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New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:50 PM
 

 
Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville

Ninth-ranked Clemson got another strong effort from the defense and a missed field goal with 2:28 remaining loomed large as Clemson (3-0) defeated Louisville 20-17 Thursday night at Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium. Full Story »



Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:54 PM
 

Plus Horrible Kick coverage and Deshaun having an off night!


Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:58 PM
 

Never seen, much less been the victim of, such a hosing by officials as I saw tonight. Terrible! Just terrible!!! Still, hats off to the Tigers for not losing poise. I know it had to be tough to sit back and take it from them all night.

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Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:59 PM
 

I agree. Both calls on Lawson were big time Bull Sheet!
Reminds me of our game versus Tennessee in 1974.

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Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:15 AM
 



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Re: Don or Freddie.....I agree.....Go Tigers and Red Raiders!***


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 4:28 AM
 

Steve.
Don't know who you are as your Tigernet profile has no info on your ID. Freddy not on here, Don checks in here but not sure if he's a member or not.
And, GO Red Raiders & GO Tigers!

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Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 9:19 AM
 

Or how about the one they did not call? Obvious face mask against Watson late in the game.


Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:06 PM
 

I couldn't believe the refs. Louisville only had 2 penalties for 15 yards. No way a young, inexperienced team pulls that off.


Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:18 PM
 

Both calls against Shaq were horrible... even Jessie Palmer, certainly not a Clemson fan, said that the first one was "questionable at best" and the second one was "ridiculous." I agree that DeShaun didnt make the first down, but if you're going to review one thing about a play, review it all. What kept him from making the first down was the missed face mask penalty... which was, of course, not reviewable. Again, nice job ref!

The officiating overall kind of reminded me of our old friend, Ron Cherry... I will not say more!

Way to hang in there, Tigers. I hope DeShaun can get his mo-jo going before October 3... otherwise, it could be a long day!

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Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:22 PM
 

I am too lazy to do it but could someone please list all the missed calls tonight.

I rather win by an inch than lose on a bad call and have a ton of excuses any day


Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:07 AM
 

I was disappointed with the ref. tonight. I don't usually say anything about the bad breaks we get, I was upset with the missed face mask on Deshaun. You could see his head jerk around when he grabbed it. We don't need our QB take that kind of hits.

Deshaun seemed to be unemotional tonight. He made some bad throws. Usually he is quicker than he was tonight. Of course he is behind a young line. He seems to be a different player tonight. He has had so much hype I hope it isn't affecting his decisions on the field.


How many clear intentional grounding did they not call?


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 6:25 AM
 

Not to mention Louisville's facemasks, horse collars, and holding. Basically Louisville was allowed to do anything they wanted and if we got too close to the QB it was a penalty.


Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:53 PM
 

Vegas stood to loose a chit load of money. Moved the line to five. Lost all respect for cfb! Seen three no call obvious facemast pen. And Louisville not just held, but horse collared every play on the o line. Broken hearted. Love my tigers, but its obvious who runs cfb.:'(


Busch league for sure. Waisted one of UL's timeouts


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:21 AM
 

that was to be called after the play. No interference. I don't think they called holding but once and then the second roughing was a joke.

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Re: Worst One sided Officiating I've seen in a long time!


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 1:45 AM
 

And the MISSED FACEMAST on Watson that would have gave us a 1st down - caused us to punt giving them one more shot at scoring!!


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:57 PM
 

:)


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:57 PM
 

Great job Greg Heugel on the road! The refs should have called a facemask penalty on that last run but we SURVIVED!


I sure as H3LL hope they hold those refs accountable for


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 10:59 PM
 

all the costly errors they made!!! Those guys shouldn't be allowed to work another college game this year! Unbelievably poor/sloppy/incompetent work by those refs!!


Re: I sure as H3LL hope they hold those refs accountable for


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:05 PM
 

The funny thing is I'm sure Petrino kinda agrees

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Re: Now

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:05 PM
 

Thank goodness for the upcoming bye week. A tremendous amount to work on for the offense. Not just the players but for play calling also. I saw no fire in the belly on the offensive line. They are just not fearless. What is it going to take? Don't be scared.


I don't understand why the only shots we take down field are


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:10 PM
 

Hail Mary's with the wr and I mean Dion Cain, McCloud, Peake,and Scott....How are the unable to get open!
Tight ends played well. We are too obvious in our play calling...I don't get it! the runnign plays still take too long to developed


Didn't we score two TDs on down the middle throws?


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:27 PM
 

If they're nothing else, Louisville is a very stout defense. They have guys who can pressure the passer, and we saw it in action.

Watson was under duress pretty much every time he tried to wait for someone to come open long.

That's partly on our OL but mostly because of their DL.

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Re: Now


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:23 PM
 

Gallman was fearless though-he just keeps getting better and better!


Re: Now


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:57 PM
 

Hard for o-line ti play well with the cards stacked against them. Pardon the pon. Refs decided the spread tonight.


Can we please have professional refs in College Football....


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:12 PM
 

someday...........please. These jokers will be serving up Frosties at Wendys tomar at lunch.


Re: Can we please have professional refs in College Football....


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:40 PM
 

The refs were pros. No way amatures could have earned the pay these clowns earned the night. A ref has to practice and be incentivised properly to make such terrible calls against 1 team in only 1 game.

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Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:17 PM
 

Wow ! A sloppy win for the offense !High 5's for the defense they saved our Butts .Hope they special teams coach gets his act together for kick off coverage- it has been sorely lacking all season.Maybe Dabo needs take it over as he did in his 2nd year .


FTFY: "Sorely lacking for years"

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:24 PM
 

Pearman needs to go....


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:23 PM
 

We should have rolled Louisville tonight but we were absolutely crushed by our own play calling. I knew there would be some hiccups this year when it came to play calling with ScElliot, but wow, that was really pathetic for the vast majority of the game. On top of that, Watson has not looked like the same QB we saw last season. I think this is a combination of him reading his press clippings and our play calling.

We have a couple of weeks off, and thank god we do. We need to get our stuff together, because if we're going to have a shot at winning our conference--much less make the playoff--we're going to need to see a lot better effort from our team offensively.


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:28 PM
 

In fairness Louisville has an excellent defense and especially front seven which limits somewhat what plays can be called!


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:55 PM
 

We destroyed their front 7...Gallman ran for 140! The problem wasn't our ability to control the line...it was pass protection and perplexing play calls. Houston put up 34 on them at home, so there's no reason for us to put up 20.


I have said it before...

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:55 PM
 

It is hard having young coaches grow up on our watch. Example: OC's play calling was not very good. You don't have to get fancy or creative. Run what they give you until they can stop you, then change. Special teams is a huge concern. Any one can see from our first 2 games that our kick coverage is not good. Pearman, get it together or get gone. Coach V, the true veteran of the bunch, outstanding job! You continue to coach em up! Put in some work O line and get ready for ND! Go Tigers!


Re: I have said it before...


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:11 AM
 

I agree with 100% of what you say here. Venables looks like an absolute champ. Despite losing so many great players last season, our defense still looks like it may be a Top 10 defense in the nation, far better than I--and probably many others--were expecting to see even if we did expect to see good performance from our defense.

Offensively, we see what we can do. The frustration is born out of bad play calls. It's like going into the downtown of a city and seeing an architecturally beautiful building that hasn't been treated well. You know what it can be, but it's clearly not in that same state. It's not like we're in a horrible state but, man, we can do SO much better. We just need ScElliot to try and put things together for the next two weeks and hope for the best.


Re: I have said it before...


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 9:26 AM
 

I too thought they were ultra conservative with the game plan. This will not work against ND and Tech.


Re: I have said it before...


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 9:57 AM
 

remember the two long balls were both intercepted.Watson was obviously a little out of synch. It is called take what they give you. The Chad would have lost that game.


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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:30 PM
 

I think we all forget including myself that Watson played half a season of college football. We act like hes a 5th year senior. Louisville's season was on the line at their house on a Thursday night and we won. Play calling was conservative, and Watson was off at times. But we won on the road against a well coached desperate team! Kickoff coverage is terrible and that kept the cards in the game. This team is so young and inexperienced and sorely missing Mike Williams. Thank goodness for bye bc ND will be tough! Go Tigers!!


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:14 AM
 

You're right...Watson is still a young player. I guess we all expect him to play all the time like he did against SC. He also has missed a lot of time this spring as he recovered. We will still see him be great. I just wish the Heisman talk would be less, that puts more pressure on him.

Go Tigers...we are proud of the Tigers for getting this win, because it was a short week to get ready. Proud of the defense they was on the field a long time tonight and they hung in there.

Go Tigers...BE...believe and execute.


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:25 PM
 

Ok it wasn't pretty but it was a Thursday night game against a tough Cardinal team that is better than their record represents. Anybody that says the penalties were called evenly, they don't know a penalty from an interception. The face mask is a penalty, and a reffs is suppose to keep their eyes on the ball carrier. A clear face mask and no whistle. There were holding calls not called against the birds all night. The roughing the passer against Shaq was not a penalty. They called everything we did plus some. Mark it down, that was a tough rough road win with a Thursday night game on the shortest week I can remember us ever having. A lot of teaching on this tape, and I'm happy our young guys dodged a bullet while growing up. We don't see practice, so I guess our coaches should be OK with us talking how Vanilla the play calls were bc we have grown to expect better. And hopefully the Chad didn't take the good play book with him, and left his HS play book with us. One thing is for sure, ND didn't learn anything new about us that they didn't already know after this game, bc it shows even less than the App St and the Wofford games. One point is a win, so surely a 3 point win is a good win... Goooooo Tigerssss!!!

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Posted: Sep 17, 2015 11:30 PM
 

Any road win in the conference and Atlantic Division is a GREAT WIN!


Special teams


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:02 AM
 

Can someone who knows more about football than I do please tell me what we are doing on special teams? I sound like a broken record. Do we not know how to block so we can have a freaking return after a punt or a kickoff?

Either
A: try to block the punt, or
B: block and set up the return

We do neither!!! And it's been like this for YEARS. It just blows my mind. Same thing on kickoffs. Same. Freaking. Thing.

Other teams seem to have no problems getting off blocks and making tackles. How is this possible? Can someone please explain this to me? Or is the answer, DANNY PEARMAN?


Re: Special teams


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 10:01 AM
 

The thing is all about hang time on a punt. When a punter has enough hang time that the gunners can get down the fielf -there is no return. Kick it long and high. That stops the return game.


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:04 AM
 

Call me crazy but I really think Dabo and the other coaches are trying to push this offensive line and the running backs to make plays, I think they are trying to hold something back, we will see how things go against ND... And one more thing I said this before I'm not judging a player off of five games not saying deshaun isn't able I just wouldn't give him very high expectations seeing as how he hasn't played a whole season

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Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville

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Posted: Sep 18, 2015 12:08 AM
 

Tough, intelligent win against a talented and desperate Louisville team at their place:) You gotta feel pretty good about the direction this team is headed considering the Tiger "D" held Lousville to 10 points on offense, and the offense moved the ball against a stout defense...The new kicker got some good confidence building work in a tense hostile environment...The cardinal kick-returners are dangerous, but I dont think they touched him on the return for a TD...Clemson was in control and starting to pull away before the kick-return for td...Clemson really played some solid ball except for the kickoff return and a play here n there:)... Virginia Tech wouldve blocked that last punt lol


Re: New Story: Escape and Survive: Tigers dodge bullet at Louisville


Posted: Sep 18, 2015 9:28 AM
 

The refs sucked. Kick-off coverage sucked. Except for 2 plays play calling was average. Just take the 10 yards they gave us on the outside EVERY time. Defense was great. Gallman was great. I will take a road win on Thursday night any time. Crowd was deathly quiet most of the game. I miss Williams. When do we get our good kicker back?

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