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acc realignment solution


Mar 1, 2013, 1:49 PM

the big12-4+2 recently petitioned the ncaa to allow conferences with less than 12 teams to have conference title games. there was also some discussion on eliminating the requirement to have divisions in order to have a conference title game (i.e. top 2 teams could play for title). this would work out great for the acc in terms of scheduling IF nd were to join in football.

big advantage: this would eliminate the dilemma of having to invite an ugly, buck-toothed step sister like uconn, cincy or (gag!) wvu as the 16th team since you don't need an even number for divisions.

if the ncaa agreed to eliminate could do away with divisions and form 3 "scheduling pods" with 5 teams each. you play the 4 teams in your pod and a permanent rival in the other 2 pods every year. the remaining 2 conference games are rotated among the remaining 8 teams, which means you would play those teams every 4 years. nd's pod would likely include bc, pitt, miami and syracuse. the other 2 pods and permanent rivals would be set up to have the marquee matchups every year.

this is probably my ideal scenario for realignment endgame.

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Re: acc realignment solution


Mar 1, 2013, 1:55 PM

The following would create 4 NCAA “super conferences” and preserve the ACC and Big XII from poaching from the B1G and SEC. The following would create on average 20 games per year between ACC schools and Big XII schools (Excluding WVU).

The Big XII commissioner is attempting to get a waiver from the NCAA to have a Big XII conference championship game with only 10 members. Instead of getting that wavier, he could get a waiver for the “flex game” described below:

This would be a six year deal for football only with the option to continue.

Division A (South Atlantic): Miami, FSU, GT, CU, NCST, Wake
Division B (South West): TX, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, OK State
Division C (North): UVA, VT, WVU, Pitt, BC, Syracuse
Division D (Central): UNC, Duke, L-Ville, Iowa St, Kansas, K-State

8 Conference Games made up of 5 Division Games, 1 Cross Division Game vs permanent rival, 1 Cross Division game vs 1 of 3 rotating rivals, and 1 “flex game”.

The “flex game” is played 2 Saturdays after Thanksgiving. The host divisions for the “flex games” are predetermined on a rotating basis.

In the “flex game” the first place team in Division A plays the first place team in Division B. Second vs. Second, so on and so forth. Last vs Last. The same set-up will be used in the other 2 divisions.

The winners of the two “first place flex games” will meet the following week in the Championship Game. The winner of the Championship game will have a guaranteed spot in the NCAA play-off.

All TV money generated from games played in ACC stadiums will go to the ACC. All TV money generated from games played in Big 12 stadiums will go to the Big 12.

Permanent Rivals (set-up to maximize TV money and in some cases regional rivalries):
CU – VA Tech
FSU - Texas
Miami - Oklahoma
UNC - NCST
Wake – Duke
K-State - OK State
Pitt – L-Ville
UVA - GT
Iowa St - TCU
BC - Baylor
WVU - TX Tech
Kansas – Syracuse


Three Bi-Annual Rotating Rivals :
CU –UNC, UVA, WVU
VA Tech –GT, FSU, NCST
FSU –VT, Oklahoma, WVU
Texas –GT, K-State, Miami
Miami –BC, Pitt, Texas
Oklahoma –K-State, Kansas, FSU
UNC –UVA, CU, GT
NCST –UVA, VA Tech, Duke
Wake –Syracuse, BC, TCU
Duke –NCST, Syracuse, TX Tech
K-State - Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas
OK State –Kansas, Iowa St, L-Ville
Pitt –Miami, TCU, TX Tech
L-Ville –OK State, Syracuse, WVU
UVA –UNC, CU, NCST
GT –UNC, VA Tech, TX
Iowa St –OK State, TX Tech, Baylor
TCU –BC, Wake, Pitt
BC –Miami, Wake, TCU
Baylor –K-State, Kansas, Iowa St
WVU –FSU, CU, L-Ville
TX Tech –Iowa St, Duke, Pitt
Kansas –OK State, Oklahoma, Baylor
Syracuse –Wake , Duke, L-Ville

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you have way too much time on your hands***


Mar 1, 2013, 1:56 PM



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What problem are we trying to solve?


Mar 1, 2013, 1:56 PM

Other than an attractive TV matchup, I don't see what's wrong with the "win your division go to the championship game" model.

Personally, I'd much rather go back to the days before super-conferences when you played everybody in your conference every year, but that train has left the station.

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who the heck knows.............................***


Mar 1, 2013, 2:01 PM



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Re: What problem are we trying to solve?


Mar 1, 2013, 2:05 PM [ in reply to What problem are we trying to solve? ]

the problem it solves is that the ncaa requires you to play everyone in your division, which means that some traditional/interesting matchups go away as the divisions get bigger. for example, clemson and vt should play every year, but we don't because gt is our crossover rival.

the other problem it solves (mentioned above) is that you don't have to invite a less than desirable team for #16.

just some random friday thoughts.

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