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Re: A Bleacher Report writers view of SCar for Tiger fans
Nov 11, 2013, 1:03 PM
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I hope so but the last couple years our efforts w them dont make me real confident. I do believe we are better though. we just have to show it
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Agreed, our success against USuC will be determined by...
Nov 11, 2013, 1:16 PM
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our O-Line play and Tajh Boyd. I thought that we were the better team prior to last years game. However, Boyd played poorly and our D could not get stops on 3rd and long. This year I think it comes down to the OL and Boyd. If we struggle at those positions we will lose a close game like last year. I will always pull for the tigers but I won't feel confident until I see how the game starts. I am a little concerned about GT Thursday. They are not a great team but they have a difficult Offense and their D-Line is better.
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I'm banking on Boyd and Watkins being as psyched up for this
Nov 11, 2013, 1:17 PM
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one as any game they've played in their careers. And there are a lot of guys like Bryant, Williams, Hopper, etc., that really have incentive to start to lock down their roles for bowl and next season. No better game this season to show Dabo and Morris they are ready to start next season than SCar.
And if UCF can get over 350+ yards in the air our squad should be able to wear out their secondary, too, whenever we need to. SCar has done better against other teams in the air, I think (don't have stats handy). I do remember seeing numbers that said we defended the rush (yds per) better. But that may have been a few games back. So we will have to really focus our backs on keeping Shaw scoping for targets. If that's possible (we need improvement there).
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UCF and Mizzou are both ranked
Nov 11, 2013, 1:11 PM
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..and were beaten on the road. Two quality wins. Tennessee was a BAD loss no question but just about every team has a bad loss every now and then.
But if we're playing the "then ranked" card Clemson has exactly ONE win over a top 25 team. #25 UGA. So his "analysis" is a little weak IMO.
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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What's that say about your loss to UGA then
Nov 11, 2013, 1:14 PM
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lol
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I think Clemson beat a different UGA team...
Nov 11, 2013, 1:16 PM
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...and we lost to that same UGA team at home... a legit top 10 team both games. Today they are so injury riddled it's not even the same team.
I give props to Clemson for beating them and I don't think it's a bad loss for us.
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So wait its we should count it as a #25 win for clemson,
Nov 11, 2013, 1:22 PM
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but not a #25 loss for Scar?
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Not at all.
Nov 11, 2013, 1:25 PM
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The "article" points to a loss at UT but says nothing of who Clemson's double digit wins came against.
Like I said, I give Clemson credit for a quality win and I think we loss to a legit top 10 team that day.
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The UGa team you lost to
Nov 11, 2013, 1:42 PM
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had already lost its best receiver and used a severely hobbled Gurley.
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Re: The UGa team you lost to
Nov 11, 2013, 1:57 PM
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To be fair, that WR was gone for our game too. Out after the second drive. Gurley was also a bit banged up too.
I understand you guys want to give crap to South Carolina fans, but this guy is making legit points and giving Clemson credit for the UGA win, while noting they lost to that same team.
To try to pick apart his argument is grasping at straws.
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I didnt even read his article
Nov 11, 2013, 2:03 PM
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I am just calling it how I see it. Gurley got banged up DURING our game. He was never healthy against USuC
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Re: I didnt even read his article
Nov 11, 2013, 2:08 PM
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LOL you're trying to have a conversation about an article you didn't even read. Kind of difficult to see the points I was trying to make without that key piece of information.
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Do I have to read it to get the gist of what the
Nov 11, 2013, 2:11 PM
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argument is about? I don't think so...I not a freaking idiot.
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Re: Do I have to read it to get the gist of what the
Nov 11, 2013, 2:13 PM
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"I don't think so...I not a freaking idiot"
maybe you're not but you're really doing a great impression of one.
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Says the coot on a tiger board
Nov 11, 2013, 2:18 PM
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why don't you find your way back over to FGF? You and all your delusional buddies can celebrate another year of unfulfilled dreams.
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Other than you
Nov 11, 2013, 2:26 PM
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It's been a pretty civilized discussion. And I don't post on fgf
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Re: The UGa team you lost to
Nov 11, 2013, 2:54 PM
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Clemson fans conveniently forget that Gurley missed a good half of the Clemson game. Plus, UGA's starting safety was suspended and replaced by the 3rd string slow white kid who the Tigers picked on all nite.
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Speaking of a weak analysis....
Nov 11, 2013, 1:17 PM
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didn't $CU actually LOSE to that now 25th ranked UGa team?
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lets see here. an sec, uh, powerhouse (as they call them-
Nov 11, 2013, 1:18 PM
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selves) still clinging to the ucf as a signature win. what does your sec cohorts say about this ? my guess would be that ya'll are,once again, without even trying hard, the laughingstock of the sec !
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Comparing #5 UGA to now #25 UGA is almost like comparing
Nov 11, 2013, 1:36 PM
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Clemson now to Clemson in 81. Almost.
We beat a team that stayed pretty highly ranked for a while. And we beat them at their peak.
SCar's wins have been more like VT's wins (expect the Miami beat down). Somehow they don't play well but win by a few points. I'm not saying this kid (he's in college) put a ton of thought into analyzing all aspects, but he makes a good point about game margins. Sure, there's more to it than that.
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BOTH teams have played a similar schedule......
Nov 11, 2013, 1:36 PM
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they have THREE "elite" teams on their schedule and BOTH teams are 1 & 1
Clemson beat a pre-injury depleted legit top 5/10 team
Carolina lost to a pre-injury depleted legit top 5/10 team
Clemson was demolished by likely BCS championship team
Carolina beat a very good top 5/10 Missouri team
Each team has to play each other so that's the 3rd elite team..........bottomline is NEITHER team had a "gauntlet" of a schedule. In regards to CONFERENCE play it set up PERFECTLY for BOTH teams........Clemson's bad loss to FSU messed up their shot............Carolina's bad loss to UT MAY have messed their shot up, but that's still on the table.
everybody will find who's truly the better team November 30th........in the meantime this "who played a tougher schedule" is pointless and splitting hairs anyways.
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a Mizzou team..
Nov 11, 2013, 1:45 PM
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that was missing their starting QB.
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true, but still a good team and the way it happened proved..
Nov 11, 2013, 1:49 PM
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that conner shaw is essential for South Carolina to be a top 10 team
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I guess the point I am making
Nov 11, 2013, 2:04 PM
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is Shaw came in the game to beat Mizzou. Were Mizzou afforded a chance to get James Franklin in does USuC still win?
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a healthy shaw vs healthy franklin i think it's a tossup....
Nov 11, 2013, 2:08 PM
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but my point is even w/ a 2nd string QB mizzou is still a pretty good team..............problem is i don't think they're good enough to win out in the SEC and I don't think UGA is healty enough to win @ auburn........so that gives SCar the east
either way the bottom line is BOTH teams are 1&1 vs real good teams this year.......their 3rd test will be November 30
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but, how do you compare our loss against fsu, with their
Nov 11, 2013, 2:22 PM
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to tennessee. that blew your argument out, right there. we have 0 losses outside of the #2 team in the bcs, especially not to a sub .500 squad (4-6). we beat a top-5 uga team, they lost to the same team. there is no way to compare our win vs. a healthy uga, and their win vs. mizzou, no matter how hard you try.
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Re: but, how do you compare our loss against fsu, with their
Nov 11, 2013, 2:33 PM
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The same analysis was made against Auburn a couple of years ago and we see how that turned out. We will see NOV.30th.
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Yes but luck has it that USuC doesn't get to play FSU...
Nov 11, 2013, 2:36 PM
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Unless we can count UF as USuC since, you know...they're SEC.
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Hey that was a defensive BATTLE. People were getting air
Nov 11, 2013, 2:38 PM
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lifted off the field in that one. Bower's took heads home for souvenirs...
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i'm not comparing the two wins........
Nov 11, 2013, 2:34 PM
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I'm saying that BOTH teams play 3 teams that are "legit teams".........and to this date BOTH teams are 1&1 vs those teams on their respective schedules.
there are so many variables with each game it's real tough to compare one to another.
-we beat a very good UGA team in the most electric atmosphere that i had ever seen in death valley
-they lost to a very good UGA team (slightly hampered by injury, but still legit) on the road that was respectively close until UGA stuck a nail in it in the 4th
-they lost to a BAD UT team.......are they a worse team than UT????........not imo
-we lost BADLY to a very good FSU team AT HOME in what was very briefly the most electric atmosphere i'd seen in death valley...........are we "THAT much worse" than FSU?? not imo
-they came from 17 down in a hostile environment w/ like 8-10 minutes left in the game.
you have to give credit to EACH team for the good wins and give criticism to EACH team for the bad losses.
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Surprising that pheebo did not remember that
Nov 11, 2013, 1:53 PM
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curious
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oh i remember.....
Nov 11, 2013, 1:58 PM
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after franklin went out vs UGA i think......i remember thinking there goes south carolina's chances of losing to them.
but even w/ a 2nd string QB mizzou is still a pretty good team. I think their talent at WR compensates for any shortcomings at QB
the entire point of my post was that both teams ONLY play 3 "good" teams.........both are 1&1.......comparing other parts of the schedule is just splitting hairs and it won't even matter come November 30th
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two words
Nov 11, 2013, 2:06 PM
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Dylan Thompson
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We've seen that both Clemson and $CU are....
Nov 11, 2013, 1:12 PM
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fully capable of playing really well or like total s***.
As is ususally the case, the outcome of this years game will boil down to who minimizes mistakes and plays better on 11/30.
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Clemson simply needs to focus on playing TOUGH, SMART
Nov 11, 2013, 1:17 PM
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football. That's all I want to see. The results will take care of themselves.
Predicting college football results is silly. These are 19 and 20 years old kids. Anything can happen.
Be tough.
Be ready.
GO TIGERS!!!!
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Re: A Bleacher Report writers view of SCar for Tiger fans
Nov 11, 2013, 1:37 PM
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I thought Clemson would win last years game with Tajh and Watkins playing lights out. We had a backup QB, backup RB, Clowney missing the previous game with a foot injury, National TV, and payback on Clemson's mind. It didn't turn out that way and I feel this year we are in better shape to win than last year with it being a home game for us. Rivalry games don't always turn out the way they are suppose to but I like our chances in this one.The games against FSU, UGA, Tennessee, Mizzu, NC State, or any other game is going to effect this one. Line it up and play....that's all there is to it.
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Doesn't matter who you play but who you are
Nov 11, 2013, 1:47 PM
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Both team are bad match ups for each other. Will be interesting to see who can take the most advantage.
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Just curious
Nov 11, 2013, 1:48 PM
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Where do you see the advantages/disadvantages that each team has based on match-ups?
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As follows
Nov 11, 2013, 1:53 PM
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Our WR>their secondary
Their pass rush>our O-line
Our rush defense>mike Davis
Connor shaw=our poison
Not a game to bet on. One team could dominate the other or it could be a field goal game. If any one of the above areas starts to take over the game it could get ugly.
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This game is truly a "anything could happen" game
Nov 11, 2013, 1:58 PM
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We've shown we could get blown out, we've shown we could win big.
I simply have no idea how it's going to go.
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I would agree with most
Nov 11, 2013, 2:10 PM
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but I am not so sure about our rush defense vs Mike Davis being a bad match up for us or them.
Don't get me wrong, Mike Davis is an incredible player but I don't see our run defense being a weak spot for our team. I also don't see him having a particular style that hurts us.
On the other hand, I don't see us being able to shut him down because we are so dominant in run defense.
I see that match up as being strength on strength. They have just as much chance to win that battle as we do. It could go either way.
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Re: I would agree with most
Nov 11, 2013, 2:37 PM
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I see home field advantage with South Carolina holding the Nations Longest home wining streak at 15 more of an advantage than Clemson at home last year!
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Yeah, Clemson had how long of a winning streak against FSU
Nov 11, 2013, 2:41 PM
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at home before that debacle? Different time, different players, could be different outcome...but hey, that's why we watch the games.
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