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Topic: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B
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The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:00 AM
 

Is a good sign in my opinion (I’m a glass half full person). I bet the NCAA knows that they have a big problem on their hands and they need to figure out an equitable resolution. Hopefully the Clemson lawyers are giving them some encouragement to do the right thing. Time will tell.

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Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:32 AM
 

I'm with you. I just worry it may take longer and the results of a clean test will come too late for this game.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:34 AM
 

I bet Dex could fill more than half a glass

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:35 AM
 

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I'm a glass half-full person when it comes to


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:36 AM
 

a lawsuit against the NCAA.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:56 PM
 

hope when he collects pro money, hope he sues ncaa a ton of wealth.


Didn't Dabo say in the original press conference last week


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:38 AM
 

that they would get B sample results Wednesday or Thursday of this week? It's still just Thursday morning. It's Christmas week, nobody has been working.


Re: Didn't Dabo say in the original press conference last week


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 11:19 AM
 

Yup, and it is only 8:15 AM on Thursday in California where the second sample is being tested.

Doesn't quite seem like there is a delay...

Now, in about 12 hours, that is a different story.


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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:46 AM
 

I just wish they sounded more optimistic. I know they are just trying to be pre-pared either way.
But listening to them... Doesn't sound good.
Person that will REALLY struggle, Galloway. Would had been a starter in 019, IMO.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:31 PM
 



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Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 10:56 AM
 

"Oh shit, the B Sample came back negative, we already screwed the pooch and contaminated the wrong Lawrence, how are we gunna fix this to keep Clemson out of it now??
- NCAA, acting as an agent for the SEC/Saban, Notre Dame, or John Swofford, probably."

- TigerNet, probably.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 1:16 PM
 

I know quite a few who are great people and very good attorneys!

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Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 11:30 AM
 

Got to remember they are 3 hours behind where the labs are, I wouldn't expect to hear anything til later this afternoon or evening. I just can't get over how odd this whole situation is with that small amount, I bet if he retook a test today he'd pass with flying colors.


There are several key factors that influence the amount of


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 11:35 AM
 

the substance present in the sample.

1) The amount original ingested
2) The rate at which it leaves the body
3) The amount of time that has passed since ingestion

Even a massive dose would eventually result in a trace amount being present in the sample so the small quantity may not mean anything.


Re: There are several key factors that influence the amount of


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 1:02 PM
 

That's true, but also wouldn't make any sense to take a muscle building supplement like this one in such a sporadic or one-off type way. So if he'd indeed been taking it on purpose, with or without knowing about that illicit ingredient, you'd think that he'd be doing it as a regular routine as most people do with supplements.

For that reason, it shouldn't just show up as a tiny trace amount since at best you get 24 hours notice of an impending test. And if you know much anytying about drugs...I'm not a doc but I know a LOT about them :P Anyways, you would know that a half-life of 24 hours is EXTREMELY long. After 3 days from dosing, you'd still have at least 12.5% of the total dose in your system. And that would show up like a freaking Christmas tree, not a trace.

I've seen a person taking a drug with a similar half-life still trigger a positive detection on a test for the substance over 3 weeks later. But again, it makes no sense to take muscle supplements in such an occasional, sporadic way. So this whole situation, if it is in fact trace levels, really makes no logical sense given the variables.


Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:16 PM
 

I wish I was a half full guy. But I’m afraid there’s no chance this turns our way. The worst part is the huge distraction before a gigantic game. Really want us to make up for that playoff game last year.

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Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:28 PM
 

Luckily Dex, Dabo, the team and whole staff are handling about as well and classy as anyone can. Turning out not to be the distraction that it could have been.

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Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:37 PM
 

A suspended player got interviewed by the media today and you think its not a distraction? The NCAA is not going to let a cloud of suspicion be a talking point for the playoffs. I hope we win it all, but I dont think Dex plays again for Clemson.

How many times will it be mentioned if he does play? Does the NCAA want that? They are corrupt no doubt, but they arent stupid.


Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:42 PM
 

This could be a lab mistake. When a sample is tested they are on a big turntable where a probe takes a sample from a vial, then it is supposed to be dipped into a clean sample before going to the next so it won't contaminate the next sample with what may have been in the last one. If this is not done one sample could make many samples set positive falsely. Just wondered if the Clemson lawyers asked the lab how many others samples that were tested in that lab that day were positive for that drug. Also ask if the sample was QA checked to verify peaks could not have been something else.


Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 1:11 PM
 

Just stop. The College Football Playoffs is a billion dollar business and ya'll are acting like a $10/an hour intern did the testing. The excuses and theories are utterly ridiculous. Do I believe there was any intention by Dex? Ofcourse not. The guy is a saint in my eyes. Hes truly a gift to the people who know him. But the excuses and deflection need to stop. I realize our beloved Dabo did the exact opposite of what Im asking and that has led to thousands of fans believing there is some conspiracy against us. There isnt. We are a cash cow for the NCAA and the university, but we need to move on and stop sounding like whiny babies trying to avoid a spanking.


Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 1:15 PM
 

Oh the irony...likely it was someone making around $10/hour that did the testing. Who did you think performs them? Dr. House?

Seriously though, acting as if the NCAA is some smoothly running machine would be akin to suggesting the government and all of its bureaucracy works well and produces good results efficiently.


Re: The fact that we haven’t heard the results of sample B


Posted: Dec 27, 2018 1:24 PM
 

But you think the NCAA will admit it made a mistake? Amerite????


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