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Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:13 PM
 

No call, of course.

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Re: Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle

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Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:14 PM
 

When Verne is surprised they didn't at least review it you know it's terrible

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Re: Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:15 PM
 

He was not a defenseless player.


It's not supposed to matter if he leads w/ the helmet and there's helmet to helmet contact***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:17 PM
 



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Re: Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:17 PM
 

You post isn't defendable


Read the rules...***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:44 PM
 



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Anybody get a screen cap of the rule


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:48 PM
 

As they put in BRIEFLY on the screen?

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Re: Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:15 PM
 

He was not a defenseless player.


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Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:17 PM
 

Helmet to helmet contact is automatically targeting, Boulware got ejected in the every same situation his freshmen year against FSU.

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Defenseless is not a precondition for targeting.***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:18 PM
 



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Re: Defenseless is not a precondition for targeting.***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:24 PM
 

Notice that the SEC office was quick to cover up their incompetent officials. I swear there's no recourse for officials. They get a free pass. Meanwhile, the athletes are paying the price for the missed calls. There's no excuse for it.


Re: Defenseless is not a precondition for targeting.***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:29 PM
 

According to the replay both it is they just stated that.


Re: Defenseless is not a precondition for targeting.***

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Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:36 PM
 

He said if contact is initiated with the crown of the helmet it overrides the defenseless requirement. That was as clear as any helmet-to-helmet contact that I've ever seen. Minimally, it should have been reviewed.


I jumped when he got hit. Obvious one there


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:15 PM
 

Don't know what Targeting is supposed to be for anymore.

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Re: Really obvious targeting by Bama on that KO return tackle


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 
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Wow. Terrible no-call.


Based on what I saw,

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Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:16 PM
 

I obviously have no idea what targeting is.

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was that his mouth guard flying out or a piece of his helmet***


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:18 PM
 



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The Targeting Rule - Confusing! -Any Lawyers?


Posted: Oct 22, 2016 4:33 PM
 

Targeting and Making Forcible Contact
With the Crown of the Helmet
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an
opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there
be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question,
it is a foul. (Rule 9-6) (A.R. 9-1-3-I)
Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head
or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head
or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet,
forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at
least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is
a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for
purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making
a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of
targeting include but are not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an
upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in
the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with
forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both
feet are still on the ground
• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to
attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact
with the crown of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14):
• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to
receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has
not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball
carrier.
• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick
or the return.
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who
has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect
himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier..
• A player on the ground.
• A player obviously out of the play.
• A player who receives a blind-side block.
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose
forward progress has been stopped.
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession
FR-88 rule 9 / Conduct of Players and Others Subject to the Rules
• A ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding
feet-first.
PENALTY—[ARTICLE 3 and ARTICLE 4]—15 yards. For dead-ball
fouls, 15 yards from the succeeding spot. Automatic first
down for fouls by Team B if not in conflict with other
rules. For fouls in the first half: Disqualification for the
remainder of the game. (Rule 2-27-12) For fouls in the
second half: Disqualification for the remainder of the
game and the first half of the next game. If the foul occurs
in the second half of the last game of the season, players
with remaining eligibility shall serve the suspension during
the postseason or the first game of the following season.
The disqualification must be reviewed by Instant Replay
(Rule 12-3-5). [S38, S24 and S47]
When the Instant Replay Official reverses the
disqualification:
If the targeting foul is not in conjunction with another
personal foul by the same player, the 15-yard penalty for
targeting is not enforced. If the player commits another
personal foul in conjunction with the targeting foul, the
15-yard penalty for that personal foul is enforced according
to rule. (A. R. 9-1-4-VII-VIII)
For games in which Instant Replay is not used:
If a player is disqualified in the first half, at the option
of the conference or by pre-game mutual agreement of the
teams in inter-conference games, during the intermission
between halves the Referee will be provided a video of the
play in question for his review in the officials’ private secure
location. The Referee will review the video to determine
whether the disqualification is reversed. The decision of the
Referee is final. (A. R. 9-1-4-IX)
Note: The video source and the location of the review will
be determined prior to the game through mutual agreement
of the teams and the Referee.
If a player is disqualified in the second half, the
conference has the option to consult the national
coordinator of football officials who would then facilitate
a video review. Based on the review, if and only if the
national coordinator concludes that the player should
not have been disqualified, the conference may vacate
the suspension. If the national coordinator supports the
disqualification, the suspension for the next game will remain..

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