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Re: Latest polls show pandemic management hurts Trump, GOP
Sep 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
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His campaign has to be just exasperated that he continues to say dumb stuff about covid and call press conferences to contradict his CDC director. He needs to find something else to talk about... problem is they can’t really run on their record with the economy as it is, no healthcare plan, no real agenda, and attacks at Joe Biden have been derpy “he’s a puppet” and “he has Alzheimer’s” lines that just aren’t landing.
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Hall of Famer [22390]
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and the Trump campaign has pulled all of their Law and Order
Sep 18, 2020, 10:56 AM
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ads because they aren't working and are just wasted money that the Trump campaign is low on.
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Trump and his minions don't want to talk about the failed
Sep 18, 2020, 10:54 AM
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Covid response, as you can see from the posts on this board, but most of the country, including older Republicans who are abandoning Trump, are focused on it.
As we cross the 200,000 dead threshold and head for a quarter of a million dead by election day, that focus will grow.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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you're right...
Sep 18, 2020, 11:40 AM
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most people just want to spout talking points. On two or three occasions I have taken the time to lay out a timeline, videos, and quotes of what actually happened and it's always crickets from your side. Not doing it again...but more power to you and your talking points. It is a winning ploy with a complicit media.
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Orange Blooded [2693]
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Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 11:56 AM
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we don't give it the attention it deserves. It is clearly a better issue to leverage than your stock market portfolio, which less than half of the voters actually care about.
How likely are people to die because of Biden or because of Trump?
From nuking hurricanes to injecting bleach into your body to pretending china virus was a non-issue, isn't the answer pretty clear?
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 12:13 PM
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 12:32 PM
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Let me preface this by saying that I’m not getting in a multi-reply pissing match with you today, but dude Jesus Christ...
The stock market matters to you and I, but the market =/= the economy for a huge number of people. Many people’s economic security is a paycheck to paycheck subsistence, not worrying about which funds they should shift their IRAs into. That doesn’t make them “leeches” because they aren’t as fortunate as you or I. This is such a godd@amned selfish and elitist worldview to look down your nose at poorer people because they have concerns lower down Maslow’s hierarchy than you do.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 12:42 PM
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 12:55 PM
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Yeah, so you keep repeating that like I’m supposed to be embarrassed about knowing how literally all doctors and everyone in healthcare gets paid, but really all it does is highlight your lack of understanding. Want to hear how many RVU’s I’m generating from my cases today?
You can walk back your position about how you feel about “the leeches,” but you made your opinion quite clear. Very Christ-like, btw.
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 1:05 PM
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 5:19 PM
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So CharlestonTiger15, how are those workers that live paycheck to paycheck going to feel when all the gains they received the last 3 years from Trump are taken away by Biden taxes.
I'm sure you'll enjoy seeing your income disentegrate due to higher taxes and forget about your retirement. You can work until you're euthanized because you can no longer give to the party. Oh what a sweet future you dream about.
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Do those paycheck to paycheck workers make 6-figures?
Sep 18, 2020, 6:46 PM
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Show me where Biden's tax changes impact the lower income folks?
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Re: Existential fear is what will drive this election
Sep 18, 2020, 1:19 PM
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almost half the voters are a bunch of leeches that don’t pay federal taxes (or much else)
First of all, it doesn't make sense to count voters as if every one of them should be generating federal income tax. My daughter is a voter but she's not a leech or part of the problem just because she doesn't pay a lot of federal taxes. When she gets out of law school I assure you she'll pitch in.
So there are certain segments of the population--young people, retired people, disabled, etc.--who pay no federal income taxes but aren't the variety of scum-sucking leeches that you might be imagining.
I did a quick search, so maybe there are better and more recent numbers available, but the Tax Policy Center puts the total number of non-income-tax-payers at 44% as of 2018, yet that percentage drops to 16% when you factor in payroll taxes. That means that a lot of the "leeches" are actually working, but are paid so little that they don't even hit a non-zero tax bracket.
So now, remove the children, elderly, disabled, etc. from that 16%, and you're talking a pretty small leech population.
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/tcja-increasing-share-households-paying-no-federal-income-tax
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Rock Defender [53]
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Are you seriously arguing that a 7.625%
Sep 18, 2020, 1:26 PM
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Re: Are you seriously arguing that a 7.625%
Sep 18, 2020, 1:42 PM
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If you like, I will get on the Phone with accounting and specifically request that they no longer make these deductions from my monthly direct deposit. We have no state payroll taxes in Flrida, we tax out of state drivers heading north with traffic fines and toll booths.
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there is another way of looking at it
Sep 18, 2020, 4:32 PM
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There are the people who actually do the work to make the things, then there are the people who actually do no work and make no things but make profits from holding various forms of paper. Which group do you think are the real leeches that the tax code seems to favor the most if you were to base taxes as a percentage of income?
Of the Repub voters polled, 61% own stock. Of Democrats, 56%. Independents, 51%.
It is strange that there are so many "leeches" in all the various political parties. By the way,it is easy to distort the numbers to make it look more sensational. This story is a perfect example.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/81-million-americans-wont-pay-any-federal-income-taxes-this-year-heres-why-2018-04-16
“About 60% of those who pay no income tax will work and owe payroll taxes,” according to Roberton Williams, an associate at the Tax Policy Center. “Most of the other 40% are retirees whose income is too low to owe income tax ...Refundable credits make it possible for some low-income households with workers to avoid paying income and payroll taxes. Even so, nearly three-quarters of Americans will end up paying at least one of those taxes this year.”
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Rock Defender [53]
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OK COMRADE
Sep 18, 2020, 7:00 PM
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What is 0+4, 1+3, and 2+2?
Sep 18, 2020, 1:43 PM
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I think they all add up to 4. As in years. As in 4 more.
4 more years. As we say on here, MARK IT DOWN.
Sweden is pretty easy to migrate to from what I hear. Lots of exotic beers and good drugs too.
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8 more years
Sep 18, 2020, 5:32 PM
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trump will make an executive order than he can run for a third term
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Trump definitely shut us down
Sep 18, 2020, 1:46 PM
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More than he should have.
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Oculus Spirit [93672]
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The pandemic is over.
Sep 18, 2020, 7:07 PM
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Numbers do not reflect a pandemic situation now. By Nov the only thing on people's minds will be the economy.
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