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All-TigerNet [14921]
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People keep posting Dabo's record vs. top 25 as
Dec 9, 2013, 4:17 PM
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an argument for why he shouldn't be at Clemson and I started thinking that the law of averages pretty much dictates that most good coaches' records are inevitably going to hover around .500 vs. the top 25. So I compared some widely-considered good coaches' records since '11 (the first year we won 10 or more) (this is records vs. teams that finished ranked, not necessarily were ranked at the time):
Nick Saban (inarguably the gold standard): 9-3 (.75)
David Shaw: 9-3 (.75) (of course, beating RANKED teams is not his problem...)
Steve Spurrier: 8-4 (.66)
Les Miles: 8-6 (.57)
Jimbo Fisher: 4-3 (.57)
Mark Helfrich (1 season): 1-1 (.50)
Dabo: 5-6 (.45)
Chris Peterson: 1-2 (.33)
Mark Richt: 4-9 (.31)
Will Muschamp (IMO not a great coach but he was on our shortlist when TB left): 3-10 (.23)
Gary Patterson: 2-7 (.22)
Mack Brown: 2-8 (.20)
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Geez. Half of SOS's Top 25 victories are against us.
Dec 9, 2013, 4:21 PM
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Nice list though.
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I've said it before and I will say it again...
Dec 9, 2013, 4:25 PM
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beating Clemson regularly is the pinnacle of success for Spurrier at $CU.
No conference championships and no BCS Bowl appearances.
Spurrier has effectively become a reincarnate of Tommy Bowden.
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If tommy or even DABO for that matter was going 10-2 AND....
Dec 9, 2013, 4:27 PM
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beating our rivals I'd have ZERO problem with that
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CU Medallion [64591]
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Tommy absolutely OWNED the Capons...
Dec 9, 2013, 4:37 PM
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but didn't achieve much else.
Sounds very similar to Spurrier at $CU.
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I've said previously, we've been on the other side of
Dec 9, 2013, 4:40 PM
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a BCS bowl with a Coot win (essentially where they are now) and this may be preferable.
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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only spurrier is now winning 10 games combined with.........
Dec 9, 2013, 4:41 PM
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beating their rivals
AGAIN
I'd take that every year and give up any ACC championships to do so.
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Yeah right, you know the second we don't win the ACC
Dec 9, 2013, 4:43 PM
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you'd be on here complaining about how we've got TB back...
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I've said it for YEARS give me 10-2 AND beat SCar.......
Dec 9, 2013, 4:48 PM
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it's that simple
think what you want, but i'm one of the few that haven't "adjusted the goal posts" based on what dabo has or has not done..........it's stayed consistent and he's YET to do that.
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I'm the same way. Dabo's 10 win seasons are good, but
Dec 9, 2013, 5:01 PM
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crapping the bed on the big stage so often and being owned by the coots is too much for me to swallow.
We lost to two good teams. But the fact our head coach is obviously intellectually outmatched by the coot coach is hard to accept.
But, at the end of the day, we are too good to talk about firing Dabo.
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haha ok....i guess we'll never find out will we.?***
Dec 9, 2013, 4:51 PM
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quite simply...
Dec 9, 2013, 7:34 PM
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you HAVE to do both !!!!!
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No, Spurrier has more success overall there, and he
Dec 9, 2013, 4:57 PM
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pulled off a 5-game winning streak of double digit wins over us.
But there are similarities as you suggest.
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what's their records vs their rivals???***
Dec 9, 2013, 4:22 PM
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Re: Link
Dec 9, 2013, 4:30 PM
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%#}} you. That wasn't my point, moron.
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Good analysis but rerun the numbers based on all
Dec 9, 2013, 4:25 PM
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Those coaches first few years on the job. Dabo in his 5th season as a coach is being compared to a lot more tenured coaches here in most cases. For never having a head coach position, he's doing one heck of a job
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Those are almost Dabo's career numbers.
Dec 9, 2013, 4:29 PM
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Either way you look at it he's doing a helll of a good job.
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why are you starting in 2011? Dabo took over in 09.
Dec 9, 2013, 6:13 PM
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Start from there. It all counts.
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Most of these coaches are established so i believe the last
Dec 9, 2013, 6:21 PM
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3 years is good. Even Alabama went 7-6 in Saban's first year..
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Re: People keep posting Dabo's record vs. top 25 as***
Dec 9, 2013, 6:22 PM
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Dabo is 2-3 bowls, 1-5 against ball sack*******
Dec 9, 2013, 6:24 PM
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Suffered worst bowl loss ever******
Dec 9, 2013, 6:26 PM
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And worst home loss ever*******
Dec 9, 2013, 6:26 PM
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