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Jan 9, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Question for licensed engineers-
My county requires buildings more than 1 floor in height be stamped by an engineer or architect.
I'm designing a garage addition that essentially has the 2nd floor built into the rafters. The rafters will be tied to the ceiling joists to prevent outward thrust. At the center of the building I have designed one engineered laminate beam to carry the load of the 2nd floor.
I will be doing all of the construction myself.
Is it an ethics violation if I stamp these plans if structural isn't my specialty? It's pretty basic stuff that's all in the IRC (with the exception of the laminate beam - however still easy to calculate the PLF of the beam) and its my house (which I feel like plays a big factor here as well).
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All-In [46825]
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It'll work.
Jan 9, 2020, 12:49 PM
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and if it doesn't just get a floor jack and a 2x4
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Oculus Spirit [75725]
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Of course it is unethical. You are taking money away from
Jan 9, 2020, 12:54 PM
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somebody who'd come out and put that stamp on without paying much attention to the details of what you are doing.
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Oculus Spirit [79260]
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axing teh joung about ethics....
Jan 9, 2020, 12:55 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Like my diddy always said
Jan 9, 2020, 1:51 PM
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"Son, there is no right or wrong as long as you end up benefitting"
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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It being your house doesn't matter.
Jan 9, 2020, 1:02 PM
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If it collapses on yours and your neighbors kids, are you prepped to sue yourself, and be sued?
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yep, I was gonna say its only important to the NEXT owner
Jan 9, 2020, 1:18 PM
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when if falls on them and they sue you.
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Hall of Famer [23994]
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I CYA'd and got it stamped by a PE
Jan 9, 2020, 1:25 PM
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Will my PE insurance cover it?
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Re: I CYA'd and got it stamped by a PE
Jan 9, 2020, 1:31 PM
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Yes.***
Jan 9, 2020, 1:32 PM
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built into the rafters?
Jan 9, 2020, 1:52 PM
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draw a triangle
Jan 9, 2020, 1:56 PM
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Now look at the big hole in the middle bounded by all 3 sides
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CU Medallion [54758]
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but, a Triangle, and not an "A", right?
Jan 9, 2020, 1:57 PM
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those joist be sittin' on walls/plates, right?
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Re: but, a Triangle, and not an "A", right?
Jan 9, 2020, 1:59 PM
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joists resting on the top plate of the walls. Who frames a roof like an A?
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CU Medallion [54758]
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sounded like YOU might've been...
Jan 9, 2020, 2:00 PM
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i think we're cool now.
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It's a wide building
Jan 9, 2020, 2:02 PM
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to be able to put a room up there with a 7/12 pitch. Stick framing so I don't have to rent a crane
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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that's still a triangle***
Jan 9, 2020, 2:12 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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With living space up there?***
Jan 9, 2020, 2:12 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Mater bedroom and a bathroom***
Jan 9, 2020, 2:17 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Or master, whichever is better***
Jan 9, 2020, 2:17 PM
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