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OC


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:46 PM
 

Do we need a new OC or do we need scrap the two co-oc system? Or, is everything good the way it is? What say you?

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Dude, please.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:48 PM
 

21-1. What more do you expect?

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A national title and an awesome offense. That's the hope.****


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:19 PM
 



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And the Heisman for Deshaun. I know I am asking a lot*******


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:19 PM
 



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I'd say you're an idiot....***

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Liability Cola by CU_Tigers_time is now trending on Tnet.


Bless your puny heart. You're so sensitive******


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:58 PM
 



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Our 2 OCs are 21-1 with the lone loss to Bama


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:48 PM
 

So I'm reluctant to change it.

With the talent we have, could we better? Hard to say.

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Actually 22-1 if you count OK bowl win in 2014.


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:55 PM
 

nm


Fair enough..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:00 PM
 

It seems they are absolutely amazing people and recruiters, but it seems like we aren't getting the max out of what we have. They are so many variables. It could just be the players just not getting it done. It could be the Oline. It is just a question. Personally, I don't like what I am seeing from our OC's. I am sure I am one of the many. That said, I am not sure why it isn't working.

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Re: Fair enough..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:07 PM
 

Would we be the first team to ever fire an offensive coordinator who had a 95% winning percentage over two season and coached the first QB to ever throw for 4000 and run for 1000 yards in a season? I swear some people on this board must huff paint between games.


Is that what is happening this year?


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:14 PM
 

Moreover, who said I wanted anyone fired? What are you huffing, bud?

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Re: Is that what is happening this year?


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:27 PM
 

You are going to try to back out of this because you didn't say the word "fired"???? Give me a break. You said "Do we need a new OC or do we need scrap the two co-oc system?" we all know exactly what you were saying. Coaches don't get demoted when things are going wrong they get fired, or forced to quit.

And considering we are at the max number of coaches if we got a new OC one would have to be fired.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:52 PM
 

I say "if it ain't broke don't fix it!"


Is it not broke? That is debatable.*****


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:02 PM
 



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Re: OC

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:53 PM
 

This a reasonable question. There is no need to call people names for asking a question. We're better than that guys. Sure we are 21-1 but you want to be proactive not reactive. We question players all the time and they are 21-1 too. I think the coordinaters will figure it out and improve but right now they are very predictable. Ask yourself this? Could they land another big OC job right now? Prob not. I'm glad we won but we need to get better in all areas of the game and that includes the COACHES


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:57 PM
 

Yes !


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Exactly..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:05 PM
 

I am as die hard as it gets. We have just raised our standards to extremely high levels. We aren't clicking and haven't all year. We may never have a better QB than Deshaun Watson. e all expected more, so it is a reasonable question. Why aren't we clicking? I don't know.

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Re: OC


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:10 PM
 

so if we dont turn the ball over 4 times and score 45 points easily in what would have been a rout over a good team would you idiots still be complaining against our coaches. some of the stuff you read in here is truly mind boggling.

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Take your panties out of your vajay..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:17 PM
 

So you think the O has been good this year? You're satisfied with the O this year? I love our team and our coaches, but just wondering why the O has be somewhat anemic this year and not living up to what we(I apparently)had hoped. The year is far from over though.

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Re: Take your panties out of your vajay..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:22 PM
 

if you look at the stats the o has been every bit as good as last year. the turnovers are unacceptable and naturally skew our opinions of how the o is performing. lets just hold on to the ball and surely everyone is happy.

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Fair enough and well said.


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:24 PM
 

I want to win it all and I am just waiting for us to explode on offense. Like the original question stated, everything may just be fine. Players have to make plays.

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:56 PM
 

We had almost 500 yards of offense yesterday. I don't think the OCs turned the ball over.

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Very true..


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:11 PM
 

That said, the O hasn't looked good all year. We will never have a QB like Watson again. Something isn't right? Is it the talent outside of Watson? Maybe it's that the fire isn't there? 500 yards is solid. East Carolina put 30 on NCSU. Heck, Old Dominion put 22 on regulation on NCSU. Aside from yesterday, the O hasn't looked good this year. JMO We are undefeated, but we just haven't looked good yet on O this season.

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Re: OC


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:56 PM
 

New OC won't stop the turnovers


True*****


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:12 PM
 



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The kids have to stop losing the #### ball. That simple.***


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Exactly, it could just be execution.******


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:02 PM
 



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The offense produced 500 yards ... TOs are the issue, period

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 6:59 PM
 

We have to take care of the ball.

If we do, everyone will once again be praising the efficiency and effectiveness of the Clemson offense.

If we don't practically every game will be a dog fight.

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True...also, maybe the OL just isn't as great as we thought


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:06 PM
 

it would be.

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Re: True...also, maybe the OL just isn't as great as we thought

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:12 PM
 

I'm not the OC making all the money and would never claim to know more than they do. Having said that I would like to have seen the JUMBO package on the Dye run. No one has stopped it yet...


I'm with you ... use it every crucial short yardage play.


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:30 PM
 

If I were to question any single offensive decision from yesterday (and other earlier games) it would be our reluctance to put Wilkins and Dexter out there on 4th and 1 each and every time.

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Re: OC


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:00 PM
 

It is the coordinaters Job to coach fundamentals and that includes turnovers. At the rate we are turning it over I'd say it's a trend and they are particularly to blame for that. Especially since they are the position coaches and get paid handsomely


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:01 PM
 

*partially to blame


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:05 PM
 

I would say this question can be answered after next year. After dashaun Watson is gone we will know the answer to this question


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:09 PM
 

Our OC have that record because of BV and Deshaun. I think they're average play callers with great talent when Watson leaves we will see.Just my 2cents though.


we had to punt TWICE yesterday


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:18 PM
 

all other drives ended with a score or turnover (and once on the 1yd line).

Drives of 50, 77, 5 (punt), 64, 75, 0(INT on 1st play), 38, 39, 77, 25 (penalty-infested/punt), and 25(OT).

THAT is unacceptable playcalling by the OCs?


CU 1st Fumble 6-50 1:51

CU 1st FIELD GOAL 13-77 4:25

CU 2nd Punt 3-5 1:25

CU 2nd Downs 12-64 4:31

CU 2nd TOUCHDOWN 10-75 1:53

CU 3rd Interception 1-0 0:09

CU 3rd Fumble 14-78 4:29

CU 3rd Fumble 5-39 1:49

CU 3rd TOUCHDOWN 10-77 3:46

CU 4th Punt 10-25 4:44

CU OT TOUCHDOWN 8-25 0:00

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Good points...


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:22 PM
 

That said, we just haven't looked good yet this season. We were supposed to have one of the best O's of all time. You're satisfied with our O this season in Watson's last year? Don't get me wrong, we may put up 50 on FSU and it will all seem like nonsense. Just so far we haven't been clicking all season. I am loving being undefeated. I just see some ###### in our armor.

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Re: Good points...


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:29 PM
 

The dual OC has worked but it sure helps having the best QB WRs and RB in the nation. Can you make a bad call?


Re: Good points...

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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:41 PM
 

LSU get top rated QBs and their WRs seem to get drafted and do well in the pros yet their offense is usually shit. So I'd say "yeah" bad calls can certainly be made and could be detrimental to talent.

Our offense is still ranked in the top 30, yes not as good as we hoped, but we also don't run it up on garbage teams like others do.


using the drive chart posted above


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:33 PM
 

without the blunders we would have conservatively scored 37 points......scoring on every drive but 2 all day.

CU 1st Fumble 6-50 1:51 (we were in FG range when Gallman fumbled: take a FG - 3)

CU 1st FIELD GOAL 13-77 4:25 (6)

CU 2nd Punt 3-5 1:25

CU 2nd Downs 12-64 4:31 (on the 1yd line, should have had TD: 13)

CU 2nd TOUCHDOWN 10-75 1:53 (20)

CU 3rd Interception 1-0 0:09

CU 3rd Fumble 14-78 4:29 (fumble on 1 going in for a TD: 27)

CU 3rd Fumble 5-39 1:49 (Williams fumbled on the 10, in FG range: 30)

CU 3rd TOUCHDOWN 10-77 3:46 (37)

CU 4th Punt 10-25 4:44 (without the stupid holding penalties, we WOULD have scored at least another FG - that makes 40 points)

CU OT TOUCHDOWN 8-25 0:00 (would not have happened)

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Re: using the drive chart posted above


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:42 PM
 

Remember when we were ready for Morris to move on because we never truly had a "smashmouth spread" offense.

We loved what our new OC's did.

They are still doing it. Our execution and mistakes are the difference.

Our offense from game 1 to the championship last year was vastly different.

We always go vanilla early and especially before a big time opponent.


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Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:27 PM
 

Dabo has turned this program into one that expects excellence. We expect it from our players, fans, and coaches. Our head coach is excellent, Brent is an absolute stud, abs our OC's are average to above average. They need to be better. And my hope is that they will be. If not, well you know what should happen


They escorted us to the final round of the playoff after...


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:40 PM
 

a perfect 14-0 season. So yeah, fire our OC and hire somebody with a proven lifetime success rate of what? Well let's see, they've won 21 and lost one so is it 21/1 for a 128% win ratio or 1/21=0.4 %. How about you doing the math for me since I'm really dumb and need accurate math skills to tell they are winners or losers.

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Re: They escorted us to the final round of the playoff after...


Posted: Oct 16, 2016 7:43 PM
 

Well you can't have a win rate over 100%. They have 22 wins (bowl against OU) and 1 loss. 22/23 = 95.6%


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