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Sitting outside the court room
Jul 23, 2015, 1:51 PM
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with the rest of the media, investigators and the Rogers family. No clue on how this is going to go. I would not be shocked if he gets off, simply because no one saw him do, there is no rock piece, etc. Wouldn't be surprised either if not guilty on Grand Larceny but guilty on malicious damage. Guess we will see.
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when did the jury begin delib?***
Jul 23, 2015, 1:52 PM
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Re: when did the jury begin delib?***
Jul 23, 2015, 1:56 PM
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About 12:20
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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thanks dhood. i'm glad i did not get glitched
Jul 23, 2015, 2:00 PM
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like that ##### gwp.
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I think the jury is having a hard time with value
Jul 23, 2015, 2:05 PM
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I think there is enough circumstantial evidence that he did it, but they are having trouble with the whole thing because of the questionable value. With that, does the punishment fit the crime in their minds?
They might think he is guilty of a crime, but not a crime that carries a prison term.
I think the longer they stay in there, then the better it is for Rogers. Hopefully, it was already decided to hang him and they just want to have a nice lunch before it's all over.
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if the prosecution did not show a interview clip
Jul 23, 2015, 2:18 PM
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to the jury of dozens, if not hundreds, of Clemson fans and players aged from 10 to 100 answering the question "What does The Rock symbolize to you?", then they are a bunch of incompetents.
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Re: if the prosecution did not show a interview clip
Jul 23, 2015, 3:33 PM
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> to the jury of dozens, if not hundreds, of Clemson
> fans and players aged from 10 to 100 answering the
> question "What does The Rock symbolize to you?", then
> they are a bunch of incompetents.
There's no way a judge would ever approve that
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There is one way.***
Jul 23, 2015, 3:56 PM
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Has anyone asked where the piece of rock is located?
Jul 23, 2015, 1:53 PM
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I supposed he won't say as it would be an admission of guilt. If he had any remorse he would say what happened to the piece. I hope he gets the maximum punishment due to his non cooperation.
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Sounds like UNC
Jul 23, 2015, 2:31 PM
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no admission of guilt
nobody saw 4000 people take fake classes
therefore, it didnt happen.
Great system we have in place
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It he is not convicted,
Jul 23, 2015, 1:55 PM
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look for others to try the same.
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At the end of the day.....
Jul 23, 2015, 2:11 PM
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even though no one saw him and there is no rock, based on eye witness testimony, it is entirely resonable to infer, deduce, or construe that Rogers was, in fact, the one who vandalized Howerd's Rock. Furthermore, the security camera didn't show anyone else in the area.
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right. So the sticking point is going to be value of the
Jul 23, 2015, 2:15 PM
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stolen property and damage of/to the property.
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I agree.
Jul 23, 2015, 2:49 PM
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There's no hard evidence though most here suspect he did it. I believe the defense guy is a genius to set up a reasonable doubt for the jury.
The other witness distanced himself from the crime while Rodgers remains silent. The stomach excuse will exonerate him in the minds of the jury for not taking the stand and denying his involvement.
The little prik walks.
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So having irritable bowl syndrome means he didn't do it
Jul 23, 2015, 3:15 PM
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Generally, if you haven't done anything wrong, there is no real need to be nervous when being questioned by police let alone feel like you're going to throw up.
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Oculus Spirit [93672]
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I'm not saying it's right but you'd have to admit...
Jul 23, 2015, 3:19 PM
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that thought crosses a reasonable person's mind.
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On the contrary.....
Jul 23, 2015, 3:27 PM
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I think any prudent person could very reasonably infer that Rogers is guilty which is why the attorneys try to select jurors who are imprudent and gullible.
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nope....
Jul 23, 2015, 4:00 PM
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a reasonable person would wonder why the h ell it was even brought up. Seems to me they are reaching for an excuse.
Sounds like to me a little spoiled brat has used the throwing up thing his entire life to get his way.
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If he does, he should probably have seen a doctor about it
Jul 23, 2015, 3:53 PM
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If not, must not be that serious
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no, but his condition should not lead one to his appearance
Jul 23, 2015, 4:04 PM
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of guilt because of it while meeting with the investigators. His attorney is trying to point out that the investigators zeroed in on his appearance of guilt because he was nervous enough to possibly vomit and did not adequately investigate all other leads to rule out other people/suspects and therefore since no one saw him or caught him with the rock chip, there is the possibility that another individual did it and not him. Reasonable doubt.
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Doubt maybe but certainly not reasonable doubt IMO....
Jul 23, 2015, 4:09 PM
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Per the security video, the kids truck was the only vehicle that stopped anywhere near the gate and the rock that night.
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who would be dumb enough to park their car anywhere near
Jul 23, 2015, 4:12 PM
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the crime scene?
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Re: Mom took the stand and said he had a history of stomach
Jul 23, 2015, 4:38 PM
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well la-de-da!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also have stomach issues but I never tried to use that as an excuse for destruction of property and theft!!LMAO.. that worthless PUNK will walk..
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Star witness credibility. He testifies...
Jul 23, 2015, 3:20 PM
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that he saw Rogers enter Death Valley, heard shattering sounds, and then relayed that Rogers boasted that he got what he wanted - a piece of the rock.
You would figure if the guy was lying, he would go all the way and say he saw the tools and rock as well.
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I too think it all boils down to .......
Jul 23, 2015, 3:29 PM
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how much credibility the jury gives the witness.
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If I was betting, I would say MI under $2,000....probation.***
Jul 23, 2015, 3:27 PM
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If found guilty on all charges, he won't get any jail time
Jul 23, 2015, 3:31 PM
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IMO.
He'll likely get a stiff fine, a lengthy probation, and he'll probably have to perform hundreds of hours of community service.
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Re: If found guilty on all charges, he won't get any jail time
Jul 23, 2015, 3:33 PM
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that worthless punk should get a minimum of 5 years!!if he returns the piece of the rock!!
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Probably not. I think the judge would give him a 2 year
Jul 23, 2015, 3:48 PM
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sentence with all of it suspended.
Basically means that he has a 2 year prison sentence on his record and if he messes up again, then he will have to serve this 2 year sentence.
So guilty with no jail time. No probation. This is actually worse than probation because there is no limit unless the judge puts a limit on the time when it could be enforced like "2 year suspended sentence for 10 years."
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Re: Probably not. I think the judge would give him a 2 year
Jul 23, 2015, 4:04 PM
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You cannot suspend a sentence and have it held over his head unless he is put on probation. If he were to violate his probation, then the amount of time over his head could be imposed
2years suspended and 5 years probation for MI
Walks on GL
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He'll get a longer suspended sentence if found guilty
Jul 23, 2015, 4:11 PM
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probably all 10 years suspended 2 years probation and a lot of money and a lot of community service maybe some weekend time too
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