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We beat Louisville with Stoudt

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:08 AM
 

And Louisville is a heck of alot better than SCar.

We wipe the floor on SCar. They suck.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:09 AM
 



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We haven't lost at home to an unranked opponent since

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:09 AM
 

2008, I don't expect that to change. We defend our turf pretty well now-a-days.

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Re: We haven't lost at home to an unranked opponent since


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:45 PM
 

oh god, they can break our unranked, unbeaten streak. they do have something to play for, other than Shreveport.

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I doubt we wipe the floor with anyone

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:09 AM
 

If stoudt plays, but I do agree Louisville is better than that team from the midlands. We win by 4


and that was without him practicing all week

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:12 AM
 

Nm


Would not have done so without the crowd noise

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:13 AM
 

Be loud a tiger Fans


Re: Would not have done so without the crowd noise

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:34 AM
 

I still think DW starts.

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You keep saying that, do you have information others don't?***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:41 PM
 



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Re: You keep saying that, do you have information others don't?***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:42 PM
 

Maybe ;:

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Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:26 AM
 

Then we need special teams and a defensive touchdown to beat them. Just like LU.

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good point***

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:30 AM
 




No way. SCar's defense sucks.***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:33 AM
 



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Re: No way. SCar's defense sucks.***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:21 PM
 

I've heard that the past 2 years. I want to see a Morris led offense score more than 17 on it before I trash it.


Re: No way. SCar's defense sucks.***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:23 PM
 

Your point is valid but I was always afraid of SCar's defense the last 4 years.

This year....I don't even know a single player on their defense.

Absolutely garbage defense but I can understand your caution.

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Garbage might be a little strong. Certainly not as good as


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:03 PM
 

Past years, but they are not garbage

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Tennessee put up over 600 yds on them.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:13 PM
 

and Mizzou just shut them down.

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Our offense never saw the end zone against Louisville.***


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:03 PM
 



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We still won

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:04 PM
 

Louisville's defense is much better than SCar's

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I just think it's misleading to suggest that because we beat


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:13 PM
 

Louisville with Stoudt, and Louisville is better than SCAR, that therefore we can beat SCAR with Stoudt. We actually beat Louisville (in part at least) in spite of Stoudt, and we won't likely win another game in that fashion with a punt return and a fumble recovery. I agree that SCAR's defense sucks, but our offense sucks really bad too with Stoudt.

Just my opinion, but with Stoudt, I think us winning is a long shot. I wouldn't be surprised to see them put a whooping on us. With a fully healthy Watson, we have a pretty good shot.

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Misleading?


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:19 PM
 

It will be more difficult. Our defense will have to play lights out.

But,

I think GTs offense is much better than SCar's and our defense held their own.

If we keep SCar under 20 points we win.

Don't forget that we have faced very good defenses this year. Wake Forest defense is much better than SCar's.

To say we have no shot with Stoudt is wrong. Play calling by Morris will have to be close to perfect but I'd say it's 55-45 percent we win with Stoudt. With DW I'd edge it to 80% chance we win.

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Our offense is definitely better than Louisville and GT's


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:59 PM
 

Louisville would have won easily with our offense.

Your weakness on defense is your secondary. We have a pretty strong passing game and will look to take advantage of it.

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Re: Our offense is definitely better than Louisville and GT's

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:18 PM
 

Louisville's defense is much better than yours so I'm not sure what your point was.

We really don't have a weakness on defense. Our secondary is solid. Maybe not the best unit on our defense but our corners are really good and safeties are really good.

Our defense and Florida is comparable. Some argue our defense is better.

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I'm sure clemson fans argue it


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:22 PM
 

But no one outside of them actually believes it.

How did you guys compare versus your common opponent?

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Re: I'm sure clemson fans argue it

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:25 PM
 

Clemson defense has had one bad quarter for the entire season.

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Re: I'm sure clemson fans argue it

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:26 PM
 

Hence why they are the #1 Defense in the country

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It conveniently happened against the only good offense


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:27 PM
 

You've played this season.

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GTech is in the top 20 offense.

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:28 PM
 

Their offense scares me more than SCar's.

Pressure on Thompson and the offense folds.

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You have also thought you were going to win the last few years


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:37 PM
 

So maybe you're just getting your hopes up again?

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Maybe you're trying convince yourself

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:42 PM
 

that you guys don't actually suck and have 6 losses on the season to some mediocre teams.

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I don't understand the hyperbole


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:50 PM
 

How are you going to feel if you lose to a team that you are certain 'sucks' ?

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Re: I don't understand the hyperbole

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:52 PM
 

Pretty bad.

But you guys do suck.

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But if we win it will be undeniable that we were the better team


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 2:04 PM
 

so I guess that would mean clemson sucks more?


I don't understand your logic but whatever.

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Re: But if we win it will be undeniable that we were the better team

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 2:19 PM
 

Yes. You still suck

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Re: Our offense is definitely better than Louisville and GT's


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:20 PM
 

Also the team's you've had problems with all year are ones with good pass rushers like Mizzou and Florida.

I expect alot of pressure on Dylan Thompson.

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I sure hope you are right. I know SCAR's defense is not


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:00 PM
 

good. I get that. I just believe that our offense may be worse. Here's to hoping you are right and I am wrong, and that Watson is 100% healthy and the OL protects him and opens some holes for Dye and Gallman.

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Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt

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Posted: Nov 23, 2014 11:59 AM
 

All depends on the game Chad calls. I have become increasingly unimpressed with his play calling and offense as the years have passed.

He really needs to limit the screen passes. And incorporate more crossing, quick slants and in routes into his offense. His offense is read option which is slow developing, WR screen pass, chuck it deep on a fly route, QB power or silly trick play that never works. The goal is to keep it simple to move fast and honestly Fedora runs circles around Morris on the pace of the offense. Cole seems to work better when the pace is faster. I do not think it allows him to think as much.

Hopefully Morris will continue to evolve his offense. Remember Spence was able to blowout out the sisters of the poor as well. Morris needs to earn his money against teams in the top 25 and SC. Stoudt has issues but Morris has handcuffed him as well by not developing a plan and adapting the offense to Cole. Hoping the Chad calls a good game this Sat.

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Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:55 PM
 

And you are? Oh yeah on a message board. I say we stick with Morris.


Not same Cole playing


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:18 PM
 

nm


Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 12:26 PM
 

OK, no sense playing the game...just like the last 5 years...we can all go home now, get ready for Christmas!


Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 1:42 PM
 

I thought or defense beat Louisville...

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Re: We beat Louisville with Stoudt


Posted: Nov 23, 2014 2:02 PM
 

Didn't Louisville play without Dyer or Parker in the clemson game? That is pretty huge to not have your best two offensive players.

Also, I don't know the exact situation, but I know that Gardner only played about a half in that game. Was he injured?

Yes, I know DeShaun Watson also did not play, but remember this post is BASED ON the assumption that DeShaun doesn't play against SC. So that wouldn't change things.

I think Dyer and Parker both being out had a big impact on that game.

We will see what happens in six days.

I think Watson will play.


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