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Topic: What’s with the complaining about students yesterday?
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What’s with the complaining about students yesterday?

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:12 AM
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Were a lot of student tickets not used?

Were students not loud enough?

I realize it’s trendy on TigerNet to characterize students today as being less devoted to football than the “good old days” when you were a student and never missed a second of any game and yelled and cheered even when you went to take a leak. But it’s ridiculous to see all the whining after pretty much every game about students not living up to your standards.

I have some news for you: most students don’t go to college for the football. They go because they want an education. Those who are passionate about football are generally very involved and loud. Please show them some grace, especially since we are in the middle of a pandemic and they are in the process of returning to in-person classes.

Oh, and we also piped in noise yesterday and won by 49 points. I don’t think the team suffered because there weren’t enough “hard core” students there.

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Are you suggesting student support has little to do with team

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:14 AM
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success?

Noted.




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No, that’s not what I’m saying at all.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:19 AM
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Under usual circumstances, student support has a lot to do with creating a home field advantage. I don’t think that was a factor in yesterday’s game though, with only 19,000 fans, piped in noise, and a 49 point win.

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Ahh... So in summary

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:22 AM
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Lack of student support had little to do with team success yesterday.




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That only applies to men’s basketball.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 1:25 PM
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C’mon man!!!

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 2:15 PM
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Re: What’s with the complaining about students yesterday?

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:18 AM
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The upper deck where they were supposed to be seated looked pretty bare from the shots of the stadium on TV (especially the side above the lower student section)


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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:21 AM
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winning has more to do about recruiting and coaching


South deck picture after team ran down the hill......


Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:23 AM
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You make the call. Does seem to me the system should exist to allow students that want to attend to fill up the 2300(?) seats up there. I mean we do have a 20,000-ish student body now, right?

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Re: South deck picture after team ran down the hill......


Posted: Sep 20, 2020 11:46 AM
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With the limit on the number of fans allowed, the IPTAY money drove the students out of their normal sections and into the upper deck. Be glad for the students that came to the Citadel game (not really a game). Remember the University could have made the same decision as ND to only allow students, faculty/staff and player parents in the stands.

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Posted: Sep 21, 2020 10:11 AM
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Deck south.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:27 AM
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It appeared that tickets for half of the student section were not issued. Does anyone have information on what happened? Was there a glitch in the online signup process or lack of interest from the students?


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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:46 AM
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COVID

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Re: What’s with the complaining about students yesterday?

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 11:37 AM
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It wouldn’t surprise me if a glitch happened. My kid had a ticket earlier in the week. Then it disappeared and they were told they had been issued by mistake. She didn’t get one again when they supposedly ran the lottery. On top of that, they pretty much tested the entire student body for COVID this week so they had to clear that too. I’m guessing there will be more there for UVA and Miami.

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Posted: Sep 21, 2020 11:10 AM
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Re: What’s with the complaining about students yesterday?

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:52 AM
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Well I can tell you my daughter and my lifelong best friend's son...yep they're both freshmen in the bridge program...bought tickets off stubhub. Not going to a game in Death Valley was NOT even an option! I don't know how the ticketing allotment/turnout actually was, but I hope if there were any leftover or unused tix the athletic dept figures something out goin forward.


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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 10:56 AM
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I only went to 5 games while at Clemson. I hate crowds. I watch every game that is televised. You couldn't pay me to go to a game.

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Yesterday’s game had a predetermined outcome.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 11:23 AM
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The opponent was simply undermanned and had less overall talent. The entertainment value was lower because the competitiveness was lacking. Candidly can’t blame fans for being less enthusiastic than normal.

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Re: Yesterday’s game had a predetermined outcome.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 11:44 AM
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You're correct but when considering there's only a few games left to see a couple future HOF'ers, you'd think any game would be a must see if it's feasible to be there. Especially in the same year that a National C'ship is a possibility. Oppurtunities like these don't grow on trees.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 1:04 PM
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El Cid seemed pretty competitive in the second half. Held off our top rated freshmen. I give them kudos for that.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 11:50 AM
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About how to spend their free time.

This issue will not be going away (once pandemic is over).

1. We should carefully consider before doing anymore expansion to the stadium.

2. I don’t think students should be placed in the upper deck under any circumstances. They need to be down low, where they can influence the game.

3. We still had a number of procedural penalties called against the Citadel yesterday, even with reduced capacity.

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I disapprove of piped in music or crowd noise!!!!!!

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Posted: Sep 20, 2020 12:02 PM
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And I 2nd this motion.

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Re: Judge, I agree to an extent. Kids today have many more options


Posted: Sep 20, 2020 2:22 PM
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Don’t blow your first two points by making a ridiculous 3rd point. In no way was the crowd a factor in the game - let alone causing an offsides.

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Re: Judge, I agree to an extent. Kids today have many more options


Posted: Sep 20, 2020 9:54 PM
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I take issue with your 2nd item. Here are my reasons:

1. I have been a member of IPTAY since 1976. I've increased my contribution a few times and get 8
seats in the South lower bowl. My 8 tickets have been reduced to 2 in the North lower bowl. I've
had these 8 tickets for 30 plus years.

2. I'm one of the loudest fans in my section. I get in my seats 15/20 minutes before kickoff and stay
until the end of our Alma Mater.

3. If you can do the maff, you'll know that I'm pretty old.

With your best logic please present your argument of why I should give 2 students my lower bowl seats for 2 upper deck seats. I imagine there are statistics for this, but I have no idea how many students will join IPTAY, buy season tickets, or even return for individual games. Talking with some of my fellow alumni I'm confident most of the lower bowl ticket holders are in situations similar to mine.

If you can't come up the logic to support your argument, a simple you're right, you win is acceptable.


Re: Judge, I agree to an extent. Kids today have many more options


Posted: Sep 21, 2020 4:08 PM
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Based on your age you sat in the lowers as a student. I know there were no uppers then, but you did sit in the lowers and had better lowers than the students have today.

Clemson is a school and not the Panthers. The environment is set by the students. This is why many of love college over pro.

I am sure if a game goes into OT no one is concerned about where you are sitting in determining which side of the field they are playing on.


Re: Judge, I agree to an extent. Kids today have many more options


Posted: Sep 21, 2020 9:08 PM
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I did have good tickets. Freshmen sat in Sec A, Soph in Sec B, Jr in Sec C, and in Sec D and part of E.

Let's do a little math about your 2nd paragraph. I'm guessing students get 18,000 or so tickets. With the opposing team getting 5,000/7,000 that leaves 55,000 tickets for what is mostly alumni and IPTAY members. If you truly think the students set the environment with one third as many fans in the stands you need to go back to school and take some course that that covers acoustics. It may also help you to come down to the West Zone and listen for yourself.

If a game goes into OT I could probably sit anywhere I want. Particularly if it's a night game and the Tigers were ever behind.

As I said in my other post a simple you're right, you win is acceptable.


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