.”

The radical middle is attracted to populists, outsiders, businessmen such as Perot and Lee Iacocca who have never held office, and to anyone, according to Newsweek, who is the “tribune of anti-insider discontent.” Newt Gingrich rallied the radical middle in 1994 — year of the Angry White Male — but his Republican Revolution sputtered to a halt after the government shut down over Medicare in 1995. Once more the radical middle had become estranged from the GOP. “If Perot gets in the race,” a Dole aide told Newsweek, “it will guarantee Clinton’s reelection.”

Well, here we are again, at the beginning of a presidential campaign in which the Republican Party, having lost its hold on the radical middle, is terrified of the electoral consequences. The supporters of Reagan and Perot, of Gingrich and Pat Buchanan, have found another aging billionaire in whom to place their fears and anxieties, their nostalgia and love of country, their disgust with the political and cultural elite, their trepidation at what our nation is becoming.

A brash showboat and celebrity, self-promoter and controversialist, silly and mocking, a caricature of a caricature, Donald Trump is no one’s idea of a serious presidential candidate. Which is exactly why the radical middle finds him refreshing. Not an iota of him is politically correct, he plays by no rules of comity or civility, he genuflects to no party or institution, he is unafraid of and antagonistic toward the media, and he challenges the conventional wisdom of both parties, which holds that there is no real cost to illegal immigration and to trade with China."

I thought people were joking

Think he’s goofin on someone else who said that.***

okay. i had a confuse

That line is what was said by these

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Link to anyone doing this.***

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Did you miss the part

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And this attracts extremists with mental issues

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I actually agree

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Re: I thought people were joking

This just tells you that they're not really "moderates"

Russian collusion is not a joke.

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