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Re: Here come the death panels
Sep 17, 2014, 2:58 PM
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110%er [7980]
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FHRITP***
Sep 17, 2014, 3:00 PM
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Good.***
Sep 17, 2014, 3:04 PM
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Agree.***
Sep 17, 2014, 4:42 PM
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Re: Here come the death panels
Sep 17, 2014, 3:06 PM
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the real death panels were board rooms full of insurance executives deciding who to deny life saving cancer treatments in such that they could maintain profits and preserve their 8 figure bonuses, all under the guise of pre-existing conditions and improperly filled out insurance applications.
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"Not consistent with what the patients want"
Sep 17, 2014, 3:08 PM
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I don't care if you can't remember your name and wear diapers, you're going to live until we tell you you can die!
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Heisman Winner [119713]
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xtiger, its amazing how much the lunge libbies know
Sep 17, 2014, 5:26 PM
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about stuff they don't know anything about...
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Re: xtiger, its amazing how much the lunge libbies know
Sep 17, 2014, 5:34 PM
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Good one!***
Sep 17, 2014, 5:54 PM
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Still waiting for your reply to the actual article***
Sep 17, 2014, 5:54 PM
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I'll get back to you after I read it...check back
Sep 17, 2014, 6:41 PM
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Next week
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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It's amazing how much you learn
Sep 17, 2014, 6:45 PM
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when you actually read the article.
Did I do that right?
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Heisman Winner [119713]
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Uh read 2 spots down***
Sep 17, 2014, 6:56 PM
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Ok, here is a simpler question so you don't have to read
Sep 17, 2014, 6:04 PM
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Should aggressive medical procedures to prolong life be used on people who don't want them. Are you saying doctors or, gasp, the government, needs to tell someone how they should die?
The article basically says that the current system is set up to keep the patient alive as long as possible despite the persons actual wishes. Essentially we spend a bunch of money keeping terminal patients who wish to die alive. The article, says that instead, we should focus on the patients wishes and quality of life. This includes sitting down and creating a plan for late life care. This plan includes things like: if X happens to you, what do you want us to do for you.
Putting the power in the patients hands and not in the doctors hands seems reasonable.
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Heisman Winner [119713]
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Uhhhh...my OP had nothing to do with the article
Sep 17, 2014, 6:46 PM
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It was about how quickly the liberals in the lunge respond to a conservative....so quickly I would wonder if the response was knowledgable or just vitriol..
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Funny thing
Sep 17, 2014, 6:52 PM
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I've actually read the report cited in article for my Health Policy Management class. So I guess I was quick to respond because I knew exactly what the post was talking about, and I knew that it was being misrepresented. The fact that the original quote is actually attributed to a Republican(that fact was conveniently omitted), should tell you all you need to know. If you actually want to understand the issue, and not just the buzz words like "death panel" you should read the report from the non-partisan group of experts that came up with the report.
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Not really interested in the issue actually
Sep 17, 2014, 6:58 PM
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My wine is more interesting right now...
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Awesome
Sep 17, 2014, 7:20 PM
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Just in to kick around a few libbies and blindly support your boy X-Tiger.
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And to amuse the bartender filling my wine glass....***
Sep 17, 2014, 7:22 PM
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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You drink wine at a bar?
Sep 17, 2014, 7:38 PM
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Sounds kind of libbie to me. You sure you're not a closeted libbie?
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Heisman Winner [119713]
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I drink wine with Italian food
Sep 17, 2014, 8:10 PM
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didnt say what kinda bar ....
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Re: I drink wine with Italian food
Sep 18, 2014, 10:47 AM
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we all figured an italian ghey bar.
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Did you actually read the article...I'm thinking no
Sep 17, 2014, 5:36 PM
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Here is a quote:
“The bottom line is the health care system is poorly designed to meet the needs of patients near the end of life,” said David M. Walker, a Republican and a former United States comptroller general, who was a co-chairman of the panel. “The current system is geared towards doing more, more, more, and that system by definition is not necessarily consistent with what patients want, and is also more costly.”
Stupid libbie Republican recommending death panels.
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Another quote
Sep 17, 2014, 5:38 PM
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"It called for a “major reorientation and restructuring of Medicare, Medicaid and other health care delivery programs” and the elimination of “perverse financial incentives” that encourage expensive hospital procedures when growing numbers of very sick and very old patients want low-tech services like home health care and pain management."
Is following the wants of patient considered a death panel?
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Heisman Winner [111614]
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Just don't read the articles
Sep 17, 2014, 5:46 PM
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Whatever you do, don't read what you post.
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