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Rock Defender [53]
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Still don't understand why poor folks vote GOP
Aug 23, 2018, 2:35 PM
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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/403157-mississippi-to-test-limits-of-medicaid-work-requirements
The five-year waiver request from Republican Gov. Phil Bryant seeks to require non-disabled adults to participate in at least 20 hours per week of “workforce training.”
To be eligible, Medicaid beneficiaries must work, be self-employed, volunteer or be in a drug treatment program, among other approved activities. If people don’t comply, they’ll lose their Medicaid coverage.
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Mississippi made changes to attempt to solve a major problem related to its strict Medicaid eligibility requirements. In order to be covered, a single parent has to earn less than $3,300 a year. For a family of three, it’s less than $6,000 a year.
If those individuals are required to work, they’ll likely earn too much to qualify for Medicaid, even though the jobs likely won’t offer insurance. It’s a Catch-22 that the administration is keenly aware of.
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tl;dr You have to work 20 hrs/week to be eligible for Medicaid, but working 20 hrs/week makes you ineligible for Medicaid.
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All-In [47799]
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and I don't understand why anyone who has a job and pays tax
Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 PM
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votes for Democrats
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Rock Defender [53]
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Better bumper stickers.***
Aug 23, 2018, 2:39 PM
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CU Guru [1405]
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lol***
Aug 23, 2018, 2:52 PM
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Heisman Winner [111625]
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Re: lol***
Aug 23, 2018, 3:05 PM
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well alex, if we did not have agencies that force auto manufacturers to test their cars, they wouldn't and we would have to wait until one explodes on the highway to figure out which models not to buy. But at least people would stop buying the cars that explode and cars would not explode until a new model that explodes is released, thus the invisible hand at work. It is a wonderful situation that requires NO government.
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All-In [47799]
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so, exploding cars, thats the best case for taxes
Aug 23, 2018, 3:10 PM
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I'll walk if I don't have to pay taxes
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Heisman Winner [111625]
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Re: so, exploding cars, thats the best case for taxes
Aug 23, 2018, 3:11 PM
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as long as you do not worry about your car exploding, you will be fine
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All-In [47799]
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my car is made in the EU so I'll outsource my
Aug 23, 2018, 6:49 PM
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safety to them the way they outsource their defense to us 
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Re: so, exploding cars, thats the best case for taxes
Aug 23, 2018, 3:33 PM
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Clean air & water, food safety, police, fire & other emergency services, roads, education, healthcare & a social safety net, etc all seem like things worth paying taxes for... not to mention national defense and publicly funded scientific research. You guys realize immigration and border control costs money, too?
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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Well we certainly wouldn't want exploding cars.***
Aug 23, 2018, 3:37 PM
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Heisman Winner [137976]
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I think you're right. People should be able to opt out of
Aug 23, 2018, 4:02 PM
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federal and state taxes altogether. They'd simply not be allowed to use the things those taxes pay for. I'm sure you're good with driving your probably-not-exploding Jag up and down your driveway. Don't go out on that public road in front of your house though!
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Re: so, exploding cars, thats the best case for taxes
Aug 23, 2018, 4:05 PM
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You harp on the one part where I'm clearly being hyperbolic because you can't argue your point. Typical.
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Lot o points [155944]
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Don’t post that...
Aug 23, 2018, 4:38 PM
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It’s Top Secret.....
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I just liked it better than the plain pinto pics
Aug 23, 2018, 4:51 PM
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But Val Kilmer was really an underrated member of that generation of actors.
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Re: so, exploding cars, thats the best case for taxes
Aug 23, 2018, 7:59 PM
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I'll walk if I don't have to pay taxes
Then surely we can agree that the fact that it is illegal for Medicare to negotiate pharmaceutical prices is crazy wrong?
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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exploding cars.
Aug 23, 2018, 3:24 PM
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This may be my new favorite catch phrase for big gubmint.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Everything would basically be on fire without government
Aug 23, 2018, 4:24 PM
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Didn't you know?
BMW rejects any class A body panels if there's so much as a scratch on the inside of it, where nobody will ever see. I'm sure without government they wouldn't have those sort of standards.
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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We'd still be living in caves or huts with thatch roofs
Aug 23, 2018, 4:26 PM
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that were glued together with our spit.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Fires would ravage communities uncontrolled because they had
Aug 23, 2018, 4:29 PM
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no way to band together and figure out a solution for such mishaps. In fact, I bet we wouldn't even know how to put out fires. Criminals gangs roaming the streets, people other than the EPA polluting our water ways, the list goes on. If only the federal government was a little bit bigger, had a little bit more oversight, and a little bit more funding could we achieve Utopia.
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Re: Fires would ravage communities uncontrolled because they had
Aug 23, 2018, 5:51 PM
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by your logic we will just allow people to band together, just not call it government when they do because that is a dirty word.
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Lot o points [155944]
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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and why wouldn't wouldn't it? Big companies don't care who
Aug 23, 2018, 4:32 PM
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they hurt..they just want to sell their cayenne pepper-BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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Re: Everything would basically be on fire without government
Aug 23, 2018, 4:42 PM
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You mean the BMW founded in Germany, land of relatively high tax rates and copious regulations? You think that might have an influence on their corporate culture?
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I think German culture certainly influences it, but high
Aug 23, 2018, 4:50 PM
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taxes and regulations have nothing to do with their desire to build a quality automobile. Do you realize how much money goes into a production vehicle? It's not in their best interests to manufacturer shiddy, exploding cars, and they don't need the government involved to make them aware of that.
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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You'd think they'd frown on manufacturing in places like
Aug 23, 2018, 4:58 PM
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Mexico, where there basically is no regulations aside from having to have armed guards at their facilities.
It's amazing to me some people have this mindset about government. Particularly a tax payer. It's got to be Stockholm syndrome or something.
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Because...
Aug 23, 2018, 2:51 PM
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1. GOP pretends they're the party of Jesus.
2. GOP pretends they're the party of family values.
3. GOP pretends they're going to outlaw abortion.
4. GOP pretends the Democrats will force socialism/communism down their throats.
Well, GOP pretends a lot of things to trick them into voting. Like how Dems trick the ones on their side that they're really concerned with their equality and giving em stuff.
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I'm no GOP fan, but you best believe #4 is a reality
Aug 23, 2018, 4:41 PM
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It won't stop at healthcare. It's like the little charade democrats used to play back in 2008-2010 or so with the "We're not advocating for single payer!!!", now they're all like yeah, that's what we wanted all along duh. Moving goal posts and what not.
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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Coupling this with...
Aug 23, 2018, 3:49 PM
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the fact that illegals are keeping the wage of the unskilled worker low due to the supply of unskilled workers in this country I wonder how they can afford a trip to the polls to vote for either party.
The poor and lower middle-class always get screwed.
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Globalization, automation, low min wage, and loss of unions
Aug 23, 2018, 4:01 PM
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as well as the reintroduction of unemployed workers after the great recession have more to do with low wages than illegals.
Or, at the least, the issue of low wages is a bit more complicated than just pinning the blame on illegals (and even then, shouldn't the blame be on the businesses that hire the illegals and not the illegals themselves?)
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Rock Defender [53]
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The blame shifts from democrats to business owners depending
Aug 23, 2018, 4:02 PM
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on which thread you're posting in.
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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What's wrong with telling the whole truth...
Aug 23, 2018, 5:09 PM
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instead of spinning it to the benefit of a useless political rant?
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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Maybe, but globalization, loss of unions and...
Aug 23, 2018, 5:07 PM
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automation are something we probably can't remedy.
You tell a poor man his job is due to the list you've provided then explain the economic theory of supply and demand of labor and wage rates and see which one he cries the loudest about.
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Oculus Spirit [81076]
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I can just tell you next year when mine ends due
Aug 23, 2018, 5:10 PM
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to being offshored
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Legend [18026]
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but I'm not sure you've made your point about illegals
Aug 23, 2018, 5:44 PM
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falling into the labor/wage argument as much more of that segment is due to just the abundance of under-educated Americans that are out of a job due to globalization, automation and loss of unions than it is illegal immigrants taking those jobs. That hasn't stopped the Republicans from selling that message and I guess it's working as you've proven.
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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I recognized the illegal and wage issue many decades ago.
Aug 23, 2018, 5:53 PM
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Carter was the first POTUS I voted for and the last democrat but I may vote for dems in Nov. I'd like to see a good healthy impeachment again before I die.
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neat***
Aug 23, 2018, 6:46 PM
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All-In [47750]
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Just because they are poor doesn't mean they aren't smart.
Aug 23, 2018, 4:33 PM
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The ones that vote for the GOP candidates know liberalism and socialism just don't work.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Maybe they're just masochists?***
Aug 23, 2018, 4:36 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93673]
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Maybe they are taking the lesser of two evils...
Aug 23, 2018, 5:54 PM
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just like the rest of us.
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Re: Still don't understand why poor folks vote GOP
Aug 23, 2018, 7:00 PM
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