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Orange Blooded [3456]
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Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 17, 2012, 11:41 AM
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We wore them instead of orange to better contrast with LSU's white jersey's on black and white TV. We had a birthday party yesterday for my father who passed away July 4 this year. Snapped this pic of his jersey hanging in his pool room. The name tag is from a bowl reunion they had a while back, and he had Coach Howard autograph his. I have never seen another Sugar Blues jersey and don't imagine many, if any, are still in existence. Several years ago the Orange and White ran the only known color photo of us on the sidelines pregame and darned if old 79 wasn't the first number you noticed. I got them to send me a negative and had a large print made and framed for his birthday one year. When he lost a leg last year after multiple (13) surgeries, he had this one made:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/clemson86/Woody_sitting.jpg A Clemson man 'til the end.
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Awesome, thanks for sharing.***
Dec 17, 2012, 11:44 AM
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Re: Awesome, thanks for sharing.***
Dec 17, 2012, 3:11 PM
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YES, THANKS!!
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey? Thanks for sharing
Dec 17, 2012, 11:46 AM
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this and the story. I remember in the 70's CU sold off some old Russell jersyes from Howards last years. I got a home and a road one. I've never seen the Blue ones from about 10 years earlier except in pictures. I hope one day the museum planned for the west zone will have lots of interesting things like this
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey? Thanks for sharing
Dec 18, 2012, 8:52 AM
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The second time we wore them was my freshman year 1962 against USC. The picture looks faded. They were a bright navy blue with orange sholder stripes. the numbers were actually silver.
BTW we won that game on a Rodney Rogers field goal in the 4th quarter. Starting QB was Joe Anderson from Greenwood.
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Many Thanks!!! Great Pics!! Remember that season well....
Dec 17, 2012, 11:48 AM
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although young and have heard many, many stories about the staff and players on that team.
Different times and a different place, those of us who grew up with that Clemson will never forget it.
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pretty cool. i have 2 of them, and have only seen 3 ever.***
Dec 17, 2012, 11:52 AM
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one of mine...pic
Dec 17, 2012, 11:53 AM
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Where did you get yours?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:20 PM
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I'm assuming you're a little young to have played in the '59 SB.
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an old timer clemson man....knew i'd take care of it.***
Dec 17, 2012, 1:15 PM
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where is 58 in the picture, love your picture
Dec 17, 2012, 1:26 PM
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my dad and granddad went to the Sugar Bowl that year.
both said for years later that Clemson should have won that game
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Orange Blooded [3456]
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I see a couple of covered up 50's
Dec 17, 2012, 1:32 PM
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Not sure which is 58.
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Re: one of mine...pic
Dec 17, 2012, 3:13 PM
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MO, who is # 58??? was his name Thomas??
#87 was Ray Masneri(sp?)good friend was one of his friends
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Thanks for sharing!***
Dec 17, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:13 PM
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My Dad , Jack "Buffalo" Smith was number 71 on that team. He still has his jersey as well.
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Awesome. Is he in the pic?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:19 PM
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A couple of the 70's have there second digit hidden by a head.
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Re: Awesome. Is he in the pic?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:23 PM
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> A couple of the 70's have there second digit hidden
> by a head.
I am having a hard time telling for sure, but I believe that he is the 2nd row from back, and 3rd from the left.
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Cool, thanks for sharing! *****
Dec 17, 2012, 12:21 PM
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Excellent. Txs.*****
Dec 17, 2012, 12:26 PM
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Sugar Blues jersey
Dec 17, 2012, 12:33 PM
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Wow!!!
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Fantastic!!! Thanks!
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Great photo ... great memories. Only 47 players on the team?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Trying to recall if that was the era of two platoon or one platoon ... with only 47 varsity players, some of them would have had to have played on both sides of the ball for sure.
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Re: Great photo ... great memories. Only 47 players on the team?
Dec 17, 2012, 12:58 PM
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Those jerseys helped spawn the infamous Coot prank during a Big Thursday matchup where rumors had it we were going to wear the Sugar Bowl uniforms for the game then a coot frat using a local HS uniform similar to those came out impersonating the Clemson team. Set off a big brawl with CU students who were not amused, including one of the Mahaffey brothers who was caught on camera beating some coot ####. One of my father's favorite college stories.
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Thanks for sharing:
Dec 17, 2012, 1:03 PM
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I remember New Year's Day, 1959. My dad and I left my Grandmother's lunch early so we could get back home to watch the game, in black and white of course. Always loved hearing about those Sugar Bowl Blues. Thanks for sharing memories of your dad.
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Re: Thanks for sharing:
Dec 17, 2012, 1:15 PM
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My dad tells the story that the plan was to wear Orange jersey's, but at the last minute, the TV guys said that there would not be enough contrast between the white and orange jersey's on the B/W TVs. Howard sent someone to the local sporting goods store and bought the only color they had enough of for the game. (now the story has grown some over the years, as well as how big a role dad played in the game 
But they are all great stories!
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Yea I was one sick 11 yr old. A bad snap & a HB pass did us
Dec 17, 2012, 2:22 PM
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in and broke my heart.
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My second year at Clemson
Dec 17, 2012, 2:30 PM
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I wandered down the hall of my dorm and started chatting with a guy about how he ended up at Clemson. We both realized our fathers had played on the '59 SB team. I asked him his last name. He told me and I said, "Oh your dad..." and before I could say "played tailback" he cut me off and said, "I know, I know. Dropped two touchdown passes." That guy was www.linkedin.com/pub/greg-usry/18/254/389.
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Good old "Pogo" Usry ...***
Dec 17, 2012, 3:16 PM
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Re: My second year at Clemson
Dec 17, 2012, 3:17 PM
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I think Paul Snyder snapped a punt snap and hit the up back, and Billy Cannon tossed a HB pass to beat us. May have beat George "Pogo" Ushery (sp). I could be dead wrong as I was crying so hard my memory may have been clouded.
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That game is probably a 0-0 tie otherwise ... we had played
Dec 17, 2012, 3:25 PM
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the mighty LSU Tigers even up the entire game to that point. I've got the game on DVD and watched again not long back. I'd forgotten just how conservative we were on offense in those days. Even with QBs like Harvey White and Lowndes Shingler, we very seldom passed the ball in that game.
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and had a good receiver in Gary Barnes.
Dec 17, 2012, 3:38 PM
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Maybe not Sammy or Nuk good, nut still good....lol'
By the way was the center on the ount snap Snyder of Thomas?
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Re: and had a good receiver in Gary Barnes.
Dec 17, 2012, 4:11 PM
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I was thinking it was Snyder, but I was only 6 aat the time. Gary Barnes was a good'un. Caught the very first TD pass for the Atlanta Falcons franchise.
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Think it was Snyder. Dan's had picture of him throwing
Dec 17, 2012, 4:34 PM
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the javelin
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Re: That game is probably a 0-0 tie otherwise ... we had played
Dec 18, 2012, 8:58 AM
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Frank Howard on the pass - three things can happen and two of them are bad. Always had a big stud fullback that was as big or bigger than the tackles. On short yardage it was fullback right or left and most of the time got it.
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I remember that.....Thanks!***
Dec 17, 2012, 1:23 PM
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If possible I would love for you to post a picture of them
Dec 17, 2012, 1:30 PM
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on the sidelines from the Orange and White
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It's hanging in my bar at my lake house
Dec 17, 2012, 1:52 PM
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Next time I'm up there I'll bring it home, scan it and post it. In the meantime, here's a microscopic closeup of the slide I used to make the prints. Can't make out much, but I do think you can see the Country Gentleman and mascot at midfield.
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love IT, can't wait until you have a chance to post
Dec 17, 2012, 2:01 PM
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it on here.
the days when the bowls could pick who they wanted, it seemed so much better then, now ESPN seems to pick who they want in the bowls
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I'm wondering if that is Howard standing behind the team
Dec 17, 2012, 2:03 PM
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by himself near the bench.
It sorta looks like him with his hat on.
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I think Coach Howard is in front of the team
Dec 17, 2012, 2:10 PM
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In the big picture you can see his profile and hat.
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That's awesome!
Dec 17, 2012, 1:36 PM
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BTW we met outside The Roach before the 63-17 game. We traded tix. We might need to do that again!
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I actually missed that game
Dec 17, 2012, 1:43 PM
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I was on a cruise. Had to get on Tigernet to get the score. Wore my hat the next day so people would ask if I knew who won. When I would say USC 17...Clemson 63, I got the same response from everybody, "You're sh*tting me!"
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Maybe it was the 13-9 game.
Dec 17, 2012, 2:06 PM
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Anyway what ever game it was we won! We met just before the game and traded tix. Maybe I'm mistaken though - wouldn't be the first time.
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That was the one
Dec 17, 2012, 2:09 PM
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You wanted lower corner and I got your midfield upper deck tix.
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 17, 2012, 2:33 PM
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Huge thanks for sharing! My uncle, Doug Cline, is number 37 in the photo. I would love to have a copy of the pic. I've managed to collect much of his NFL memorabilia but his Clemson items remain elusive. Any info would be appreciated.
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Check your tmail***
Dec 17, 2012, 2:46 PM
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Will get on it.***
Dec 17, 2012, 2:50 PM
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Re: Didn't he have a brother who played somewhere like ECU?***
Dec 17, 2012, 8:01 PM
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Yes, great memory. My Uncle Bill played at ECU in the mid-60's. He actually their first All-American as a WR. Happy to say he's alive and well living in NC.
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When I lived in Houston as a kid, My dad would take me to
Dec 17, 2012, 4:45 PM
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watch Houston Oilers play.
Cline and Ray Matthews I think played for Houston. I know Cline did and can't remember for sure if it was Matthews.
Love those AFL games.
Watched Denver one night, they dressed in Brown and Yellow with strips on their socks that ran up and down the leg instead of around them. Not a nice looking uniform.
I still wonder at times about the New York Titans, what were the colors they wore back in those day. I thinnk it was Red and White. I think they were the 1st team I saw dress in one solid color but it was on TV and back then the TV was black and white.
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Re: When I lived in Houston as a kid, My dad would take me to
Dec 17, 2012, 8:04 PM
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Good stuff. Yep, Doug played in Houston from '60-'67 and then with San Diego for one season before retiring. He was converted from a Fullback to LB after his first season in Houston.
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Wow! That brings back memories ..
Dec 17, 2012, 3:02 PM
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Clemson played the # 1 LSU team led by Billy Cannon. Coach Paul Dietzel had his defense called "The Chinese Bandits." They beat Clemson in the Sugar Bowl 7-0. Clemson's George Ussery came close to scoring but didn't make it. Have you considered donating that Jersey to the CU Athletic Museum?
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Was actually thinking about the donation topic yesterday
Dec 17, 2012, 3:05 PM
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It would be my mom's call, but it would thrill my dad to no end. Of course, Motown says he has two so maybe he ought to come off of one of them.
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Derwood
Dec 17, 2012, 4:38 PM
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Roomed next to Derwood on D-6 in the tin cans. Spent many good times in Greenville with him and Pete. So sorry to here of his passing, he was one of a kind.
ps. Coach Howard, in a joking manner, call him "Dum-Dum" , he had great fun teasing him.
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Glad to hear from you
Dec 17, 2012, 4:43 PM
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I do know about dum dum, which I think he probably earned with his first semester of four D's and an F after some older players convinced him he could play poker all night and skip class because he was a football player.
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Re: Glad to hear from you
Dec 17, 2012, 4:56 PM
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That was "Der".
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 17, 2012, 8:55 PM
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It's been a long time since I've seen one of those. Thanks for sharing!
Those jerseys are close to the heart of any Clemson old-timer like me. They are more a part of Clemson football lore and mystique than any of today's youngsters could ever imagine.
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Let's break out the throwbacks for one our games next yr!
Dec 17, 2012, 8:58 PM
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Nm
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That's a mighty fine leg
Dec 18, 2012, 9:49 AM
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Thanks for sharing. Sorry about your father's passing.
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Nice!***
Dec 18, 2012, 9:52 AM
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Wow..this was 1958 Team..while 59 played in Bluebonnet bowl
Dec 18, 2012, 10:02 AM
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I remember the Clemson Boys played #1 LSU to a 7-0 game in 1959 Sugar Bowl..with their feared "Chinese Bandit" specialty team that invented gang tackling (they say), but who wondered who was hitting them back.
We lost a fumble at the goal-line I think..while they scored on a trick half-back run & stop with toss into the End zone by famed A-A Billy Cannon...who later became a dentist..and later to jail for cheating.
LSU knew who #10 Clemson was after that jarring game..and the Tigers came back a year later to play in the 1st Bluebonnet Bowl versus TCU and A-A Bob Lilly..who starred later with Dallas Cowboys for umpteen years.
GoTiGERs..Stand Up & FIGHT Boys...and beat LSU &SEC!
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here are the stats for the game, Clemson lead in most all
Dec 18, 2012, 2:30 PM
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of them
but from reading the writeup it looks like LSU blew several chances to score in the 1st half, even though they got only 1 first down.
seems strange according the write up but it also seems like Clemson was lucky not to be down by several TDs.
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Re: Ever seen a 1959 Sugar Blues jersey?
Dec 18, 2012, 5:24 PM
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They wore them for a home game VS UVA in the 60's for the same reason, better contrast on TV. Loved them and still remember them vividly.
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