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Why does everyone have to make a "statement"?
Jun 3, 2020, 10:18 AM
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Every sports team and school and league, all kinds of companies, even my company issued a "message" from the CEO.
Why? What is the point?
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Seems like the only entity who needs to make a
Jun 3, 2020, 10:19 AM
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statement is the Minneapolis police.
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Re: Why does everyone have to make a "statement"?
Jun 3, 2020, 10:21 AM
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I’m not sure you will ever get it, if you ask such a question.
This is about so much more than what happened in Minn
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All-In [26968]
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What in post history suggests I am not willing
Jun 3, 2020, 10:23 AM
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to listen and consider opinions?
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It appears you just made a statement.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:24 AM
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and judging from your post history, this isn't the first time.
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It's just savvy PR. If you remain silent, you are open to
Jun 3, 2020, 10:24 AM
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the media filling in the blanks and questioning you, a la Dabo this week. So large organizations want to proactively make a statement to avoid that.
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Why would anyone care what Dabo
Jun 3, 2020, 10:25 AM
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thinks about this, or the CEO of Wal-Mart, or the owner of the Charlotte Hornets?
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If you had to guess why, what would you say?***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:28 AM
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I don't know.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:29 AM
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I don't care what they think about it. Does anyone who does care what they think want to say why they care?
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Did you see the Trevor Lawrence post on Twitter?
Jun 3, 2020, 10:32 AM
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Did you see the reaction from the black athletes?
What are these people/companies selling?
Who are their employees, customers and recruits?
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No, I didn't.***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:33 AM
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Hall of Famer [22388]
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Check it out.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:35 AM
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If you really are trying to understand it, it shouldn't be so hard.
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OK, thanks. Maybe I will.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:36 AM
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Can you answer the OP?
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Hall of Famer [22388]
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I already did.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:37 AM
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Like I said, it's not that hard to understand if you really want to.
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Sorry, I missed it.
Jun 3, 2020, 10:39 AM
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Can you link to the answer, just so I'm sure what you're referring to?
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Check out the Trevor Lawrence tweet and responses
Jun 3, 2020, 10:40 AM
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from the black athletes and that should help inform your understanding, if that is in fact what you are trying to do here.
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OK. I was hoping to get your opinion (and others')
Jun 3, 2020, 10:42 AM
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But I'll leave it be.
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You already got it. Now, go check out that Trevor Lawrence
Jun 3, 2020, 10:44 AM
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tweet and the responses and you will have a better understanding of what I posted and why these statements are being made.
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I'm not sure they do. But they get a lot of clicks by
Jun 3, 2020, 10:30 AM
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questioning these organizations and their priorities. And organizations that align with certain movements will slander the organization, potentially hurting sales or brand value. So...get ahead of it.
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Do you think the statements are mostly
Jun 3, 2020, 10:33 AM
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self-serving PR for the company/organization? I think that's what you're saying, I just want to make sure.
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Yes. And I don't mean for that to sound so cynical.
Jun 3, 2020, 11:00 AM
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It's very possible that the leader of the organization feels that way. It's possible that the leader is considering the positive impact of such statements. But the obligation to make such a comment is specifically the PR obligation of an organization's leadership to mitigate the opportunity for damage to the brand, fair or not.
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I'd like to hear more about these "positive impacts"
Jun 3, 2020, 11:02 AM
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. What are the potential positive impacts? So far, I haven't heard any.
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Oh, I don't know. Giving a level of comfort to minority
Jun 3, 2020, 11:06 AM
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employees in their company? Creating an atmosphere where people will not feel so "not heard" and lash out? I don't know.
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Interesting. Good answer.***
Jun 3, 2020, 11:07 AM
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Re: Why does everyone have to make a "statement"?
Jun 3, 2020, 10:24 AM
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Yeah I really dislike this weighing in on stuff not pertaining to you. And we get it without a statement- racism and discrimination are bad. Obviously!! Shut up and come up with something to help end it.
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The "statements" I have seen are just strings of
Jun 3, 2020, 10:27 AM
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words with a very obvious message that almost everyone on earth would agree with. I don't get the point.
Like, I haven't seen a statement from Subway saying they denounce people being killed. I supposed we should assume Subway likes people getting killed?
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You know what, you're right!
Jun 3, 2020, 10:34 AM
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Subway has a long history of marginalizing black youth.
Let's not forget what they did to CJ Spiller in 2010...
Boycott Subway!!!
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Oreo cereal for the hair? I'm dead***
Jun 3, 2020, 11:42 AM
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Black olives, fam.***
Jun 3, 2020, 12:22 PM
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Its the GOTCHA game***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:42 AM
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Can you explain your meaning?***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:43 AM
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oh, jesuis h christ. lol. i'm in a mtg, so no***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:45 AM
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OK. No hurry. I appreciate your input.***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:46 AM
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Because not acknowledging it is its own statement.***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:54 AM
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What statement is that?***
Jun 3, 2020, 10:59 AM
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That the school or business or organization won't deign to
Jun 3, 2020, 11:12 AM
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comment on or otherwise acknowledge an American crisis. If they were to just carry on like it's business as usual it comes across like they're turning a blind eye. It's the same as people who did a social media blackout. In some cases it's virtue signalling, but in most cases it's a well intentioned effort to recognize what's going on and not just continue posting pictures of dogs and tacos as if the country isn't on fire.
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Thanks***
Jun 3, 2020, 11:14 AM
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Most of the "statements" I'm seeing on Twitter
Jun 3, 2020, 10:58 AM
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are just followed by people replying how insufficient the "statement" was. There's actually a guy who has a spreadsheet "ranking" all the MLB teams' "statements". The Braves got a 3 out of 8. Awesome.
The whole thing seems very shallow. I guess they are just doing it because they think the people want it. I'd like to know why people want it, but no one so far has been able to provide such an answer.
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Lol. That's hilarious.***
Jun 3, 2020, 11:01 AM
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Here's a statement from Walmart:
Jun 3, 2020, 11:17 AM
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“We must remain vigilant in standing together against racism and discrimination. Doing so is not only at the heart of the values of our company, it’s at the core of the most basic principles of human rights, dignity and justice.”
Why is that so hard to understand?
Is understanding what you are really after?
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Maybe you misunderstood my question.
Jun 3, 2020, 11:20 AM
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If so, that's my fault, and I apologize. I can comprehend the text of the statements I'm reading. It's not an issue of me not understanding what the companies are saying.
My question is about what the purpose of the statements is. Like, I know Wal-Mart wants to stand against racism. We almost all do. But why does (seemingly) everyone feel the need to release a statement saying it?
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That was a statement to their employees. The obviously want
Jun 3, 2020, 11:30 AM
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them to know that they stand with them and support them and the protesters rights to peacefully protest in the name of racial equality and justice.
Two men outside of Savannah chased a black jogger down and murdered him in broad daylight on camera. About a week after that discovery, several white cops put their knees on a black man's neck and back and murdered him in broad daylight and on camera. These things are not the first time these things have happened, as you well know.
“In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.” — Dr Martin Luther King Jr
“To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” — Ella Wheeler Wilcox
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” — Archbishop Desmond Tutu
“A man dies when he refuses to stand up for that which is right. A man dies when he refuses to stand up for justice. A man dies when he refuses to take a stand for that which is true.” — Dr Martin Luther King Jr
It is obvious and self explanatory.
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Thanks***
Jun 3, 2020, 11:38 AM
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In a way, I guess I can use a personal example.
Jun 3, 2020, 11:23 AM
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Earlier in the week, I made a post that said something about President Trump (I can't even remember what it was about). Someone replied to me criticizing me for not having something negative to say about all the violence happening. I just thought it would be assumed that I was against violence, and didn't think about making a post saying such.
Like, I am glad to assume the Atlanta Braves and Wal-Mart are against racism and violence. I'd like to think most people would assume that.
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Multiple people have talked about the statements
Jun 3, 2020, 11:39 AM
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benefiting their employees. I had not even considered this. So, I am learning. Keep 'em coming.
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Hall of Famer [22388]
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Why should they remain silent?
Jun 3, 2020, 11:42 AM
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Perhaps that is the better question.
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