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Front Page Story: Commentary: Name Redacted way off in his observations

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:12 PM
 

Commentary: Name Redacted way off in his observations

College football recruiting is a big-time business these days, a fact understood by everyone involved. But when the people who make money off of these young men starting blasting them in the media, it takes on an undeserved and hypocritical agenda. Full Story »


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If we're smart, we'll leave this subject alone and let it go

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:17 PM
 

If you keep beating a dead horse and making a big deal of this, it won't go away and we may end up losing our top recruit!

Robert already squashed it! Let's all move on!

GO TIGERS!


Did you read the article?

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:22 PM
 

Necessary and right on...

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Where is this article? AJC? Link?***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:58 PM
 



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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:07 PM
 

The article and headline have already been changed on AJC and hopefully the writer is giving his exit interview.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:21 PM
 

Here is the link. You can see the article's old headline in the url but they changed it once the fire storm started.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/07/07/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-can-seal-the-deal-if-they-offer-another-grayson-teammate/


P.S. I tried to edit my previous post but I guess that is a premium feature?


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:51 PM
 

This it the name redacted article by that ###### greg Doyle
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/19540758/bluechippers-scholarship-proposal-to-clemson-isnt-noble-its-indecent


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:26 PM
 

Holy crap this is way worse than what I thought he was talking about.


This guy calls himself a journalist and is critical of


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 8:18 PM
 

others to such a point? He needs to get somebody to toss him a rope to get him out of his own cesspool - he's not 17 anymore and should know enough to show some class. Way worse than the original AJC article.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2012 3:36 PM
 

I knew David when he was 17 and I can assure you that while he may have been a self described "piece of work" he was not a bad kid at all. I still have the utmost respect for he and his family.
If he was part of the "cesspool" he would have named names. Think about it. Read his articles. None of them and I mean none of them are mean and spiteful. That's because David is not a mean spiteful person and never has been.


Greg Doyle does blow...


Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:36 AM
 

I wrote him a time or two before :)


Doyle is a blowhard with that spins venom into profit.


Posted: Jul 13, 2012 10:05 AM
 

In 2000, after our undefeated season deflated in epic fashion, he wrote an opinion piece in the Raleigh N&O about how Clemson fans were delirious, and unreasonable expectations, and deserved to be taken down a notch. (As if the previous 8 years hadn't already accomplished that for us.)

I sent him an email and basically told him take it easy - we're fans for our own reasons for supporting our team and aching when the team looses. His hate fest with Clemson fans - and any other fan base for that matter is the most juvenile response. I also said something about how he sounded like he was in the middle of a roid-induced rage fest. He responded and said that comment made him laugh. So at least he has (or had) a sense of humor.

Which brings me to this - Doyle says manifestly unreasonable things and trades in half-truths and innuendo. But he does it for a reason - it drives visits to his site. Doyle has figured out that publicity, whether good or bad, increases hits, which then translates in to increased advertising sales. Thus, the very act of liking to his article on TNet, even if to point out how egregious his writing is, is actually helping him out. Mickey is to be commended for his judgment in redacting his name and omitting the link to the website. My own recommendation: try to resist the urge to visit his site, if you can...

Finally, Doyle is an equal opportunity offender. He's gone after just about anyone and everyone that has an active fanbase that, when worked up over his latest diatribe, will predictably visit his site en masse. So don't take his lunatic rantings personally. Its just Gregg being Gregg. And being very profitable...


Yes, I read the article. This is old news.


Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:35 AM
 

Robert already squashed it.


For some reason it won't allow me to give you a thumbs down

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:29 PM
 

so this is it.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:59 PM
 



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that's absurd...


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:51 PM
 

basically allow someone to bully you.


"O'Doyle rules!!"

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:21 PM
 

Good column.

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Re: You could insert several names instead and not


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:26 PM
 

miss a beat.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:21 PM
 

that was some fine reporting right there, sir. Awesome work, and excellent research journalism that conveyed both fact and opinion without confusing the two.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:21 PM
 

I kinda feel sorry for Name Redacted. He should feel like an imbecil.

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I don't feel the least bit sorry for that scum-bucket

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:28 PM
 

Gregg Doyel ... uh, I mean ... Name Redacted

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Bingo! Thank you Mr. Hood!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:22 PM
 

By the way, I read the baseball articles. ;)


Great story, David. Probably one of the best

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:23 PM
 

Of yours that I have read. Keep up the good work!

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Good stuf!!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:23 PM
 

Thanks for writing this.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:25 PM
 



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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:27 PM
 

Way to Bring It, David!! Amen, my thoughts to a T.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:28 PM
 

Wow I wish I had 4 Hand to give this more thumbs up!

Awesome article and Name Redacted can go f himself.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:01 PM
 

I agree. This was a great read. I could feel the emotion in this one.

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Excellent job David***

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:28 PM
 



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David Hood, thank you. It needed to be said.***

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:29 PM
 



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Re: Front Page Story: Commentary: Name Redacted way off in his observations

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:30 PM
 

If it was Alabama, LSU, or any other "mighty" SEC school, then nobody would be saying anything. The fact that the #1 recruit in country coming from Georgia and going to Clemson is just eating the media up alive. They can't stand that fact the he's going to Clemson and they're trying to rip this deal apart.


Sic 'im, David!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:36 PM
 

Your story should be picked up by a national news outlet. Greg, er, Name Redacted, should be shown to be the Clemson-hating HACK that he is. What a bag of garbage.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:37 PM
 

would this imply when the name was still visible it was dacted?

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Who is name redacted? Doyle? Kornhole? Caravell?


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:39 PM
 

so many idiots


Re: Who is name redacted? Doyle? Kornhole? Caravell?


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:44 PM
 

In this case, Doyle. He has the biggest case of Clemson-envy ever. Takes a cheap shot every chance he gets.

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Re: Who is name redacted? Doyle? Kornhole? Caravell?


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:28 PM
 

From Gregg Doyle's article:

"So this is wrong, a big-time recruit named Robert Nkemdiche trying to finagle a scholarship for a much smaller-time recruit named ... wait, you know what? I'm not going to make it worse for the much smaller-time recruit by naming him. It's not (name redacted)'s fault that Nkemdiche is trying to leverage his status into a scholarship for a friend. He doesn't deserve the scrutiny that has come, and will get worse, because of this. Google doesn't forget, so this will follow (name redacted) wherever he goes, and while I'm not exactly saving (name redacted) that anguish by refusing to print his name, I'd rather not add to his woes. This isn't his fault.

It's not Clemson's fault, either. Not yet, anyway. If Clemson offers (name redacted) a scholarship? Well, sure. Then it would be Clemson's fault, because giving (name redacted) a $37,000 scholarship just to win the services of Nkemdiche would violate the spirit of the NCAA rulebook.

Would the NCAA have the gumption, the nerve, to pursue Clemson? No, probably not. The NCAA would hide behind the same thing that Clemson fans are hiding behind now: Maybe (name redacted) is worth the scholarship on his own merit!

Which is garbage. Until last week, (name redacted) was indeed a Division I football recruit, but not at Clemson's level. Clemson recruits from the back of the menu, choosing between filet mignon and lobster tail. Until this week, (name redacted) was at the front of the menu with the chicken fingers and potato skins. He was listed as a two-star recruit by some services, with offers from non-BCS schools Arkansas State, Georgia State, Southern Miss and Tulane.

(Name redacted) also was offered by one BCS school, but put an asterisk on that sucker. The school is Ole Miss, which was surely working its own angle to get Nkemdiche -- whose older brother already plays for the Rebels"


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:21 PM
 

wow what a doosh. comparing a 17 year old kid to chicken fingers and potato skins. Unreal....


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:39 PM
 

Very well done. I read the Name Redacted story and was wondering how many other people across the nation were reading that embarrassing mess. Hope this article makes it viral as well. I also hope Robert reads it and learns who he can count on.Thanks


This is great work. Thanks for the contribution.....


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:40 PM
 

as well as all you do for the site.

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This needs to be sent to name redacted...CBS sports?***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:42 PM
 

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:42 PM
 

Excellant article David, way to tell it like it is. Would say the same thing if ir were about another team's recruit. There are others, some in the state are just as sleazy as name redacted.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:43 PM
 

Typo- if it were


Very well done! Like David 78 said above, would like to see

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:42 PM
 

this story picked up nationaly

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Don't you have to work with that turd?


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:47 PM
 

Kick
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That is all


Is Name Redacted related to Your Name Here


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:50 PM
 

from the artist renderings of the stadium expansion?

Good article.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:57 PM
 




Re: Front Page Story: Commentary: Name Redacted way off in his observations


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:54 PM
 

Bravo!!! Excellent!!! Thank You!!!


Get'em David!!! Curious though...


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:57 PM
 

"recruiting stories get more hits than any other kind of article on our site – an article about a 16-year old in Florida will get five times the number of hits over a Clemson baseball story. An article about a 17-year old in Georgia who “narrows” his list to 20 will get 10 times the number of hits than a Clemson basketball story."

Thats because Clemson fans live and breath football! Would be curious what the stats are on a football article vs a football recruiting article


As fans and our suporters of...


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:59 PM
 

Clemson university I believe we should stand by our Tigers, support and protect them from such nonsense. We are after all family.

We should also stand for what is right and be that beacon for all to come to.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:06 PM
 

These kids are the luckiest and the unluckiest kids in the world. Idiots (include myself here) do hang on every word these kids say. Leave em alone and let em be kids for a little while. Have some faith in our coaching staff. They've earned it.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:12 PM
 

David... I am proud to be a fellow tiger fan with you. Very well said and well done.


Very well said!***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:13 PM
 



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When I was seventeen

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:15 PM
 

I drank some very good beer,
I drank some very good beer I purchased with
a fake ID,
My name was Brian McGee,
I stayed up listening to Queen,
When I was seventeen.

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Don't want to mention any names, but the guy's initials are


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:26 PM
 

Gregg Doyel

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It also rhymes with


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:26 PM
 

Gregg Doyel

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and can be found here


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:00 PM
 

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/19540758/bluechippers-scholarship-proposal-to-clemson-isnt-noble-its-indecent


Re: and can be found here


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:03 PM
 

Also read the Bruce Feldman article.

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Excellent Rebuttal


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:35 PM
 

Nothing better than the facts!

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Thank you Mr. Hood!


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:38 PM
 

Can someone confirm that they have emailed this excellent piece to Gregg Doyel?

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:48 PM
 

great job david this needs to be a front page story in all the newspapers that did the opposite of this article


excellent article on both....


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:49 PM
 

The fact that recruits are still very much kids...some of them less mature than others.
Also, there is so much poor journalism out there that it makes the trade look bad over all. Some of these guys are just trying to get a reaction and don't care who they step on in the process.

Thanks for the reality check David!


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 5:58 PM
 

Excellent job David!

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Awesome reply David! That story had me livid when I read it***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:02 PM
 




One of the best articles ever on any Clemson website***

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Typical Doyel.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:12 PM
 

He has no actual journalistic talent, so he just writes a bunch of inflammatory crap in hopes of pissing off fan bases to get readers.

He's basically an internet troll that somehow gets paid for it by a major network.


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:17 PM
 

Get 'em David!

Awesome article!


Excellent post. I hope you have sent this to Doyel and CBS


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:26 PM
 

Sportsline. I think it is outrageous that Doyel could right such a judgmental article without doing one ounce of homework.


I sent it to him!***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:47 PM
 




Doyle, that was a sh!tty thing to do....

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:40 PM
 

Why, if I had a rubber hose I would beat you... :)


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:41 PM
 

Yes, I congratulated Yahoo for their great copied report and non-follow up.


I hope someone sends this to Greg Doyle***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:45 PM
 




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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:49 PM
 

I did and you can too!
http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/doyel


I did too***


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:51 PM
 

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Hear hear. I never click on GD stories or CBSSports in

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 6:58 PM
 

general. He represents the worst about sports. He's a paid mouthpiece for haters, and I have no interest in supporting him or a website that would pay him to write.

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Re: Hear hear. I never click on GD stories or CBSSports in


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 11:50 PM
 

I agree!!!

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awesome article DHOOD!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:03 PM
 

you keep writing articles like this and the AJC is gonna hire you for "name redacted's" replacement!

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Thank you David Hood! Excellent commentary.


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:06 PM
 

Keep up the good job!

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 7:41 PM
 

Bravo, Kudos and Major Dittos!!! Well said, and I hope people will wake up and act like grown men and let young men deal with all the things that really are important to them, like getting dates, making grades, living up to family expectations, yes getting their high school teams and buddies some attention, etc. The "name redacted" sleezeball is about the bottom wrung of the ladder. I guess that's why a rag like the ajc rag hired him.

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i did not read the AJC story. did the story show the


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 8:48 PM
 

question that was asked of RN that prompted that statement from him? just curious as to whether he could have been set up with a loaded question.

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nevermind. i read it now. all the "yes sir"s make it clear


Posted: Jul 10, 2012 8:56 PM
 

that RN was responding to questions. questions that were not only loaded, but cocked and loaded.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 10:55 PM
 

The irony, of course, is Doyel did just what you said you do for TigerNet...write the columns/stories that get the most hits.

He got more hits by writing this story than did all the guys who took the other side combined. Doyel did exactly what his readers (other than Clemson fans) wanted...validated their skepticism...and in the process gained many hits he otherwise would not have.

I'm not condoning his column, I think he's scum...but the point is, that as long as it's about "what story gets the most hits" then this type of "journalism" will flourish on the internet.


You cannot defend his blatant violation of journalistic


Posted: Jul 11, 2012 7:04 AM
 

ethics on any level. FAIL!

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Re: You cannot defend his blatant violation of journalistic


Posted: Jul 12, 2012 9:36 AM
 

If you are referring to my post, perhaps you missed, "I'm not condoning his column, I think he's scum."


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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 11:25 PM
 

You are spot on. I couldn't agree more. Wish some of the mouth-foamers would let it go. Obviously, the coaches have to recruit for the benefit of the team. Regarding the "journalist:" in question, he's in the "red-light" sector of that profession.


In a profession populated by self-important POS, Gregg

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 11:43 PM
 

Doyel is a troll among midgets.

Seriously, #### that guy.

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This is the best article I've ever read on TigerNet.

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Posted: Jul 10, 2012 11:53 PM
 

Journalism with a pair.

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His Name Is Publicly Known


Posted: Jul 11, 2012 4:49 PM
 

so why the silliness of "Name Redacted?"

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Because that's what GD did in his article.***


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