Re: FSU is going to attempt to extort money from the ACC by

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You folks kill me. You have zero logic and critical thinking

May 9, 2012, 8:40 PM [ in reply to Perhaps from places like these: ]

ability. When a journalist or media outlet reports something negative about Clemson, or positive about other schools, they get labeled idiots. Yet when they report something negative about other schools or positive about Clemson, they are hailed as geniuses. You folks want your cake and eat it too. You are such irrational hypocrites.

Here are numbers that tell the real story ....
http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2012/3/20/2880533/financial-comparison-acc-athletic-department-budgets-10-11

Regarding FSU, they are NOT hurting for money. They do not have a true shortfall. They simply have lower expected short term future revenues, which will lead to an adjusted budget. That is not a shortfall. This is typical media sensationalism!!

Here are some facts! FSU fields the same number of teams as Clemson, yet their budget is almost $20 million more than Clemson's AD budget. If they need to budget $2.4 million less next year they will sill be outspending every school in the ACC. If that sounds like a problem then by god I wish Clemson had that problem!! Not only that, but many schools in the ACC field more teams than FSU & CU. So FSU has the most money and field less teams. Ergo, they are far outspending every other school in the ACC in total dollars and dollars per team. Again, I can only wish Clemson had their budget problems.

This academic year all 19 FSU teams participated in post season play. They were the only NCAA team to accomplish this. Again, we can only wish we had their budget problems!

If I am planning to go to lunch and want to eat somewhere pricey, but look in my wallet and see I only have $10 dollars, I don't think "OMG I have a budget shortfall". No, I think, ok, I need to adjust my lunch expectations. Then I go eat a $9 dollar lunch and have a $1 post lunch surplus. Not a shortfall.

A shortfall is when I go to the expensive restaurant and get a $20 dollar bill and find only $10 dollars in my wallet. THAT is a shortfall!!

You people are on here acting like FSU has money issues and that is patently false. Proven false by the facts!!

Regarding all the stupid comments like "crickets", pardon me, I don't live on TNET like most of you. I have a life. I will always support my position, but I'm not going to respond to every moronic comment nor do it instantly.

So flame away, but the reality is, even with $3 million less next year FSU will still far outspend every other ACC school in real dollars and dollars/team fielded. They do not have a true budget shortfall, nor financial issues. And their overall AD is the most successful in the ACC.

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and process information. Nowhere did I say FSU was lying or using phony numbers. I said the story is nothing but sensationalism. And clearly FSU is trying to scare people into thinking they need more money so folks will buy tickets and donate more. They are manipulating the situation.

Here is the reality. FSU has the largest AD budget in the ACC, yet is in the lower half in terms of teams fielded. Thus, not only are they spending more money than everyone else, but they aren't having to spread that money as far.

They may be $2.4 million dollars short, but it's not a "shortfall" because they are not operating in the red. They aren't short for the past year, they are coming up short for what they wanted to spend next year.

Even if you take that $2.4 million out of their budget for next year they are still going to spend at least $10 million more than the next biggest AD in the conference, with fewer sports. If THAT is a money problem, please, give me that kind of problem!!

Calling that a "shortfall" is as dishonest as when liberals/Democrats claim the Republicans are cutting programs, when not one penny is cut. In fact, more money is being spent next year than this year. Why? Because it's NOT a real cut in the budget, it's a cut in the increase of the budget year over year. If you spend $10 this weekend, and want to spend $20 next weekend, but mom says no, you can spend $15, your budget was not cut, it simply grew by 50% instead of 100%.

And again, even if FSU has a slightly smaller budget next year, they are still spending far more money than everyone else and spending it on fewer sports. Ergo, this is all a big deal over nothing. It's sensationalism.

Last year Clemson's AD brought in $61 million and spent approx. $60.8 million. FSU brought in $78 million and spent the same amount. Clemson & FSU field the same number of teams. So, which AD would you like to have? The one that had $61 million and a handful of teams in postseason play, or the one with $78 million and had all 19 teams play in the postseason? The answer is obvious!!

There is no financial crisis at FSU. That's pure nonsense.

FSU is going to attempt to extort money from the ACC by

This is a dangerous game, if that is what they're doing.

FSU leaves, wanders the woods for 30 years ala USC

VT says hi.

If UNC were to win big in football,

UNC couldn't win big....

Here's the problem with that:

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I wish more people on here thought things through like you.*

I hate to say it, but the line between the ACC & SEC

Really?

Re: Here's the problem with that:

Re: This is a dangerous game, if that is what they're doing.

ACC was left standing at the station

LOL! You honestly think they're looking for a bigger cut

yep I do. Watch them make a play for it.***

Sorry, but that's absurd.***

Re: Sorry, but that's absurd.***

The ACC is certainly in a slump, but certainly

Re: The ACC is certainly in a slump, but certainly

Well, with all of the changes occurring, it does appear

Re: Sorry, but that's absurd.***

Where are some of you getting the idea FSU has money

Re: Where are some of you getting the idea FSU has money

you are going to confuse him with facts***

Re: Where are some of you getting the idea FSU has money

Perhaps from places like these:

Re: Perhaps from places like these:

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You folks kill me. You have zero logic and critical thinking

Re: You folks kill me. You have zero logic and critical thinking

Re: You folks kill me. You have zero logic and critical thinking

They properly source their data. The info IS factual and

So we should believe the numbers for your website...

see perfect example of an inability to read comprehend

What excuses are you talking about, Faddy?